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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8553 Posts
February 03 2015 20:49 GMT
#7041
On February 04 2015 05:45 Manijak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 00:37 Miragee wrote:
I'm still 100 % sure that they should have created another fuly instanced game. It has soooo many upsides and almost no downsides. Besides, there are no games beside GW that do fully instanced third person cooperative online RPG. And they are even eagerly trying to kill off the remaining playerbase of GW. It's so dumb I don't know what to say anymore.

True, I miss GW1 style too. The big downside however, is that unpopular parts of the world map will have close to zero population and that can be very annoying for missions/quests...


That's a downside but also an upside at the same time. I like how some places are deserted and your are alone in these outposts or maybe you will meet another stranger. For quests in these areas you can use henchies and for difficult quests you would always find people in main towns/forums etc.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
February 04 2015 15:09 GMT
#7042
i still find myself occasionally playing gw1. i have 2 accounts with 50/50 and 2 gwamms. i pretty much quit gw2 after one week of its release... maybe the expansion will be promising who knows? it's nothing like gw1. its just a wow rmk in gw world
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9563 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-29 19:43:13
August 29 2015 18:17 GMT
#7043
Game just went Free to play. With the expansion on the horizon to be released on October 23rd, you can as of today download and play the base Guild Wars 2 for free. Of course, there are some restrictions put on these accounts like a smaller character slot limit and World vs World being accessible only after lv 60.

https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/95982157-Account-types-Free-Core-HoT
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 29 2015 22:15 GMT
#7044
Yay I can check out the game now.
Writer
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 30 2015 00:14 GMT
#7045
Its a great game, no reason not to try it out if you havent.
Useless wet fish.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 10:12:21
August 30 2015 10:09 GMT
#7046
I played a bit recently. It's truly a great game indeed, highly recommend it. I still don't know why I haven't sunk much time on it, but I have no doubt it would be worth it :D.

Edit: I was probably disappointed that for all its qualities, GW2 didn't approach GW1's magic for me. Like many here, I think they should have taken many more elements from GW1 over to GW2 than they did.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 30 2015 10:14 GMT
#7047
I never got into it because they completely butchered the skill system and GvG, which were two things that I thought made Guild Wars great. But maybe I'll play some PvE here and there when I'm bored.
Writer
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 30 2015 10:29 GMT
#7048
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but honestly i feel the expansion is incredibly lackluster. It feels so light on content and feels as though that outside of the one raid they'll slowly be rolling out you'll probably be done with what there is to do minus grinding for legendaries in a week.
Granted you could argue that they'll be rolling out more raids and more content with the living world, but honestly after season 1 and 2 of living world i don't really trust living world to bring a lot of fun content(Not at an even remotely decent pace anyway) since i felt that like 90% of the living world stuff was boring as fuck or felt completely pointless in season 1+2.

Atm i think i'll just not buy the expansion unless it goes on sale down the line.

Also fuck the fact that the veteran's bonus is only unlocked from pre-purchasing.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 10:59:18
August 30 2015 10:59 GMT
#7049
What's the veteran bonus btw? I just saw the one extra character slot. Is that it?
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 11:08:09
August 30 2015 11:03 GMT
#7050
I dunno, to me it feels like theres plenty of content coming thats in line with the GW2 way of doing things.

In terms of repeatable content you've got:
-Raids (Keep in mind these havent even existed in gw2 until now and the games done fine.)
-Challenges
-Guild halls
-New WvW zone(s)
-New & improved sPvP (GvG, new maps, better leaderboards)
+More i likely dont know about. Like dungeons..havent heard anything about those although there MUST be new ones. Theres obviously a ton of new gear (legendaries, costumes) to grind for too but that's hardly repeatable content.

On top of that you've got at least 4 new maps at launch, one new class, loads of new class "specializations" which mean loads of new skills and builds, new mechanics like gliders and shit and a lengthy storyline to tie it all together.

When you couple that with Arenanets great content patches that are both large & often i think its a pretty solid expansion.

I'll be buying it even without all this because over the last 3 years Anet has provided SO much content gradually and all they asked for was the base price and the content that came with that was well worth it anyway.
Useless wet fish.
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 12:22:19
August 30 2015 12:20 GMT
#7051
GW2 is a great mmo but it could have been amazing if they kept the skill system from gw1. There is almost no skill customization in gw2 because 5 of your skills are predetermined by your weapon, then 1 is elite and 1 is healing skill which leaves you with only 3 fully customizable skill slots.

