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On January 26 2011 04:10 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
It's hard to call it a robbery until we see the end result of the Cutler era in Chicago. What if Cutler fixes his mechanical issues with Martz over the next two years, and he wins two rings in Chicago? Was it still a robbery? I don't particularly think that will happen (two rings, though I think he will fix the mechanical issues, because we've seen steady improvement under Martz throughout the year), but it's possible.
I think they gave up way too many draft picks in that trade. It's not just about Cutler. It's how big an upgrade he is over Orton and whether that justifies all the draft picks they gave up. Though I suppose it doesn't sound that bad if the Bears figured they will pick horribly anyway so might as well trade those picks.
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On January 26 2011 03:16 Shindou wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 02:59 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On January 25 2011 05:16 Shindou wrote:
It has nothing to do with his manliness you asked me when did he act like a mopey bitch, i was guessing spygate 2 was why you said mcdaniels is an idiot. It's a coaching style that obviously didn't work. It doesn't mean that cutler acted like any more or any less of a baby about the situation. Mcdaniels is a very accomplished QB coach too Drafting Tebow and that WR over Dez Bryant are why McDaniels is an idiot. I really didn't think anyone would try to disagree with that point. Well that's not my point. Cutler handling the situation in Denver like a bitch was. It doesn't matter what degree of a tear, how good he is or anything like that, when you have that kinda history on top of his demeanor the media's going to eat you up. It's not a matter of being right or wrong that's juts how it is. You can't turn away from reporters and start to cry bc you find out that people you probably don't like in the first place are talking shit on you. dude needs to grow up
And that's why the media is retarded.
Do you really think that if it wasn't Cutler, this would be happening? That PLAYERS would be condemning him when they don't know what injury he has? Hell no. They all saw it and were probably like "hehehe Cutler is such a douche Imma rub it in his face that he's hurt."
If it was Peyton Manning or something that got hurt, you'd just see all the players on Twitter saying shit like "Get well soon, Peyton.  "
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On January 26 2011 06:02 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 03:16 Shindou wrote:On January 26 2011 02:59 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On January 25 2011 05:16 Shindou wrote:
It has nothing to do with his manliness you asked me when did he act like a mopey bitch, i was guessing spygate 2 was why you said mcdaniels is an idiot. It's a coaching style that obviously didn't work. It doesn't mean that cutler acted like any more or any less of a baby about the situation. Mcdaniels is a very accomplished QB coach too Drafting Tebow and that WR over Dez Bryant are why McDaniels is an idiot. I really didn't think anyone would try to disagree with that point. Well that's not my point. Cutler handling the situation in Denver like a bitch was. It doesn't matter what degree of a tear, how good he is or anything like that, when you have that kinda history on top of his demeanor the media's going to eat you up. It's not a matter of being right or wrong that's juts how it is. You can't turn away from reporters and start to cry bc you find out that people you probably don't like in the first place are talking shit on you. dude needs to grow up And that's why the media is retarded. Do you really think that if it wasn't Cutler, this would be happening? That PLAYERS would be condemning him when they don't know what injury he has? Hell no. They all saw it and were probably like "hehehe Cutler is such a douche Imma rub it in his face that he's hurt." If it was Peyton Manning or something that got hurt, you'd just see all the players on Twitter saying shit like "Get well soon, Peyton. "
The majority of the players that were talking were a bunch of no name hacks anyway. They probably were trying to be controversial so they could get a few more followers to stroke their e-peens a little more.
Someone shared this link earlier, and a comment from it that sums up what I thought about most of those twitter feeds:
I think my favorite was Ross Tucker
I’ve hurt my knee playing football 4 times. Never once did I then stand up on sidelines afterwards.
Yes, the Ross Tucker who played in 42 NFL games for 6 teams and then bowed out of the NFL because he couldn’t cut it after an injury.
On January 26 2011 05:54 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 04:10 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
It's hard to call it a robbery until we see the end result of the Cutler era in Chicago. What if Cutler fixes his mechanical issues with Martz over the next two years, and he wins two rings in Chicago? Was it still a robbery? I don't particularly think that will happen (two rings, though I think he will fix the mechanical issues, because we've seen steady improvement under Martz throughout the year), but it's possible. I think they gave up way too many draft picks in that trade. It's not just about Cutler. It's how big an upgrade he is over Orton and whether that justifies all the draft picks they gave up. Though I suppose it doesn't sound that bad if the Bears figured they will pick horribly anyway so might as well trade those picks.
