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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 23 2012 14:52 GMT
#1741
Hitboxes are also important. Elin have the largest striking range to hit box ratio. Humans are prob next though.

Females preferred of course.
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GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 15:56:04
April 23 2012 15:16 GMT
#1742
Isn't it (small hitbox), you have (shit racials) pretty much and vice versa?

Except if you're a HE non-caster, of course. Those get the worst of both worlds!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 23 2012 15:28 GMT
#1743
Well some racials have gnarly cooldowns. Other racials are great on paper but hitboxes are critical in Tera. So I guess my answer would be "kinda" except that races like Baraka are pretty bad for PvP since they have a large hitbox and a poor striking range, often Baraka striking range is less than Elin.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 23 2012 16:44 GMT
#1744
This game is really good. It might be the best MMO I've played since WoW, as far as actual new and interesting things. I haven't enjoyed a class in other recent MMOs as much as I enjoy Lancer. Once you get up in levels and start soloing BAMs and doing instances and stuff it really takes off. I told myself I'm not buying another MMO so soon after TOR though
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 23 2012 16:50 GMT
#1745
Also to the guy before about Tera endgame.

Mods on items arent completely random. out of 4 stats only one of them might be completely random, and the bonuses are random. But as far as re-randomizing is concerned you dont have to farm up a new gold item unless you really need to reroll that one random statistic.
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Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
April 23 2012 16:52 GMT
#1746
Played the beta a bit this weekend. Fun game, but personally I won't play it for 15/mo. If it was f2p, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but since it's coming out pretty much alongside D3, and they're comparable in quality (in my eyes), it's not worth 15/mo for a similar quality game.

Really fun though, and wouldn't fault anyone for paying to play it :D
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
April 23 2012 16:54 GMT
#1747
On April 23 2012 23:34 Liquid`NonY wrote:
fuck i loved my popori. but now i saw humans get the pvp racial, i feel like i must play a human


10% less dmg taken in pvp while under 30%hp - yeah its good, but i dont think its going to be that big of a game changer.

imo stick with whatever you like aesthetically.

don't forget, popori and elin have smaller hitboxes than human.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
April 23 2012 17:28 GMT
#1748
On April 24 2012 01:54 Caliber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 23:34 Liquid`NonY wrote:
fuck i loved my popori. but now i saw humans get the pvp racial, i feel like i must play a human


10% less dmg taken in pvp while under 30%hp - yeah its good, but i dont think its going to be that big of a game changer.

imo stick with whatever you like aesthetically.

don't forget, popori and elin have smaller hitboxes than human.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!
Goddamn lol

Anyways I'm enjoying my hCup elf
the 2 Hour cooldown mana replenish is a bit long but saved me many times

Also having a blast with my archer. Wish I had webarrow and restraining arrow, but I'm more of a group PvP guy than duels lol

Also Jibba your character has wayyyyyy too many invincible dodges, makes me so sad ;-;
dats racist
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 17:43:17
April 23 2012 17:42 GMT
#1749
On April 24 2012 02:28 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 01:54 Caliber wrote:
On April 23 2012 23:34 Liquid`NonY wrote:
fuck i loved my popori. but now i saw humans get the pvp racial, i feel like i must play a human


10% less dmg taken in pvp while under 30%hp - yeah its good, but i dont think its going to be that big of a game changer.

imo stick with whatever you like aesthetically.

don't forget, popori and elin have smaller hitboxes than human.


Also Jibba your character has wayyyyyy too many invincible dodges, makes me so sad ;-;

Warriors only have two as of level 32. ><
nota
Profile Joined May 2010
United States231 Posts
April 23 2012 18:29 GMT
#1750
On April 24 2012 01:54 Caliber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 23:34 Liquid`NonY wrote:
fuck i loved my popori. but now i saw humans get the pvp racial, i feel like i must play a human


10% less dmg taken in pvp while under 30%hp - yeah its good, but i dont think its going to be that big of a game changer.

imo stick with whatever you like aesthetically.

don't forget, popori and elin have smaller hitboxes than human.


