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Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 07:05:32
August 18 2011 07:05 GMT
#301
It's as if the devs did not know about the existence of LoL and other f2p games that are doing it right...
No free ranked PvP? What's the point in playing?

That being said, i'm just using this to waste time in single player for a while. Good for maybe 5 or 6 hours b4 you get bored.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
Kelberot
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil364 Posts
August 18 2011 07:11 GMT
#302
well, I'm glad I read the last page... if it only gets worse after grinding out your units (which is the worst thing ever anyway) unless you pay, I'm done with this game.
RogerShah
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands131 Posts
August 18 2011 11:01 GMT
#303
I actually prefer this game over SC2 right now. It's very relaxing compared to sc2.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 18 2011 17:09 GMT
#304
On August 18 2011 16:05 Nazza wrote:
It's as if the devs did not know about the existence of LoL and other f2p games that are doing it right...
No free ranked PvP? What's the point in playing?

That being said, i'm just using this to waste time in single player for a while. Good for maybe 5 or 6 hours b4 you get bored.


Don't you have to play for like 3 months before you get Ranked PvP in LoL? They just need to implement a time commitment reward system like that. The F2P model is so simple to understand. You make everything essential to the game available to all players and have it easily available to buy with $$.

You cannot say like "Pay for X" unless X is aesthetic and doesn't give an advantage in gameplay. So charging for units, ranked PvP, etc, is just going to fail.
Never make a hydralisk.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 18 2011 17:57 GMT
#305
On August 19 2011 02:09 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:05 Nazza wrote:
It's as if the devs did not know about the existence of LoL and other f2p games that are doing it right...
No free ranked PvP? What's the point in playing?

That being said, i'm just using this to waste time in single player for a while. Good for maybe 5 or 6 hours b4 you get bored.


Don't you have to play for like 3 months before you get Ranked PvP in LoL? They just need to implement a time commitment reward system like that. The F2P model is so simple to understand. You make everything essential to the game available to all players and have it easily available to buy with $$.

You cannot say like "Pay for X" unless X is aesthetic and doesn't give an advantage in gameplay. So charging for units, ranked PvP, etc, is just going to fail.


You must reach level 30 to play ranked which is about 300 games at 30-40 min average. How long that takes you is more on the player than anything. A large portion of players don't even bother playing ranked anyways. All it does is track stats and give you a non-hidden elo rating. It's just another ladder at the end of the day that really doesn't matter.

I don't see why people are so caught up in not having "ranked" PvP in the first place. Since you can only do un-ranked PvP without paying for the game it's where everybody is going to be playing. Ranked is just a separate ladder with a fancy name that makes you want to play on it. It also provides a degree of separation between pay to win people and free to players assuming the people who paid for the game stay off the un-ranked ladder (which is doubtful).
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 18 2011 18:45 GMT
#306
On August 19 2011 02:57 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:09 justinpal wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:05 Nazza wrote:
It's as if the devs did not know about the existence of LoL and other f2p games that are doing it right...
No free ranked PvP? What's the point in playing?

That being said, i'm just using this to waste time in single player for a while. Good for maybe 5 or 6 hours b4 you get bored.


Don't you have to play for like 3 months before you get Ranked PvP in LoL? They just need to implement a time commitment reward system like that. The F2P model is so simple to understand. You make everything essential to the game available to all players and have it easily available to buy with $$.

You cannot say like "Pay for X" unless X is aesthetic and doesn't give an advantage in gameplay. So charging for units, ranked PvP, etc, is just going to fail.


You must reach level 30 to play ranked which is about 300 games at 30-40 min average. How long that takes you is more on the player than anything. A large portion of players don't even bother playing ranked anyways. All it does is track stats and give you a non-hidden elo rating. It's just another ladder at the end of the day that really doesn't matter.

I don't see why people are so caught up in not having "ranked" PvP in the first place. Since you can only do un-ranked PvP without paying for the game it's where everybody is going to be playing. Ranked is just a separate ladder with a fancy name that makes you want to play on it. It also provides a degree of separation between pay to win people and free to players assuming the people who paid for the game stay off the un-ranked ladder (which is doubtful).


Well, I know SC2 would be pretty boring if Grandmaster players ended up playing against Bronze players even 1 out of 10 games. That's my only fear in playing in unranked matches is getting matched up against people of higher or lower ELO.
Never make a hydralisk.
rkffhk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
474 Posts
August 18 2011 23:08 GMT
#307
On August 18 2011 09:32 Derez wrote:
This game isn't free to play at all. You get the tutorial for free, and after that you have to pay up or you're absolutely screwed.

There is not a single truthful word in that post you just made.
"Did not realize gold was such an important threshold for people, I guess I honestly take it for granted that if people practice / invest enough time into this game then they would make diamond in no time." ~Caihead
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
August 20 2011 05:36 GMT
#308
So, I'm patching this up right now to see what all the hub bub is about. If it provides me a few hours of entertainment, it's a winner in my book! =D
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 20 2011 05:49 GMT
#309
Looks awfully addictive... Age of Empires was the first game that I managed to *gasp* install by myself... (I was 5 years old at that time and knew what "continue" meant lol, thinking back, thats kinda awesome)
Looks fun too, though I think that I will just play AoE 2 over gameranger if I want to play that kind of RTS..
In the woods, there lurks..
OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
August 20 2011 08:02 GMT
#310
play on Voobly! not gameranger
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
August 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#311
On August 19 2011 08:08 rkffhk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 09:32 Derez wrote:
This game isn't free to play at all. You get the tutorial for free, and after that you have to pay up or you're absolutely screwed.