Cutler has the potential to be better by leaps and bounds. He just needs some work on his mechanics, and decision making. Physically, he's one of the most capable people the NFL has ever seen. Huge arm, good speed--overall good athleticism--great size. Physically, he's an almost perfect QB, but he needs to work on the other parts of the game still, which he can do if he puts the effort in, most probably. But I suppose that you're probably right; it's probably unwise to spend that many draft picks purely on potential.
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On January 26 2011 05:42 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 05:04 Shindou wrote:http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/3/16/798798/jay-cutler-asks-for-tradehttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11529663/rssOther stuff in the article aside, it was pretty documented that Cutler wouldn't talk to McDaniels for a while, and whenever he did he needed Bus Cook to be there. When he finally wanted a trade, he had Bus Cook call it in. Was he in the media the whole time? no - I never said that. But when he told them what happened it boiled down to "They didn't tell me I was their number 1 QB and I'm upset." It's not about being Brady or Manning - it's about handling situations. Then he only had one good season, and since then the only thing he's done is beaten the Seahawks. I think it's pretty annoying to any fb fan to have to hear about a young unaccomplished "rising star" get butthurt BC a coach wanted someone else originally and handle it the way he did. It just adds to what happened over the weekend. Actually, that's almost exactly what you said: Show nested quote +Sure anyone would be upset about the situation but you're getting paid millions to be a professional athlete. Read what he had to say to reporters afterwards. The whole reason he was upset was because Mcdaniels didn't tell him he was his #1 choice, originally he'd rather have cassel. Bc he didn't get a 5 year olds reassurance that he was their #1 QB forever and ever and ever he continued crying to the media then asked for a trade. I saw no problem with what he did. I saw no problem with what Favre did. I also saw no problem with what Eli, and John Elway before him, did (bitching their ways out of a team they hadn't taken a snap for). It actually made perfect sense to me that a guy would not want to be a part of a team after essentially being told "you're expendable, we may trade you at any time if the right offer comes along." You're only looking at it from one perspective, I think, and that seems to be the issue here. You're not seeing it from the player's perspective, and you're under the impression that money cures the situation. The thing is, money doesn't cure the situation. It's the same while making $9 million as it is while making $80 thousand. If you don't feel wanted at your job, you leave. The thing is, to leave an NFL team while, there's only two routes: retire, or get traded. He wasn't ready to retire, and they weren't going to trade him at first, so, he did the only thing he could do to get his way: he made it uncomfortable for the team.
What I meant was he was continuing to create a bigger issue by going to the media afterward laying it out on the table and his only real issue is that he didn't hear what he wanted to. Let's not nitpick small words.
I am looking at it from both perspectives and I really think Cutler handled it poorly. In any work environment to go demanding things like that is pretty stupid especially 2 years in. Granted in a real world situation you can just quit, but that's also frowned upon. The general rule of thumb is to deal with it for 6mo-a year (a fb season) and see how things pan out then move forward (And for arguement's sake before someone reminds me he had been around for 2 years, let's just pretend this is a new work environment being there's a new head coach coming in). Bringing in Bus Cook - having him being the person to talk to the Broncos and McDaniels - all of it is comical. He never really gave it a shot with McDaniels - maybe he'd have put up better numbers, sure he ended up being a bust as a coach, but it coulda helped Cutler's development. What we do know is he couldn't stomach that the coach told him how it was - If you want to cry about it, we'll trade you. If you want to man up and prove us wrong we'll keep you. It wasn't like he had competition for the starting position either. It has a big influence on the backlash he got after sunday's game I think too.
The real unnerving thing about it is it's the mentality of a 5 year old not getting a toy they want - he did the only thing he could do to get his way - complain and cry until it happened. He was only a second year player and they are expendable. Orton with 2 first rounders and a third is an absolute steal. Denver really didn't do shit with their picks which overall makes the trade a little worse on their end, but I'd take that deal over and over again without thinking twice.