Popori and humans have the same size hit box. Elin and Female castanics have the smallest
SnowyPsilocybin
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom265 Posts
April 23 2012 22:02 GMT
#1751
Does this game have food liek you do on wow to regen health when you are low, i keep using potions :/

This might just be me missing something really obvious
nota
Profile Joined May 2010
United States231 Posts
April 23 2012 22:31 GMT
#1752
On April 24 2012 07:02 SnowyPsilocybin wrote:
Does this game have food liek you do on wow to regen health when you are low, i keep using potions :/

This might just be me missing something really obvious


There are bandages you can buy at merchants. But, they kinda suck
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 23 2012 22:43 GMT
#1753
yeah bandages are better than nothing. getting a few HP regen gems is good too (i use mp5 and hp5 while solo grinding). also standing next to a fire gives you ok regen also. without bandages i can regen to full in a minute or two. so when duelling, duel, tab out, come back, duel etc etc


ps: duelling is fun and fucking hard. as an aussie its just so much harder to dodge shit. warriors/sorcs/slayers/lancers are the hardest for me as a slayer. honestly cant kill a lancer before the draw comes up. slayer vs slayer really depends on who hits their stuns. warriors are hard to pin down, but if you're good enough you get a stun or two then you can chain them down. sorcs can stun you and one shot you so yeah, lol


all good fun tho. archer/priest/mystic/zerker get owned by slayers tho. priests so squishy, one stun to dead. archers cant really evade well enough to damage you down before you own them. only duelled one mystic. and zerkers cant actually hit stuff 1v1 unless you go afk and stand still lol
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nehcnhoj
Profile Joined July 2010
United States213 Posts
April 23 2012 23:36 GMT
#1754
On April 24 2012 02:42 GARO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 02:28 MrHoon wrote:
On April 24 2012 01:54 Caliber wrote:
On April 23 2012 23:34 Liquid`NonY wrote:
fuck i loved my popori. but now i saw humans get the pvp racial, i feel like i must play a human


10% less dmg taken in pvp while under 30%hp - yeah its good, but i dont think its going to be that big of a game changer.

imo stick with whatever you like aesthetically.

don't forget, popori and elin have smaller hitboxes than human.


Also Jibba your character has wayyyyyy too many invincible dodges, makes me so sad ;-;

Warriors only have two as of level 32. ><


This doesn't change. At 60 we only have two dodges. Us and slayers are the only classes with invulnerable dodges. Archer backstep used to be invul, but it was changed as it was deemed op (I disagree with this personally). Which is why archers are at a significant disadvantage against a Sorc 1v1.

On April 24 2012 07:43 Kiante wrote:
ps: duelling is fun and fucking hard. as an aussie its just so much harder to dodge shit. warriors/sorcs/slayers/lancers are the hardest for me as a slayer. honestly cant kill a lancer before the draw comes up. slayer vs slayer really depends on who hits their stuns. warriors are hard to pin down, but if you're good enough you get a stun or two then you can chain them down. sorcs can stun you and one shot you so yeah, lol


all good fun tho. archer/priest/mystic/zerker get owned by slayers tho. priests so squishy, one stun to dead. archers cant really evade well enough to damage you down before you own them. only duelled one mystic. and zerkers cant actually hit stuff 1v1 unless you go afk and stand still lol


The key to beating sorc is basically learning to dodge lock-ons. There are two ways. Out of range the lock on during the duration, or invul dodge it. Sorcs have two lock-ons, the fire damage one, and the root. The fire damage has a fly through the air in a big loop animation and is "easy" to dodge relative to the root. The root is probably the fastest lock on animation in the game, to dodge that, you just have to reactionary dodge right as you see the lock on warning come on your screen. Note that a good Sorc can easily play around with how long they hold their lock ons or in what order they use them.

This is mostly speaking for warriors / slayers.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 23 2012 23:41 GMT
#1755
On April 24 2012 08:36 nehcnhoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 02:42 GARO wrote:
On April 24 2012 02:28 MrHoon wrote:
On April 24 2012 01:54 Caliber wrote:
On April 23 2012 23:34 Liquid`NonY wrote:
fuck i loved my popori. but now i saw humans get the pvp racial, i feel like i must play a human


10% less dmg taken in pvp while under 30%hp - yeah its good, but i dont think its going to be that big of a game changer.

imo stick with whatever you like aesthetically.

don't forget, popori and elin have smaller hitboxes than human.


Also Jibba your character has wayyyyyy too many invincible dodges, makes me so sad ;-;

Warriors only have two as of level 32. ><


This doesn't change. At 60 we only have two dodges. Us and slayers are the only classes with invulnerable dodges. Archer backstep used to be invul, but it was changed as it was deemed op (I disagree with this personally). Which is why archers are at a significant disadvantage against a Sorc 1v1.

