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NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
August 25 2012 14:02 GMT
#4521
On August 25 2012 22:49 happyft wrote:
So one of my friends is going absolutely ballistic over this game, and he also told me over 100 million ppl are playing the pre-launch. I hate MMO's but I'm really curious as to what all the fuss and hype over this game is about.

Could anyone tell me in a few concise bullet points what makes this game so great?

100m ? really ?

+ Good looking MMO
+ Lore / Story
+ Big open world that you can explore with your friends (Adventure waiting for you)
+ I heard it got good sPvP (U dont need to play 8h a day to get gear. U get instant lvl80 and same gear in PvP)

MMOs are all about community. Think about it as a game where you meet and work with new ppl so you can safe the world from big ass dragons.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 25 2012 14:03 GMT
#4522
On August 25 2012 22:58 noD wrote:
Considering how even the website is slow I wouldnt be surprised if it really is a ddos ...


Could be a number of things out of their hands. I doubt it would be ddos, though I don't doubt someone tried.
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Tom Cruise
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 14:05:54
August 25 2012 14:05 GMT
#4523
On August 25 2012 22:58 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 22:56 Tom Cruise wrote:
On August 25 2012 22:51 Kurr wrote:
On August 25 2012 22:46 Tom Cruise wrote:
On August 25 2012 22:39 Kurr wrote:
On August 25 2012 22:38 daemir wrote:
On August 25 2012 22:34 Zhou wrote:
On August 25 2012 22:25 Skwid1g wrote:
On August 25 2012 22:16 Tom Cruise wrote:
On August 25 2012 22:15 Kurr wrote:
[quote]

I'm starting to get pissed off as well. 2h30 of the game not letting me log on approx now.

And this IS launch. It's a 3 day headstart because of pre-purchase, but it's still a launch. We are pretty much their guinea pigs for their servers it seems, which I don't consider a nice reward for pre-purchasing.


i assume this is your first launch of an mmo.


Arguments like this always hurt my head, just because other companies fuck up doesn't mean it's okay or right. I'm not bashing ArenaNet, but compensation would be nice and I don't see any reason NOT to do it from a business standpoint, and it just seems like the right thing to do.


The point is that the headstart wasn't something you paid extra for. The other point is no matter how well prepared you are to release your game that has a major amount of popularity, it will find a way to screw your plans over. Maybe they will, maybe they won't but the other thing is that they have these people working around the clock so people like you can play the game in the first place. Just consider what these people are doing in their own time dealing with a bunch of comments like this as they try to bring up something they've worked on for years to the same people who are giving them crap for it.


Welcome to sales of any product ever in the history of man? Salesman gets shit if the product don't work. Lol, surprising isn't it?


Exactly. Not asking anything special at all; just the servers working.


you dont understand. nobody in the year of 2012 possesses the technology to make this work.


If that was the case, they could never fix the issue and the servers would never work. Your statement makes no sense. They misjudged how many people would be trying to enter the servers at once and the activity it would cause, which is why it's not working. Not because of a lack of technology.

As with every games, they also know that the first week will have a huge wave of people and that the number of users will decrease afterwards so it's probably a bad investment for them to acquire too many servers as well, which is probably the issue here as they tried to cut it too close.


with all due respect, do a bit of research on google the next 30 minutes, it'll spare us a long and boring discussion that ultimately will prove that you are wrong, because this really isnt as easy as you want to think it is. we're talking about a highly professional company experienced in this shit, if they knew exactly what to do they would've made precise preparations and thus prevent the issue from occuring. furthermore, this happens for every launch of an mmo, you'd think SOMEONE by now would think of doing a bit of extra preparation, no? well guess what, as i said before, it's impossible.


Your argument consists solely of : "You are wrong, I am right. I know so because other companies have had issues in the past as well."

To be honest I'm done discussing this with you, as it's going in a circle. Fact of the matter is that they fucked up, plain and simple.


are you excluding my arguments on purpose? i dont care if you're "done discussing" with me, i'm only telling you what anyone has been trying to tell you. fact of the matter is that you're just another ignorant customer who thinks he knows it all. i'm sorry.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 25 2012 14:06 GMT
#4524
Tom, you're a funny white knight, but do show me the bit where anet tells me I can't expect service today.