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On January 26 2011 06:02 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 03:16 Shindou wrote:On January 26 2011 02:59 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On January 25 2011 05:16 Shindou wrote:
It has nothing to do with his manliness you asked me when did he act like a mopey bitch, i was guessing spygate 2 was why you said mcdaniels is an idiot. It's a coaching style that obviously didn't work. It doesn't mean that cutler acted like any more or any less of a baby about the situation. Mcdaniels is a very accomplished QB coach too Drafting Tebow and that WR over Dez Bryant are why McDaniels is an idiot. I really didn't think anyone would try to disagree with that point. Well that's not my point. Cutler handling the situation in Denver like a bitch was. It doesn't matter what degree of a tear, how good he is or anything like that, when you have that kinda history on top of his demeanor the media's going to eat you up. It's not a matter of being right or wrong that's juts how it is. You can't turn away from reporters and start to cry bc you find out that people you probably don't like in the first place are talking shit on you. dude needs to grow up And that's why the media is retarded. Do you really think that if it wasn't Cutler, this would be happening? That PLAYERS would be condemning him when they don't know what injury he has? Hell no. They all saw it and were probably like "hehehe Cutler is such a douche Imma rub it in his face that he's hurt." If it was Peyton Manning or something that got hurt, you'd just see all the players on Twitter saying shit like "Get well soon, Peyton. "
Yeah I do. Any QB who has some kinda leg injury and is seen riding a bike and standing on the sidelines would get eaten alive in any major city. Philly and NY would have murdered him.
It's not retarded of the media they have to speculate - it's how reporters get information. If cutler wants to cry about it he should get a shrink because it's only going to get worse. Look at what happened to derrick anderson
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On January 26 2011 07:22 Shindou wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 05:42 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On January 26 2011 05:04 Shindou wrote:http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/3/16/798798/jay-cutler-asks-for-tradehttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11529663/rssOther stuff in the article aside, it was pretty documented that Cutler wouldn't talk to McDaniels for a while, and whenever he did he needed Bus Cook to be there. When he finally wanted a trade, he had Bus Cook call it in. Was he in the media the whole time? no - I never said that. But when he told them what happened it boiled down to "They didn't tell me I was their number 1 QB and I'm upset." It's not about being Brady or Manning - it's about handling situations. Then he only had one good season, and since then the only thing he's done is beaten the Seahawks. I think it's pretty annoying to any fb fan to have to hear about a young unaccomplished "rising star" get butthurt BC a coach wanted someone else originally and handle it the way he did. It just adds to what happened over the weekend. Actually, that's almost exactly what you said: Sure anyone would be upset about the situation but you're getting paid millions to be a professional athlete. Read what he had to say to reporters afterwards. The whole reason he was upset was because Mcdaniels didn't tell him he was his #1 choice, originally he'd rather have cassel. Bc he didn't get a 5 year olds reassurance that he was their #1 QB forever and ever and ever he continued crying to the media then asked for a trade. I saw no problem with what he did. I saw no problem with what Favre did. I also saw no problem with what Eli, and John Elway before him, did (bitching their ways out of a team they hadn't taken a snap for). It actually made perfect sense to me that a guy would not want to be a part of a team after essentially being told "you're expendable, we may trade you at any time if the right offer comes along." You're only looking at it from one perspective, I think, and that seems to be the issue here. You're not seeing it from the player's perspective, and you're under the impression that money cures the situation. The thing is, money doesn't cure the situation. It's the same while making $9 million as it is while making $80 thousand. If you don't feel wanted at your job, you leave. The thing is, to leave an NFL team while, there's only two routes: retire, or get traded. He wasn't ready to retire, and they weren't going to trade him at first, so, he did the only thing he could do to get his way: he made it uncomfortable for the team. What I meant was he was continuing to create a bigger issue by going to the media afterward laying it out on the table and his only real issue is that he didn't hear what he wanted to. Let's not nitpick small words. I am looking at it from both perspectives and I really think Cutler handled it poorly. In any work environment to go demanding things like that is pretty stupid especially 2 years in. Granted in a real world situation you can just quit, but that's also frowned upon. The general rule of thumb is to deal with it for 6mo-a year (a fb season) and see how things pan out then move forward (And for arguement's sake before someone reminds me he had been around for 2 years, let's just pretend this is a new work environment being there's a new head coach coming in). Bringing in Bus Cook - having him being the person to talk to the Broncos and McDaniels - all of it is comical. He never really gave it a shot with McDaniels - maybe he'd have put up better numbers, sure he ended up being a bust as a coach, but it coulda helped Cutler's development. What we do know is he couldn't stomach that the coach told him how it was - If you want to cry about it, we'll trade you. If you want to man up and prove us wrong we'll keep you. It wasn't like he had competition for the starting position either. It has a big influence on the backlash he got after sunday's game I think too. The real unnerving thing about it is it's the mentality of a 5 year old not getting a toy they want - he did the only thing he could do to get his way - complain and cry until it happened. He was only a second year player and they are expendable. Orton with 2 first rounders and a third is an absolute steal. Denver really didn't do shit with their picks which overall makes the trade a little worse on their end, but I'd take that deal over and over again without thinking twice.