There is not a single truthful word in that post you just made.


haha Yes , this post is one big LIE :D
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Nammflow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
August 22 2011 05:23 GMT
#312
Just tried this game today, got to level 6 so that I could play online. The single player up to that point was mostly just tutorial-type quests which were entertaining enough for me to keep playing. I queued up for a pvp match and I go against an opponent who has ends up at my base with about 30 units to my 10... It doesn't help that I could only build 3 fighting units either. I won't be playing this game anymore, not worth the time and definitely not worth the money to purchase imo.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
August 22 2011 14:52 GMT
#313
So can you put into the first post what you actually get when you play for free and what you can buy?? I'm awfully confused about this premium content stuff, civilizations, arena, this special offer where you get bonus content but only for a limited time (??)...
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rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
August 24 2011 05:58 GMT
#314
On August 22 2011 23:52 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
So can you put into the first post what you actually get when you play for free and what you can buy?? I'm awfully confused about this premium content stuff, civilizations, arena, this special offer where you get bonus content but only for a limited time (??)...


I'd like some clarification too.

I read at places you HAVE TO pay to get something decent, someone else says everything is available if you put enough time for free. Some says buying makes PvP unbalanced and shitty some say it doesn't this really is confusing Oo

Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 24 2011 18:31 GMT
#315
On August 24 2011 14:58 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 23:52 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
So can you put into the first post what you actually get when you play for free and what you can buy?? I'm awfully confused about this premium content stuff, civilizations, arena, this special offer where you get bonus content but only for a limited time (??)...


I'd like some clarification too.

I read at places you HAVE TO pay to get something decent, someone else says everything is available if you put enough time for free. Some says buying makes PvP unbalanced and shitty some say it doesn't this really is confusing Oo



Well, here are the things that you must purchase one premium civilization to have access to:

- Most items are common or uncommon (green). There are rare and I guess epic items (blue and purple). If you want to use the rare and epic items, which give your units substantial upgrades you need to purchase that premium civilization.

- There is also a producible unit called an adviser. The advisers can afford you unique units or very nice economic upgrades (ex. +10% worker gathering rate, +10% caravan speed, etc). This is only available to you if you purchase a premium civilization.

- Ranked PvP is only available if you purchase premium civilization.

- The highest tier technology upgrades are only available once you purchase premium civilizations.

- Several buildings for buying items are only available for the premium civilizations. I believe you cannot have more than two warehouses if you did not pay for the premium civilizations.

So if you want to just play for free you get:

- Green items (you can pick up blue and purple items, but you cannot use), unranked PvP, up until the last tier of technology, which includes all units (except the adviser units/unique units).

Additionally, you can buy:

- Booster packs that include extra maps for you to play multiplayer. I believe Skirmish Mode, a Firefight (defend base) like map, and another similar map.

- Fancy doodads for your town or whatever.

If you were to play against someone in PvP of equal level as a non-premium civilization and they have premium, you must outplay them pretty heavily to win the game. But, technically there is no tech advantage (just an item advantage giving most units +10% more health/damage/armor) until you get to the max levels.

That said, you do get to play through as many quests as you can I believe. Many of the quests will reward you with items you cannot use until you pay.

Never make a hydralisk.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
August 24 2011 19:32 GMT
#316
Thank you and I finally tested it to get an idea. Felt the game was good but the system makes me really sad.

This kinda suck that they didn't use a system like LoL...

LoL economic system is genius in my opinion, the fact that the game is fun and free and everyone has its chances ensure them to have a ever growing customer base through word of mouth. They then add premium options for those that are interested and therefore ensure them to get a % of their customers to pay fees. The amount of money increases as the free customer base increases.

Here if paying creates imbalance I don't see why free user will be interested for a long time in the game and word of mouth of the game due to this is really meh if you look around. I'm no prophet but I THINK the game will not live to be something as big as LoL and quickly shrink to a dedicated paying player base.

Basicaly if you want the full game you pay, which I'm fine with it. I would have paid a premium pass 40$ or such and be done with it. BUT 20$/civ, then 10$/booster is a RIDICULOUS amount of money to play FEATURES of a game. These are no cosmetics, these are part of a game.
In the end if you think about it it is very similar to a MMORPG system, 40$ retail + 60$/6 months is close to the season 1 pass AoEO at 100$ that they propose. Then a new faction here and there that you buy (the same as a patch in a MMO) and its close to the 12$/month of a subscription fee you need to have access to the full game.
And..... unlocking units etc has a lot to do with RPG (quests, level, items...).

And its not like the servers are WoW like... I made a PvP game, and it lagged so much it was stupid -.-

I feel someone in this company was a bit to greedy.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Dante_A_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States161 Posts
August 24 2011 19:47 GMT
#317
As the USA representative to the first two WCG for Age of Empires The Conquerors, I am just glad to see that the game is alive in some shape or form these days . It brought back a lot of memories just seeing the name.
OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
August 24 2011 20:14 GMT
#318
Dante, ur a legend ^^
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
August 24 2011 21:37 GMT
#319
I've been playing this game a bit. It seems okay. It definitely feels like Age of Empires, but I just don't know if I like it enough to pay up. I do like the graphical style though. It looks fresh and the cartoony look is nice after seeing so many games going for realism these days.

What this has caused to do however, is go back and play AoE2 (I still have the giant box from the late 90s. My grandpa bought me the game because he thought it looked educational). Man that game is fun. It feels easy compared to SC but I find the variety of civilizations kinda refreshing. Plus the campaign is fun. La Hire is a badass.
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PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
August 24 2011 22:22 GMT
#320
been trying to install for a few days with no luck. no support was offered :-/. giving up on it
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