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NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
March 10 2011 06:38 GMT
#781
Come to think about it nightfall really did make Gvgs a lot worse. The new halls for Nightfall encouraged turtling and just pushing out every 1:30 seconds to push for the flag (and sometimes not even then.) Then came the changes to sudden death and goodbye for gvgs in particular. The high point of gvgs I think was right before nightfall once people finally figured out assassin (wow that took a while to figure out the A/W E/Rt split I loved the mechanics behind that build until they nerfed the hell out of every boost the assassin can use from the warrior and buffed the NPCs and made bases designed so NPCs do maximum damage no more jungle isle where no NPCs can hit any other that was my favorite map of all time when it was first released (before they moved the bodyguard). In general A-Net wanted more upfront battles but ended up getting a turtlefest since no team actually needed to move out.
irninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1220 Posts
March 10 2011 07:49 GMT
#782
Did a little pvping last night for old times sake, all I found was nukers at Jade quarry, no strategy, no fun, just run in an suicide, over and over.

www.teamlegacy.net | MMO junkies
Circos
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom115 Posts
March 11 2011 01:08 GMT
#783
On March 10 2011 02:41 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 00:14 Circos wrote:
On March 09 2011 09:01 AkaHenchway wrote:
LOLBUILDWARS....also why are they changing the way gvg was, thats what made this game great.


What has changed with GvG exactly? That's what GW worth playing for all these years.


It was worth playing for until they changed that the guild lord no longer moved to the center. It was always the most exiting moment when the NPCs moved out and you had to heal them, your guildmates and the guild lord at the same time. Lots of stress, lots of fun... somehow the game got boring when they changed that.

I really hope GvGs in GW2 will be as fun as they were in GW (pre-nightfall), though with 5v5... don't know, i doubt it will be as much fun.


Well, I certainly agree that VoD was amazing and made the game far more dynamic than it is now, but that doesn't take away from the concept of GvG entirely. VoD was waaaayyy too easy to abuse with ultra-defensive EU builds, vD and rawr abused the shit out of it, to the point where it was just impossible to win. Do you not remember just before VoD was taken out where everybody just turtled until 26? It was ridiculously dull, but hey, people wanted to win games and that was the best way to do it. Plus, it didn't take skill to play like that either, the game was too one-dimensional.

But with the skill-set system, aswell as there being no moink any longer, I expect VoD to return in some form, and don't forget, the game in general is far more flexible than it ever was in GW1, you can now swim and jump, that adds an entirely new dimension to the gameplay. I'm anticipating very fast and split orientated plays with a ton of skilled plays. GvG will only get better, they've learnt from their mistakes I'm sure. Also, EvIL, rawr and alot of top Fin' players are helping balance the PvP aspects of the game.

Have hope!
I saw the angel within the marble, and I carved until it was free.
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
March 11 2011 02:02 GMT
#784
On March 10 2011 16:49 irninja wrote:
Did a little pvping last night for old times sake, all I found was nukers at Jade quarry, no strategy, no fun, just run in an suicide, over and over.



Jade Quarry isn't really PvP, there's literally no point in engaging enemy players since they respawn in 6 seconds.
irninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1220 Posts
March 11 2011 04:45 GMT
#785
On March 11 2011 11:02 DarthXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 16:49 irninja wrote:
Did a little pvping last night for old times sake, all I found was nukers at Jade quarry, no strategy, no fun, just run in an suicide, over and over.



Jade Quarry isn't really PvP, there's literally no point in engaging enemy players since they respawn in 6 seconds.


Very true. But since I havent played in almost a year, that = no guild which also = no serious pvp. Its either randoms or JQ.

Anyway I got bored within minutes and decided to play Dragon Age 2 some more


*raises glass* heres to GW2 coming sooner than expected.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 11 2011 12:52 GMT
#786
On March 11 2011 10:08 Circos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 02:41 Morfildur wrote:
On March 10 2011 00:14 Circos wrote:
On March 09 2011 09:01 AkaHenchway wrote:
LOLBUILDWARS....also why are they changing the way gvg was, thats what made this game great.


What has changed with GvG exactly? That's what GW worth playing for all these years.


It was worth playing for until they changed that the guild lord no longer moved to the center. It was always the most exiting moment when the NPCs moved out and you had to heal them, your guildmates and the guild lord at the same time. Lots of stress, lots of fun... somehow the game got boring when they changed that.

I really hope GvGs in GW2 will be as fun as they were in GW (pre-nightfall), though with 5v5... don't know, i doubt it will be as much fun.