He was entering his fourth season, actually. He joined the Broncos in the 2006 season, and had a mediocre rookie season, for the five games that he played. He then had a questionable second year, but found out he had diabetes during that season, which severely hampered him physically. Then he had a Pro Bowl season in 2008. 2009, McDipshit came in. A fourth year QB is a pretty well established guy.
On January 26 2011 07:27 Shindou wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 06:02 Ferrose wrote:On January 26 2011 03:16 Shindou wrote:On January 26 2011 02:59 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On January 25 2011 05:16 Shindou wrote:
It has nothing to do with his manliness you asked me when did he act like a mopey bitch, i was guessing spygate 2 was why you said mcdaniels is an idiot. It's a coaching style that obviously didn't work. It doesn't mean that cutler acted like any more or any less of a baby about the situation. Mcdaniels is a very accomplished QB coach too Drafting Tebow and that WR over Dez Bryant are why McDaniels is an idiot. I really didn't think anyone would try to disagree with that point. Well that's not my point. Cutler handling the situation in Denver like a bitch was. It doesn't matter what degree of a tear, how good he is or anything like that, when you have that kinda history on top of his demeanor the media's going to eat you up. It's not a matter of being right or wrong that's juts how it is. You can't turn away from reporters and start to cry bc you find out that people you probably don't like in the first place are talking shit on you. dude needs to grow up And that's why the media is retarded. Do you really think that if it wasn't Cutler, this would be happening? That PLAYERS would be condemning him when they don't know what injury he has? Hell no. They all saw it and were probably like "hehehe Cutler is such a douche Imma rub it in his face that he's hurt." If it was Peyton Manning or something that got hurt, you'd just see all the players on Twitter saying shit like "Get well soon, Peyton. " Yeah I do. Any QB who has some kinda leg injury and is seen riding a bike and standing on the sidelines would get eaten alive in any major city. Philly and NY would have murdered him. It's not retarded of the media they have to speculate - it's how reporters get information. If cutler wants to cry about it he should get a shrink because it's only going to get worse. Look at what happened to derrick anderson
See? This is exactly how everyone talks about the guy, when he's done nothing to warrant that sort of speech toward him. "If he wants to cry about it," the only thing Cutler said about the comments was that he didn't have a comment. That's not crying. He hasn't bitched or whined in a single situation except in leaving Denver. His team mates are obviously quite supportive of him; he's friends with many of them off the field. You are doing nothing more than buying into what sports writers are selling to you.
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Ok - fourth year - 2 1/4th year he actually played.
I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco. We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.
At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know. I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [Saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix.
That's a big comment. I'm not buying into what sports are selling me. He made it clear that it was because he didn't get a vote of confidence and throughout the whole process while his agent held his hand.
I really don't want to keep going around in circles I think my point is pretty clear. If you like Cutler and all that that's great. We disagree.
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Damn I had a big post written up, but my computer crashed and my browser didn't restore it. Basically I think a lot of the blame for Chicago's loss goes to Mike Martz. Martz maybe a short term improvement over Chicago's previous OC, but he's not the long term answer for the Bears. People say Chicago's O-Line is terrible, but Martz's offensive has a reputation for murdering QBs on the field, so people need to take that into account. Also Martz's offensives routinely under-utilize the TE. Greg Olsen wasn't a first round pick so he could block guys. Finally the Bears need an elite WR to make a Martz offense really effective. Sure an elite OL and elite WR would make all offenses better, but these two things are pretty much mandatory for a Martz offense to succeed. The Bears lack both, hence why I think they won't be successful in the long run.
Finally Martz's playcalling is retarded. As a head coach I seriously would demote him from being the play-caller on offense. That Flanker Reverse on 3rd down? Stupid.
For as good as Hanie played? Keep him as a backup please. I know a lot of guys saw talent there, and who knows? Maybe he could develop into something decent, but his performance reminded me soooo much of JT O'Sullivan back when he played for the 49ers...
The Culter debacle? I don't want to touch it. I don't think he's turned the corner yet in realizing his full potential, and I'm not sure if he ever will. That said, I don't fault him for sitting out the second half of the game given his injury.