And yea, even if I've been to several mmo launches and they all fucked up and now anet repeats it, doesn't mean I can't be disppointed each time. This isn't a tech issue, it's purely a money issue, google up a bit and save us crusade for anet a bit ^_^

oh well, MLG is on, time to check some matches and leave Tom to his crusade here.
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
August 25 2012 14:08 GMT
#4525
Yeah, big let-down that even the most reliable companies fail about such matters these days.
On August 25 2012 22:49 happyft wrote:
So one of my friends is going absolutely ballistic over this game, and he also told me over 100 million ppl are playing the pre-launch. I hate MMO's but I'm really curious as to what all the fuss and hype over this game is about.

Could anyone tell me in a few concise bullet points what makes this game so great?

Its predecessor was a leading PvP MMORPG. Far less rage experienced than in SC2/D3/Aion etc. GW2 supports dynamic events. No subscription, no free to play / pay to win (not yet at least). Diverse classes. Relatively much freedom in the world. It's even possible to dodge projectiles. Lots of cooperative and competitive tasks. Runs fast, looks decent. Arenat.net is renown for not treating their customers like crap, usually.
Tom Cruise
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 14:12:14
August 25 2012 14:10 GMT
#4526
On August 25 2012 23:06 daemir wrote:
Tom, you're a funny white knight, but do show me the bit where anet tells me I can't expect service today.

And yea, even if I've been to several mmo launches and they all fucked up and now anet repeats it, doesn't mean I can't be disppointed each time. This isn't a tech issue, it's purely a money issue, google up a bit and save us crusade for anet a bit ^_^

oh well, MLG is on, time to check some matches and leave Tom to his crusade here.


i guess explaining how things work around here makes me a white knight. in that case, i'm honored. but with all due respect, look it up yourself, i couldnt care less what you choose to believe despite what i'm telling you, although you can confirm it in a matter of minutes by simply google what i tell you rather than sitting on your ass saying "no, no, that's not true, herp derp" oh, and, crusade, really? did i piss you off or do you just spontaneously feel stepped on, on the internet?

And yea, even if I've been to several mmo launches and they all fucked up and now anet repeats it, doesn't mean I can't be disppointed each time.


yes it does, it's common sense.
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
August 25 2012 14:12 GMT
#4527
Theres way too much arguing in this thread, everyone needs to be mellllooooowwwwwwwww
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
August 25 2012 14:13 GMT
#4528
On August 25 2012 23:12 Valenius wrote:
Theres way too much arguing in this thread, everyone needs to be mellllooooowwwwwwwww


You're right I'm done. I added him to my ignore list and it's over.


Now then, I assume another 3-4 hours before we can play so I guess I'll go watch something else. I've been trying to get into soccer recently and I have a Barcelona vs Real Madrid match from a few days ago so I guess I'll watch that while waiting for MLG.
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Callynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands917 Posts
August 25 2012 14:13 GMT
#4529
I don't think there has been any highly anticipated launch that didn't cause me to wait several hours at login screens. Though now, even getting to the login screen isn't possible (connection error).

I don't blame them, even if they did 10 stress tests - no affordable technology in the world can support this many logins without crashing. They could have bought 10x more login servers, but those would be worthless after the first week, because logins normalize after that because the hype is over.
Comparing BW with SCII is like comparing a beautiful three-master sailing ship with a modern battlecruiser. Both are beautiful in their own way, both perform the same task, but they are worlds apart in how they are built and how they are steered.
Tom Cruise
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark482 Posts
August 25 2012 14:14 GMT
#4530
On August 25 2012 23:12 Valenius wrote:
Theres way too much arguing in this thread, everyone needs to be mellllooooowwwwwwwww


ya i'm sorry, i'm done trying to teach these sheep how this works, lol. they may believe whatever they want.

User was temp banned for this post.
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
August 25 2012 14:20 GMT
#4531
On August 25 2012 23:13 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 23:12 Valenius wrote:
Theres way too much arguing in this thread, everyone needs to be mellllooooowwwwwwwww


You're right I'm done. I added him to my ignore list and it's over.


Now then, I assume another 3-4 hours before we can play so I guess I'll go watch something else. I've been trying to get into soccer recently and I have a Barcelona vs Real Madrid match from a few days ago so I guess I'll watch that while waiting for MLG.