Well, I certainly agree that VoD was amazing and made the game far more dynamic than it is now, but that doesn't take away from the concept of GvG entirely. VoD was waaaayyy too easy to abuse with ultra-defensive EU builds, vD and rawr abused the shit out of it, to the point where it was just impossible to win. Do you not remember just before VoD was taken out where everybody just turtled until 26? It was ridiculously dull, but hey, people wanted to win games and that was the best way to do it. Plus, it didn't take skill to play like that either, the game was too one-dimensional.


Didn't vD just roll a 5-3 split? That's different from rawr-level turtle-ing.

The current tiebreaker can be abused in pretty much the same way, but instead of waiting for the ultimate battle of NPCs, you run in and do a damage-race on the Guildlord.

Did you observe when tiebreaker was new?
Just a month or so after the update, it already became a Turtlefest-Into-Lordrace. Or a single-splitting fire-ele doing lorddamage the whole game while the team turtles. Excitement!

I quit GW around that time, so I dunno if it's still played that way.

And don't talk about how it needs no skill. That never ends well. You're on a SC forum, don't you know that by now?!?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
miniwheats
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada187 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 14:16:04
March 11 2011 13:03 GMT
#787
edit*adding main page: http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/professions/thief/
Thief Video
"Don't disturb my Circles!" -Archimedes
Zootre
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark180 Posts
March 11 2011 14:01 GMT
#788
that video easily makes thief the coolest proffession yet :D but i have high hopes for a caster. think mesmer still is missing or am i wrong ?
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
March 11 2011 14:10 GMT
#789
I'll roll an Elementalist, for sure Thief looks great though!
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
miniwheats
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada187 Posts
March 11 2011 14:12 GMT
#790
Ah, page is up now. Go here instead
http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/professions/thief/
"Don't disturb my Circles!" -Archimedes
freestalker
Profile Joined March 2010
469 Posts
March 11 2011 14:36 GMT
#791
I want mesmer and thief <3 that's all I ask for
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 22:37:30
March 11 2011 22:35 GMT
#792
found this thief footage on justin TV from PAX...

http://es-es.justin.tv/alienwarearena/b/281335903

the game will be awesome!

PD: LOVE the charr guardian playing along the thief!! the skills are SO awesome.
irninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1220 Posts
March 13 2011 00:15 GMT
#793
http://www.guildwars2live.com/

Great non-stop stream there showing all of the latest from PAX.
www.teamlegacy.net | MMO junkies
Circos
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom115 Posts
March 13 2011 01:51 GMT
#794
And don't talk about how it needs no skill. That never ends well. You're on a SC forum, don't you know that by now?!?


The fuck? I shall mention skill all I want to, thank you.

I saw the angel within the marble, and I carved until it was free.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
March 13 2011 02:04 GMT
#795
Thief looks amazing, I can't wait
Effay
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States153 Posts
March 13 2011 02:10 GMT
#796
I don't like MMO's much (I've yet to play one I liked) but this game looks real interesting. I dunno if I'll do PvE but the PvP sounds fun since it puts everyone on a level playing field equipment, level, and spell wise. The combat in this game looks interesting too, since positioning and timing will matter (provided they aren't lying about how deep their system is) as opposed to combat in other MMOs which i found to be a snorefest of people standing around and swinging swords at each other.
Obsession: The weak minded's name for dedication
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 13:10:45
March 13 2011 13:01 GMT
#797
heres some talk about events and approaching to quests theyre making.

GDC Vault - Designing GW2

irninja , that stream is pure gold :D TY!
Lori_ftw
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany286 Posts
March 13 2011 13:36 GMT
#798
OMG! There isn't even a beta out yet! Stop the Hype and wait for a beta to try it out. Most likely Guild Wars 2 will be like Failhammer/Age of Failiure.
möp
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
March 13 2011 13:39 GMT
#799
On March 13 2011 22:36 Lori_ftw wrote:
OMG! There isn't even a beta out yet! Stop the Hype and wait for a beta to try it out. Most likely Guild Wars 2 will be like Failhammer/Age of Failiure.


You should not be entering a GW2 thread to read this if you do not want hype , im sorry but... hell this is a GW2 guild thread honestly , what do you expect?

just dont enter threads if the theme is not appealing to your interest.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
March 13 2011 13:53 GMT
#800
On March 13 2011 22:36 Lori_ftw wrote:
OMG! There isn't even a beta out yet! Stop the Hype and wait for a beta to try it out. Most likely Guild Wars 2 will be like Failhammer/Age of Failiure.

why would you post in this thread just to say this? Not hyped for gw2, then fuck off. This thread is for people that are and want to discuss it.
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