Again these are just my opinions, I'm not a big Bears fan, feel free to disagree with me if you wish.
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On January 26 2011 11:46 nemY wrote:
Damn I had a big post written up, but my computer crashed and my browser didn't restore it. Basically I think a lot of the blame for Chicago's loss goes to Mike Martz. Martz maybe a short term improvement over Chicago's previous OC, but he's not the long term answer for the Bears. People say Chicago's O-Line is terrible, but Martz's offensive has a reputation for murdering QBs on the field, so people need to take that into account. Also Martz's offensives routinely under-utilize the TE. Greg Olsen wasn't a first round pick so he could block guys. Finally the Bears need an elite WR to make a Martz offense really effective. Sure an elite OL and elite WR would make all offenses better, but these two things are pretty much mandatory for a Martz offense to succeed. The Bears lack both, hence why I think they won't be successful in the long run.
Finally Martz's playcalling is retarded. As a head coach I seriously would demote him from being the play-caller on offense. That Flanker Reverse on 3rd down? Stupid.
For as good as Hanie played? Keep him as a backup please. I know a lot of guys saw talent there, and who knows? Maybe he could develop into something decent, but his performance reminded me soooo much of JT O'Sullivan back when he played for the 49ers...
The Culter debacle? I don't want to touch it. I don't think he's turned the corner yet in realizing his full potential, and I'm not sure if he ever will. That said, I don't fault him for sitting out the second half of the game given his injury.
Again these are just my opinions, I'm not a big Bears fan, feel free to disagree with me if you wish.
I think you're pretty much correct. I agree with the comments on Hanie. I think he's a career back up, and played about as well as can be expected of a guy with as little prep time as he had. For the situation he was handed, he played very well; in actuality, he played okay, and made two horrible throws that cost them the game.
That third down call is the worst call I've ever seen in that situation. Still, I think Martz, should he continue to run the offense the way they ran it the second "half" of the season (half = after the bye), then it could work out in the long run. The Bears ran the ball a lot more, and a lot more effectively in the second half of the season, and if Martz were to commit to that sort of balance in the offensive gameplan, I think the sky is the limit for the team. . . should they acquire the necessary pieces to make it a great offense.
I fear that the Bears defense has, at best, three good seasons left, though. So something needs to happen immediately.
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Martz is a good coord if put in the right situation. However, until chitown management realizes that Devin Hester is only useful on returns or running straight down field. All those WR are underwhelming.
Martz needs a very specific set of players for his stuff to work. Forte and Cutler are the only things that fit there. Olsen is a waste in that offense with his skils because TEs are unused. All those WRs are #3s, maybe shitty 2s at best anywhere else.
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IIRC Martz' offense is based on a pretty simple sequence of square routes (most unstoppable route if run right), but that requires
1) an accurate QB
2) good route-runners or pure speed (hence his preference for speed in StL)
3) an offensive line that allows the routes to be run
As a side effect you start seeing some massive underneath routes open up for RB/FB/TE which is why he took advantage of Faulk the way he did.
The problem is that it's hard
1) finding an accurate QB, because most QBs coming out of college aren't
2) everyone wants these
3) everyone would love to have one
which is why you most often see him move to an underdeveloped team and fail due to lack of time and resources given.
Further unfortunate to him is that every time he takes his playbook to a bad team and fails because he's unable to really change it up, his reputation gets a brow-beating.
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So all this Cutler drama aside, I'm starting to get pretty worried that there won't be football next year. There really hasn't been any progress on the CBA, and the date is looming ever closer... There is so much money at stake here, but it's not like this hasn't happened before.
Do you guys think they'll actually have a lockout? If it happens, will we see a USFL style upstart? The NFL has usurped MLB as America's sport, will this drive people back to baseball? To soccer? What will we do without the NFL
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Baseball will probably never regain the level of popularity it once saw. There are so many reasons. . . like the ridiculously long season, and that they want to make it longer. There already is a USFL kind of league--the UFL. Maybe that will gain some popularity if there is a lockout, but I'm very hopeful that there won't be one.
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If there's a lockout I'm firmly of the belief that it'd be because the NFLPA leader is worthless and in over their head.
“Nobody gets strong without fighting,” Smith said. “Nobody stays strong without fighting. Nobody negotiates their way to strength. Nobody talks their way to a good deal. Nobody sits down and just has miraculous things happen.”