It was a good game, stick with it
XllX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany23 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 14:24:07
August 25 2012 14:22 GMT
#4532
Servers up again it seems. (Europe)
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
August 25 2012 14:23 GMT
#4533
On August 25 2012 22:55 bittman wrote:
Dot point wise...there are a lot of good videos which cover them. This was the one that got me originally interested:


On August 25 2012 23:02 NIIINO wrote:
+ Good looking MMO
+ Lore / Story
+ Big open world that you can explore with your friends (Adventure waiting for you)
+ I heard it got good sPvP (U dont need to play 8h a day to get gear. U get instant lvl80 and same gear in PvP)

MMOs are all about community. Think about it as a game where you meet and work with new ppl so you can safe the world from big ass dragons.


On August 25 2012 23:08 Perscienter wrote:
ts predecessor was a leading PvP MMORPG. Far less rage experienced than in SC2/D3/Aion etc. GW2 supports dynamic events. No subscription, no free to play / pay to win (not yet at least). Diverse classes. Relatively much freedom in the world. It's even possible to dodge projectiles. Lots of cooperative and competitive tasks. Runs fast, looks decent. Arenat.net is renown for not treating their customers like crap, usually.


Thanks for the replies, and I watched that video. It sounds to me that what makes GW2 so great is (1) immersiveness; (2) balanced pve and pvp that requires skill; and (3) easy and fun co-operative experience.

Unfortunately I'm not the type that enjoys MMOs or RPGs in general, so I think I'll have to pass. The only RPG that I truly loved was Skyrim -- everything else, not so much (including Chrono Trigger, Star Ocean, FF7, Fallout 1/2, Mass Effects, SWKOTORs). But GL HF to ya'll!
vanTuni
Profile Joined October 2009
389 Posts
August 25 2012 14:24 GMT
#4534
login servers seem up but the download is not working for me atm. prolly just trafic choked though
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
August 25 2012 14:25 GMT
#4535
On August 25 2012 23:23 happyft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 22:55 bittman wrote:
Dot point wise...there are a lot of good videos which cover them. This was the one that got me originally interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBC_ig73aMs


Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 23:02 NIIINO wrote:
+ Good looking MMO
+ Lore / Story
+ Big open world that you can explore with your friends (Adventure waiting for you)
+ I heard it got good sPvP (U dont need to play 8h a day to get gear. U get instant lvl80 and same gear in PvP)

MMOs are all about community. Think about it as a game where you meet and work with new ppl so you can safe the world from big ass dragons.


Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 23:08 Perscienter wrote:
ts predecessor was a leading PvP MMORPG. Far less rage experienced than in SC2/D3/Aion etc. GW2 supports dynamic events. No subscription, no free to play / pay to win (not yet at least). Diverse classes. Relatively much freedom in the world. It's even possible to dodge projectiles. Lots of cooperative and competitive tasks. Runs fast, looks decent. Arenat.net is renown for not treating their customers like crap, usually.


Thanks for the replies, and I watched that video. It sounds to me that what makes GW2 so great is (1) immersiveness; (2) balanced pve and pvp that requires skill; and (3) easy and fun co-operative experience.

Unfortunately I'm not the type that enjoys MMOs or RPGs in general, so I think I'll have to pass. The only RPG that I truly loved was Skyrim -- everything else, not so much (including Chrono Trigger, Star Ocean, FF7, Fallout 1/2, Mass Effects, SWKOTORs). But GL HF to ya'll!


Yeah they are a pretty big time investment and you really need to immerse yourself in these games to enjoy them (beyond community aspect).

You not liking Chrono Trigger however, tsk tsk!
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
August 25 2012 14:28 GMT
#4536
A lot of people says they can patch now but I'm still at the connection error. Maybe bringing Europe up first? Seems to be Euro posters.
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Eyore
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada27 Posts
August 25 2012 14:31 GMT
#4537
Canadian here, patched but can't log in.
vanTuni
Profile Joined October 2009
389 Posts
August 25 2012 14:31 GMT
#4538
i am back at the connection error
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 14:34:52
August 25 2012 14:33 GMT
#4539
New York here
"Connection errors detected" still for me

EDIT: nevermind I got on actualy
vanTuni
Profile Joined October 2009
389 Posts
August 25 2012 14:33 GMT
#4540
playing ! hwhoohooo
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