In gw1 you had 8 skill slots to customize. There were hundreds of skills and a big part of the fun was going around the world map and unlocking them by defeating different bosses etc, and then making your own builds. GW2 is great but why couldn't they use the amazing skill system from the original game which was one of its strongest aspects.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 30 2015 12:23 GMT
#7052
On August 30 2015 21:20 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
GW2 is a great mmo but it could have been amazing if they kept the skill system from gw1. There is almost no skill customization in gw2 because 5 of your skills are predetermined by your weapon, then 1 is elite and 1 is healing skill which leaves you with only 3 fully customizable skill slots.

In gw1 you had 8 skill slots to customize. There were hundreds of skills and a big part of the fun was going around the world map and unlocking them by defeating different bosses etc, and then making your own builds. GW2 is great but why couldn't they use the amazing skill system from the original game which was one of its strongest aspects.

That's exactly the thing I miss the most.
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
August 30 2015 13:18 GMT
#7053
On August 30 2015 21:23 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 21:20 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
GW2 is a great mmo but it could have been amazing if they kept the skill system from gw1. There is almost no skill customization in gw2 because 5 of your skills are predetermined by your weapon, then 1 is elite and 1 is healing skill which leaves you with only 3 fully customizable skill slots.

In gw1 you had 8 skill slots to customize. There were hundreds of skills and a big part of the fun was going around the world map and unlocking them by defeating different bosses etc, and then making your own builds. GW2 is great but why couldn't they use the amazing skill system from the original game which was one of its strongest aspects.

That's exactly the thing I miss the most.

Me too. I miss just trawling around RA or TA with random janky stuff. The skill/build system was really great.
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
August 30 2015 13:41 GMT
#7054
Totally agree that the skill system in GW1 was really interesting. I remember having a friend who would try all the FotM builds and trying to skill my dervish in a way that could beat it. It was always possible to counter any build with any class if you thought about it enough which I always thought was cool.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 30 2015 13:51 GMT
#7055
I tried this game now that it's free. The game itself looks pretty good, although I would prefer the hard tab-selection system from GW1.

Also, playing Mesmer with a sword is WEIRD.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 30 2015 22:55 GMT
#7056
I love how people are still falling for the "gw2 has no content" meme
It was pretty funny 3 years ago but it's a little old.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-31 13:56:35
August 31 2015 13:55 GMT
#7057
its not really a F2P move because they didn't add in a bunch of microtransaction mechanics that were not in the game previously. i think this is a great and ballsy move by ArenaNet/NCSoft.

as more and more games have substantial free content any time an MMO moves to F2P is desperation it will be making that desperate move to a well served audience that spends exactly $0.

so 2 substantial NCSoft properties are removing an initial barrier to entry.. WildStar and Guild War 2.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 31 2015 14:31 GMT
#7058
On August 31 2015 22:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its not really a F2P move because they didn't add in a bunch of microtransaction mechanics that were not in the game previously. i think this is a great and ballsy move by ArenaNet/NCSoft.

as more and more games have substantial free content any time an MMO moves to F2P is desperation it will be making that desperate move to a well served audience that spends exactly $0.

so 2 substantial NCSoft properties are removing an initial barrier to entry.. WildStar and Guild War 2.


Usually going F2P is an indication that the game desperately lack players. It's not a good sign.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6956 Posts
September 03 2015 12:20 GMT
#7059
On August 31 2015 23:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 22:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its not really a F2P move because they didn't add in a bunch of microtransaction mechanics that were not in the game previously. i think this is a great and ballsy move by ArenaNet/NCSoft.

as more and more games have substantial free content any time an MMO moves to F2P is desperation it will be making that desperate move to a well served audience that spends exactly $0.

so 2 substantial NCSoft properties are removing an initial barrier to entry.. WildStar and Guild War 2.


Usually going F2P is an indication that the game desperately lack players. It's not a good sign.


That is mostly the case, so more in monthly sub games, which these 2 are not(ish)
In GW 2 i guess it's to hook new players that then buy the expansion and in WS you could always grind out your monthly fee in game.

Since we are discussing this anyway, i'd like to ask which of these has the "better" PvP cause i'm really bored right now and need a game ^^
Or maybe even something else? what do you guys play?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 03 2015 18:33 GMT
#7060
On August 31 2015 23:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 22:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its not really a F2P move because they didn't add in a bunch of microtransaction mechanics that were not in the game previously. i think this is a great and ballsy move by ArenaNet/NCSoft.

as more and more games have substantial free content any time an MMO moves to F2P is desperation it will be making that desperate move to a well served audience that spends exactly $0.

so 2 substantial NCSoft properties are removing an initial barrier to entry.. WildStar and Guild War 2.


Usually going F2P is an indication that the game desperately lack players. It's not a good sign.


Yeah but this is not the same really, because they're using the F2P as a way to allow players to discover the game with hope that they buy the expansion.
GW2 is doing really well in its niche on the MMO market, I never understood why people always looked at it like it was dying ever since it launched.
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