This coupled with his incessant ranting about the advisor (a very good one!) the owners hired (why doesn't HE hire one?) leads me to be pessimistic about avoiding a lockout, at the moment. Which is a damn shame because the owners seem (at least publicly) extremely prepared to sit down and negotiate, a stance that Goodell's been repeating.
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Negotiating is really just a question of how much of the shaft goes in the ass of the players.
The NFL and owners are holding firm on 18 games. It's extra time that the dudes beat the piss out of themselves and they'll get no compensation (I'm pretty sure on this). If you just signed a seven year contract and this happens, you'll have played nearly a half a season for free by the time it's done. That's a lot of money for guys.
Plus, there's the whole bit about the pension and health care system being laughable. I'm pretty sure there was something about escrow I heard about, like increasing it?? I am not sure.
but yeah, the owners are willing to sit down because they're the powerbrokers here. The players can make a big show about it and lock out, but the bottom line is the ball is in the owners court because most of these players are too fucking retarded to do anything else if football is out for an extended period of time. And, if evidenced by the Cutler and Cromartie things, there isn't exactly a whole lot of unity there amongst players. Billionare owners will put their egos and spats aside to continue to be filthy rich, because they know how the game works.
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There's nothing the players can do except negotiate anyways, I mean, regardless of how much power they actually have, a lockout doesn't really help them, and usually just leads to a further shafted CBA (see: NHL). What's the point in avoiding the reality and trying to flex your muscles in front of a rifle?
I also kind of find it a shame Rooney's not eligible to be at the table.
Rooney said that he does not favor an 18-game regular season and would be willing to pass up the additional revenue that would go to teams and players. But he noted that he was also against the 1978 shift from 14 regular-season games and six preseason games to 16 regular-season games and four preseason games.
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Check out Mike and Mike's discussion about it
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6060915&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
Totally agree ;x
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On January 27 2011 01:25 Southlight wrote:If there's a lockout I'm firmly of the belief that it'd be because the NFLPA leader is worthless and in over their head. Show nested quote +“Nobody gets strong without fighting,” Smith said. “Nobody stays strong without fighting. Nobody negotiates their way to strength. Nobody talks their way to a good deal. Nobody sits down and just has miraculous things happen.” This coupled with his incessant ranting about the advisor (a very good one!) the owners hired (why doesn't HE hire one?) leads me to be pessimistic about avoiding a lockout, at the moment. Which is a damn shame because the owners seem (at least publicly) extremely prepared to sit down and negotiate, a stance that Goodell's been repeating.
I'm fully convinced that Smith is an idiot who knows nothing about business. Fundamental economic and financial principles seem way over his head.
I recall my business law professor in undergrad almost 10 years ago talking about his time in law school. He said that lawyers back when he was in law school were almost all pol sci majors. There was almost nobody in law school who took business and engineering degrees as their pre-law undergrad major. So you have a bunch of lawyers who know the law and nothing more. Smith sounds like a throwback to those days, an adversarial labor lawyers who is clueless about business and just spoiling for a fight.
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Please sit down before I reveal the horrible news -- there will be no cheerleaders at the Super Bowl. Green Bay and Pittsburgh, the last teams standing, are among the small number of NFL franchises that do not have a professional cheer-babe squad. So brace for no cheerleaders at the Super Bowl. How could this happen? This is America!
Because the Super Bowl is the sole NFL game each season to which both teams bring their cheerleaders, normally one of the treats of attending the final contest is gorgeous, scantily attired, dancing women along both sidelines. Instead, in XII days in Dallas, there will be no cheerleaders at all. How could this happen? This is America!
LMAO.
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On January 27 2011 05:29 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +Please sit down before I reveal the horrible news -- there will be no cheerleaders at the Super Bowl. Green Bay and Pittsburgh, the last teams standing, are among the small number of NFL franchises that do not have a professional cheer-babe squad. So brace for no cheerleaders at the Super Bowl. How could this happen? This is America!
Because the Super Bowl is the sole NFL game each season to which both teams bring their cheerleaders, normally one of the treats of attending the final contest is gorgeous, scantily attired, dancing women along both sidelines. Instead, in XII days in Dallas, there will be no cheerleaders at all. How could this happen? This is America! LMAO.
Easterbrook amuses me. He's far off on some things but actually spot on on others. And some of his running gags are actually funny.
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No cheerleaders? Oh darn. The game is ruined.
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EPT
