EPTNo free ranked PvP? What's the point in playing?
That being said, i'm just using this to waste time in single player for a while. Good for maybe 5 or 6 hours b4 you get bored.
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Nazza
Australia1654 Posts
No free ranked PvP? What's the point in playing? That being said, i'm just using this to waste time in single player for a while. Good for maybe 5 or 6 hours b4 you get bored. | ||
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Kelberot
Brazil364 Posts
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RogerShah
Netherlands131 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On August 18 2011 16:05 Nazza wrote: It's as if the devs did not know about the existence of LoL and other f2p games that are doing it right... No free ranked PvP? What's the point in playing? That being said, i'm just using this to waste time in single player for a while. Good for maybe 5 or 6 hours b4 you get bored. Don't you have to play for like 3 months before you get Ranked PvP in LoL? They just need to implement a time commitment reward system like that. The F2P model is so simple to understand. You make everything essential to the game available to all players and have it easily available to buy with $$. You cannot say like "Pay for X" unless X is aesthetic and doesn't give an advantage in gameplay. So charging for units, ranked PvP, etc, is just going to fail. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On August 19 2011 02:09 justinpal wrote: Don't you have to play for like 3 months before you get Ranked PvP in LoL? They just need to implement a time commitment reward system like that. The F2P model is so simple to understand. You make everything essential to the game available to all players and have it easily available to buy with $$. You cannot say like "Pay for X" unless X is aesthetic and doesn't give an advantage in gameplay. So charging for units, ranked PvP, etc, is just going to fail. You must reach level 30 to play ranked which is about 300 games at 30-40 min average. How long that takes you is more on the player than anything. A large portion of players don't even bother playing ranked anyways. All it does is track stats and give you a non-hidden elo rating. It's just another ladder at the end of the day that really doesn't matter. I don't see why people are so caught up in not having "ranked" PvP in the first place. Since you can only do un-ranked PvP without paying for the game it's where everybody is going to be playing. Ranked is just a separate ladder with a fancy name that makes you want to play on it. It also provides a degree of separation between pay to win people and free to players assuming the people who paid for the game stay off the un-ranked ladder (which is doubtful). | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On August 19 2011 02:57 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: You must reach level 30 to play ranked which is about 300 games at 30-40 min average. How long that takes you is more on the player than anything. A large portion of players don't even bother playing ranked anyways. All it does is track stats and give you a non-hidden elo rating. It's just another ladder at the end of the day that really doesn't matter. I don't see why people are so caught up in not having "ranked" PvP in the first place. Since you can only do un-ranked PvP without paying for the game it's where everybody is going to be playing. Ranked is just a separate ladder with a fancy name that makes you want to play on it. It also provides a degree of separation between pay to win people and free to players assuming the people who paid for the game stay off the un-ranked ladder (which is doubtful). Well, I know SC2 would be pretty boring if Grandmaster players ended up playing against Bronze players even 1 out of 10 games. That's my only fear in playing in unranked matches is getting matched up against people of higher or lower ELO. | ||
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rkffhk
474 Posts
On August 18 2011 09:32 Derez wrote: This game isn't free to play at all. You get the tutorial for free, and after that you have to pay up or you're absolutely screwed. There is not a single truthful word in that post you just made. | ||
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Looks fun too, though I think that I will just play AoE 2 over gameranger if I want to play that kind of RTS.. | ||
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OoFuzer
Chile436 Posts
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On August 19 2011 08:08 rkffhk wrote: There is not a single truthful word in that post you just made. haha Yes , this post is one big LIE :D | ||
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Nammflow
United States35 Posts
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On August 22 2011 23:52 AntiGrav1ty wrote: So can you put into the first post what you actually get when you play for free and what you can buy?? I'm awfully confused about this premium content stuff, civilizations, arena, this special offer where you get bonus content but only for a limited time (??)... I'd like some clarification too. I read at places you HAVE TO pay to get something decent, someone else says everything is available if you put enough time for free. Some says buying makes PvP unbalanced and shitty some say it doesn't this really is confusing Oo | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On August 24 2011 14:58 rezoacken wrote: I'd like some clarification too. I read at places you HAVE TO pay to get something decent, someone else says everything is available if you put enough time for free. Some says buying makes PvP unbalanced and shitty some say it doesn't this really is confusing Oo Well, here are the things that you must purchase one premium civilization to have access to: - Most items are common or uncommon (green). There are rare and I guess epic items (blue and purple). If you want to use the rare and epic items, which give your units substantial upgrades you need to purchase that premium civilization. - There is also a producible unit called an adviser. The advisers can afford you unique units or very nice economic upgrades (ex. +10% worker gathering rate, +10% caravan speed, etc). This is only available to you if you purchase a premium civilization. - Ranked PvP is only available if you purchase premium civilization. - The highest tier technology upgrades are only available once you purchase premium civilizations. - Several buildings for buying items are only available for the premium civilizations. I believe you cannot have more than two warehouses if you did not pay for the premium civilizations. So if you want to just play for free you get: - Green items (you can pick up blue and purple items, but you cannot use), unranked PvP, up until the last tier of technology, which includes all units (except the adviser units/unique units). Additionally, you can buy: - Booster packs that include extra maps for you to play multiplayer. I believe Skirmish Mode, a Firefight (defend base) like map, and another similar map. - Fancy doodads for your town or whatever. If you were to play against someone in PvP of equal level as a non-premium civilization and they have premium, you must outplay them pretty heavily to win the game. But, technically there is no tech advantage (just an item advantage giving most units +10% more health/damage/armor) until you get to the max levels. That said, you do get to play through as many quests as you can I believe. Many of the quests will reward you with items you cannot use until you pay. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
This kinda suck that they didn't use a system like LoL... LoL economic system is genius in my opinion, the fact that the game is fun and free and everyone has its chances ensure them to have a ever growing customer base through word of mouth. They then add premium options for those that are interested and therefore ensure them to get a % of their customers to pay fees. The amount of money increases as the free customer base increases. Here if paying creates imbalance I don't see why free user will be interested for a long time in the game and word of mouth of the game due to this is really meh if you look around. I'm no prophet but I THINK the game will not live to be something as big as LoL and quickly shrink to a dedicated paying player base. Basicaly if you want the full game you pay, which I'm fine with it. I would have paid a premium pass 40$ or such and be done with it. BUT 20$/civ, then 10$/booster is a RIDICULOUS amount of money to play FEATURES of a game. These are no cosmetics, these are part of a game. In the end if you think about it it is very similar to a MMORPG system, 40$ retail + 60$/6 months is close to the season 1 pass AoEO at 100$ that they propose. Then a new faction here and there that you buy (the same as a patch in a MMO) and its close to the 12$/month of a subscription fee you need to have access to the full game. And..... unlocking units etc has a lot to do with RPG (quests, level, items...). And its not like the servers are WoW like... I made a PvP game, and it lagged so much it was stupid -.- I feel someone in this company was a bit to greedy. | ||
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Dante_A_
United States161 Posts
 . It brought back a lot of memories just seeing the name. | ||
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OoFuzer
Chile436 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
What this has caused to do however, is go back and play AoE2 (I still have the giant box from the late 90s. My grandpa bought me the game because he thought it looked educational). Man that game is fun. It feels easy compared to SC but I find the variety of civilizations kinda refreshing. Plus the campaign is fun. La Hire is a badass. | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
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