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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
August 21 2010 14:48 GMT
#41
You ask this on a forum which was dedicated to (well, until recently...) an 11 year old sprite-based game.
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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 21 2010 14:53 GMT
#42
theres no way i would buy that game. it looks like shit. im sorry but graphics > gameplay when it looks that bad. also cod/halo/anything probably has better controls then that too. as for sc2. i like to see how pretty everything is. playing on low settings feels like its n64 graphics from above, no thanks. some of the death animations are even cut off.
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
August 21 2010 15:40 GMT
#43
Tetris for the gameboy didn't have OMG graphics, but they did a good job of conveying the information they needed to. Minesweeper, breakout and even galaga hold up IMO. Solitaire would be another example where the graphics are immaterial.

The boardgame Go doesn't need fancy graphics, but people still spend fantastic amounts of money on boards/stones.
Nethack is usually used as an example of a game with bad graphics, but for the information density there really is no better way than text.
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SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
August 21 2010 15:46 GMT
#44
lol i accidentally voted graphics. sorry. of couse gameplay is more important. after all, it is a game, not a movie. most of my friends say the opposite and that makes me want to punch them in the face.
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ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
August 21 2010 15:47 GMT
#45
I think to a degree, graphics are important but it scales off pretty dramatically. If something looks good, then hell yeah cool man but after being good and making it better, it matters less and less. Sure you have that initial "shit son this looks amazing" on an amazingly looking game but after that you don't really notice it much unless it's melting your eyes with bloom (or more likely it's completely black/grey/brown level because that's "realistic")
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
August 21 2010 16:48 GMT
#46
On August 22 2010 00:46 SilentCrono wrote:
lol i accidentally voted graphics. sorry. of couse gameplay is more important. after all, it is a game, not a movie. most of my friends say the opposite and that makes me want to punch them in the face.


graphics are more important in movies?
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 21 2010 17:22 GMT
#47
The graphics need to be just good enough as to not hinder the gameplay. After that all I care about is gameplay.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9795 Posts
August 21 2010 18:02 GMT
#48
one of the main reasons i don't like sc2 is because of the graphics. they're too flashy, even on low, and its very difficult for me to gauge battles.

is that an argument that makes graphics important or gameplay important?
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araged
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic189 Posts
August 23 2010 11:00 GMT
#49
On August 21 2010 18:33 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 18:14 araged wrote:
Wii sucks balls, I should know it, I own one. There are two worthy games on that system and that it.

Not the wii's fault if all you want is FPS and JRPG games. It has plenty of good games.


The only FPS games I ever played were Q3 Arena and CS and I hate JRPGs with passion. Sadly Wii's prehistoric tech specs and gay and gimmicky control options doesn't allow for enjoyable gaming. With the exception of SMG and Fire Emblem noone of Wii games have entertained me for more than 30 minutes.
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Parabola
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)111 Posts
August 23 2010 11:19 GMT
#50
By this point, good graphics should be a given.
The first sign of maturity is the discovery that the volume knob also turns to the left.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 23 2010 11:25 GMT
#51
Numbers tell everything
Wii > Xbox > PS3 because of gameplay
Also a Wii is something that interests women.
thats like 50% of the market there give or take! lol XD
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DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
August 23 2010 11:40 GMT
#52
There are no game without gameplay.
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Aguy
Profile Joined January 2010
United States4 Posts
August 23 2010 12:55 GMT
#53
Gameplay, definitely.

I can spend countless hours on Dwarf Fortress.

Graphics are a plus, but gameplay is the selling point.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
August 23 2010 13:06 GMT
#54
the story telling and plot.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4393 Posts
August 23 2010 13:24 GMT
#55
On August 23 2010 20:25 Mykill wrote:
Wii > Xbox > PS3 because of gameplay

yeah wii fit is packed full of fun gameplay
you get to weigh yourself and stuff....
wii is popular because they put the whole weight loss angle on it so alot of women bought it , if people really wanted gameplay over graphics then PC would still be the king of gaming...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12062 Posts
August 23 2010 13:33 GMT
#56
On August 23 2010 22:24 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2010 20:25 Mykill wrote:
Wii > Xbox > PS3 because of gameplay

yeah wii fit is packed full of fun gameplay
you get to weigh yourself and stuff....
wii is popular because they put the whole weight loss angle on it so alot of women bought it , if people really wanted gameplay over graphics then PC would still be the king of gaming...



Umm PC has better graphics than consoles. It has pretty much always had it. It also has better gameplay in many (most) cases. What it doesn't have is ease of usage and low costs for high graphics.

I voted graphics, due to the fierce competition I can almost always find a game with similar gameplay but better graphics. There are some notable exception, but they are exceptions.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17694 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 13:35:44
August 23 2010 13:34 GMT
#57
Regardless of the poll results, Wii still sucks.

And graphics are pretty important too in some games, as they let you immerse better/see better/enjoy more.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
August 23 2010 13:51 GMT
#58
Gameplay all the way. There is always that rare treat of a game that provides both. I remember seeing HL2 reveal in 2003 and being blown away and hoping that the gameplay matched the visual advances and it completely met my expectation.

More often than not though, we have games that just look pretty and lack any real depth. It's like the blood and gore argument, eventually you stop noticing it when you are playing and the game (whichever it may be) comes down to strategies and concentration. I feel the same way about graphics, at some point I will stop noticing the beautiful HDR or the texture detail and after that, the game better have a damn good backbone otherwise it's not going to get much playtime afterwards.
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Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
August 23 2010 14:14 GMT
#59
On August 23 2010 21:55 Aguy wrote:
Gameplay, definitely.

I can spend countless hours on Dwarf Fortress.

Graphics are a plus, but gameplay is the selling point.


Dwarf fortress for the win!

Can't believe this game is in ASCII while being the best game I've ever played.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
August 23 2010 14:16 GMT
#60
On August 21 2010 08:47 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
This is why the Wii is crushing the PS3 and XBox, because if people want nice pictures, they'll watch a movie. Same with DS vs PSP. People play games for a challenge, enjoyment, and the story. Now Wii graphics are much worse than they could be, but that is too keep the system cheap. Instead of trying to push the graphics engine of the PS3, developers should make good games (which is why the PS move and Kinetic are doomed to fail).


This actually has absolutely nothing to do with why the Wii beats out the other consoles in sales... like, at all.

Ironically, it's the wii gameplay that's probably consistently the worst out of all the systems... by far. The gimmicky nunchuck shit only really works for a handful of games—not anything like COD, Madden or NHL series or any major franchise really. For most games, it's simply more hassle than fun to swing a stupid piece of unresponsive plastic in the air. Wii is almost exclusively built on it's niche market, catering to people who typically wouldn't identify as 'gamers' but find wii sports cool or something like that. The remaining demographic is pretty much just Nintendo fanboys (SSBM, Mario and Zelda was enough for my brother and his friend to buy and then the thing went right into the garbage because the system is junk besides that)

Seriously, I've heard multiple people say they've bought their wife/gf wii sports because the SO enjoys it and it's the easiest way to get her to lose weight without saying she's fat. THAT'S FUCKIN' BRILLIANT MARKETING!!

I definitely take gameplay over graphics, but it's not as skewed as some of you are making it. It's definitely not 90-10. I'm not paying $60 in 2010 for 8 bit graphics. That's why people are dirting on the Goldeneye reboot. It's essentially the exact same game, cept the graphics look like they are from 2005 instead of 1996... it's like every title on the wii actually. A recycled old classic that's completely uninspired but will sell anyway.
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