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 07:43 Kiante wrote:
ps: duelling is fun and fucking hard. as an aussie its just so much harder to dodge shit. warriors/sorcs/slayers/lancers are the hardest for me as a slayer. honestly cant kill a lancer before the draw comes up. slayer vs slayer really depends on who hits their stuns. warriors are hard to pin down, but if you're good enough you get a stun or two then you can chain them down. sorcs can stun you and one shot you so yeah, lol


all good fun tho. archer/priest/mystic/zerker get owned by slayers tho. priests so squishy, one stun to dead. archers cant really evade well enough to damage you down before you own them. only duelled one mystic. and zerkers cant actually hit stuff 1v1 unless you go afk and stand still lol


The key to beating sorc is basically learning to dodge lock-ons. There are two ways. Out of range the lock on during the duration, or invul dodge it. Sorcs have two lock-ons, the fire damage one, and the root. The fire damage has a fly through the air in a big loop animation and is "easy" to dodge relative to the root. The root is probably the fastest lock on animation in the game, to dodge that, you just have to reactionary dodge right as you see the lock on warning come on your screen. Note that a good Sorc can easily play around with how long they hold their lock ons or in what order they use them.

This is mostly speaking for warriors / slayers.

yeah i have a lot of learning to do. duelling with 30 million people around on lowest graphics settings becuase my drivers crashed didn't help either XD i'd say i was at 50% win rate vs lvl 32's so i'm ok with that
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nehcnhoj
Profile Joined July 2010
United States213 Posts
April 23 2012 23:41 GMT
#1756
On April 24 2012 03:29 nota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 01:54 Caliber wrote:
On April 23 2012 23:34 Liquid`NonY wrote:
fuck i loved my popori. but now i saw humans get the pvp racial, i feel like i must play a human


10% less dmg taken in pvp while under 30%hp - yeah its good, but i dont think its going to be that big of a game changer.

imo stick with whatever you like aesthetically.

don't forget, popori and elin have smaller hitboxes than human.


Popori and humans have the same size hit box. Elin and Female castanics have the smallest


Because Elin and Castanic have the smallest hit box, they also have deadzones on a few skills. What I mean by deadzones is that, when you are directly hugging your target, a few of your skills will not hit if you aim it right at him. You either have to aim at an angle, or make sure you're a step away before using them. Small hitboxes aren't all good ^^;
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 23:53:34
April 23 2012 23:53 GMT
#1757
I havent noticed any deadzones attacking from inside, next to, or away from a target (Elin). About the only time I will whiff a target I clearly hit is on inclines and declines.

Bandages are still good in Tera. They used to be usable while running and they were so OP they had to be nerfed because endgame bandages restore a very large percentage of life. They are still crazy good.
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nehcnhoj
Profile Joined July 2010
United States213 Posts
April 24 2012 00:00 GMT
#1758
On April 24 2012 08:53 Medrea wrote:
I havent noticed any deadzones attacking from inside, next to, or away from a target (Elin). About the only time I will whiff a target I clearly hit is on inclines and declines.

Bandages are still good in Tera. They used to be usable while running and they were so OP they had to be nerfed because endgame bandages restore a very large percentage of life. They are still crazy good.


The target has to have a small hitbox too. This mostly occurs in pvp, elin - elin elin - castanic or castanic - castanic. Or on smaller mobs or minions.

For warriors it's Combative strike and the first hit of Blade draw.

For slayers, as far as I know, it's the skill that does increasing damage the lower your hp is.

Since I've seen you soloing bams, have you ever noticed that, when you are behind / beside the BAM and it's using a frontal conal aoe skill, if at that moment you use any of the skills I mentioned above, and it syncs exactly on time, you actually get hit by the aoe skill even though you are standing beside / behind the BAM.

On April 23 2012 23:52 Medrea wrote:
Hitboxes are also important. Elin have the largest striking range to hit box ratio. Humans are prob next though.

Females preferred of course.


This is true, however, Elin swings slower. For example:

If an elin and a castanic zerker were to use the exact same skill at the same time, the castanic's one would hit first, and have the potential to cancel the elin's skill or even knock the elin over.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 24 2012 00:01 GMT
#1759
See, I love supporting corporate transparency.

http://www.enmasse.com/blog/posts/bluehole-studio-not-guilty-in-trial

Now granted they are talking about it after winning a trial. But even talking about it is very uncommon.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 00:14:10
April 24 2012 00:04 GMT
#1760
On April 24 2012 09:00 nehcnhoj wrote:

This is true, however, Elin swings slower. For example:

If an elin and a castanic zerker were to use the exact same skill at the same time, the castanic's one would hit first, and have the potential to cancel the elin's skill or even knock the elin over.


Ummm. nope.



Jump to 14 min. For warrior.

For berserker go to 6. They are pretty much identical. Its not exactly a precise measurement so if there is a difference, its quite small.

And no I havent noticed any problems with combative strike and blade draw. For starters I cant even activate blade draw until the end of another ability which pushes me away from a BAM.

The only time I was hit by a front cone AoE when I was behind was with headlong rush with a basilisk. I assume thats what you are talking about. Im still not sure why that was happening but that was with a human female. Not an Elin.
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