NFL Season 2010 - Page 164

On December 22 2010 09:06 KOFgokuon wrote:
hahahahaha holy shit

Eagles don't have to get past the bears
Eagles are gonna win out, jets are gonna beat the bears, giving them the 3 seed, and if the jets don't, then the giants will. They will then lose to either the Giants or the Packers in round one, and the eagles have a clear road to the superbowl. Done and done. Though I'd much prefer to see the giants and the falcons than the packers and the saints >< Always better to play teams taht you've beaten already haha

On December 22 2010 11:39 DTK-m2 wrote:


I would disagree. You can gameplan all you want, but that still doesn't change the fact that he can outrun like ten of the eleven players on any given defense.

On December 22 2010 12:16 KOFgokuon wrote:
right, playing green bay when they'll probably have a playoff spot on the line and probably will have rodgers back will be SO MUCH EASIER for the bears than playing the giants. If anything, making that mistake made my argument weaker, so thanks for correcting me.

In that case, I like the Eagles' chances even more of getting the 2 seed, and then wtf pwning after the bye week.

On December 23 2010 00:45 Southlight wrote:
Tom Brady just passed Peyton Manning in career passer rating; they're so close right now it's not a big deal but I don't think it's happened before:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/kerry_byrne/12/21/tom-brady-peyton-manning/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_sports

Ho ho ho! Here's what TMQ has asked Santa to leave each NFL team under its tree for Christmas morning:

Arizona -- A time machine to return to 2008.

Atlanta -- An identity. The Falcons are on a blazing 15-2 run, yet are known for what, exactly?

Baltimore -- A TCU victory in the Rose Bowl Game presented by Vizio. This would be a good omen for football players who wear purple.

Buffalo -- A complete set of jerseys from the 1990s Super Bowl run. It's no coincidence the Bills have not made the playoffs since switching to the league's ugliest uniforms.

Carolina -- Quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, tight ends, offensive linemen, defensive linemen, linebackers, defensive backs, kickers and coaches. That's all the Panthers need.

Chicago -- A game in Florida.

Cincinnati -- TV shows for the other 50 players. A mere three Bengals players have their own television shows.

Cleveland -- A dawg who can play football: "Fetch the pass!" Ideal marketing gimmick.

Dallas -- A much larger state than Texas, to create room for Jerry Jones' ego.

Denver -- A "Fringe"-inspired alternate universe in which the past two years didn't happen.

Detroit -- A Rand McNally road atlas with all NFL cities except Detroit missing. If the Lions can't find the road games, they won't have to play them.

Green Bay -- A water slide so Aaron Rodgers can practice sliding.

Houston -- The defense of any Division III college team. It'd be an improvement.

Indianapolis -- Instant miracle cure for Dallas Clark.

Jacksonville -- Every game ends with a 59-yard field goal attempt.

Jersey/A -- Cheer-babes. The New York City area has hundreds of glamorous, leggy young women with dance training who are looking for a break. How about it, G-Men?

Jersey/B -- A recording of Ronald Reagan saying, "Tear down this wall!"

Kansas City -- A throwback weekend in which the rules of 1905 are used: Only rushing allowed.

Miami -- League approval to stage all games on the road.

Minnesota -- Brett Favre plays until eligible for membership in AARP.

New England -- More offensive linemen to return kicks.

New Orleans -- Just a dull, predictable, monotonous repetition of last season's result.

Philadelphia -- DeSean Jackson cast as the lead in a revival of the musical "Show Boat."

Pittsburgh -- The investment interest on all NFL fines paid this season.

Oakland -- The "Hawaii Five-O" cast to investigate the Raiders' penalties.

San Diego -- Special teams that are merely below average.

San Francisco -- Oakleys, so Mike Singletary looks better when he wears dark glasses at night.

Seattle -- No restrictions on phone calls, official visits and scholarships when Pete Carroll goes recruiting in the upcoming free-agency period.

St. Louis -- The NFC West becomes a BCS automatic qualifier.

Tampa -- A 2011 schedule consisting entirely of losing teams.

Tennessee -- Someone willing to trade for Randy Moss.

Washington -- Anyone chosen from the D.C. phone book at random to replace Dan Snyder as owner.

On December 23 2010 01:00 Hawk wrote:


There's good arguments for either side there, but that moron does neither justice.

'volume only matters in fantasy football' 'meaningless volume stats'

fucking really?? Shut the fuck up you moron. God, I hate sports columnists.

On December 23 2010 02:24 Hawk wrote:
brady blows away everyone for pretty much every important passer stat vick's also got a much better supporting cast (welker is consistent, but doesnt even have a fraction of the raw talent that Jackson oozes) and his back up, while possessing a different skillset, has demonstrated in the past and this season, that he has ability to play QB pretty damn good as well.

MVP means your that athlete's play that season is irreplaceable. Kolb had two very, very good games this season, and the other two were decent enough. That's hardly a shit team without Vick. I don't even know who Brady's back up is, and I'm quite sure that he wouldn't be going off on teams for 300 yards every other week. The dude has more games above 120 rating than he does games under 100—that is fucking insane

On December 22 2010 11:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:


It's not better to play a division opponent three times in a single season. The Bears already played the Giants, they can't lose to them again. Suckchez will have to actually move the ball with that abysmal offense to beat the Bears. Eagles are fucked.



To add to that, the Giants had game planned perfectly against him, but his athletic ability took over and they got rolled in the fourth because of it.

On December 23 2010 04:05 Ace wrote:


Actually the Giants gameplan in the 4th quarter was absolute trash. Instead of just chilling and playing it safe with a 3TD lead they tried to blitz OVER AND OVER and got burned for it on big plays. Take away the big play and force Vick to move the chains and they win.

As for the Giants' coaching: Has any coaching staff ever had a worse quarter? Ahead 31-10 with eight minutes remaining against the top big-play combination the NFL -- Michael Vick and Jackson -- if the Giants had gone to backed-off shell coverage and forced the Nesharim to nickel-and-dime their way down the field, the clock would have run out on any comeback. Instead, Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell ordered furious blitzing, and coach Tom Coughlin did not overrule him.

With the Eagles trailing 31-10, first-and-10 on their 35 with 7:43 remaining, Fewell called a safety blitz, resulting in a 65-yard touchdown pass to Brent Celek. On the play, deep safety Kenny Phillips whiffed so badly that he air tackled. The morning of the game, The New York Times ran an article lavishly praising the Giants' secondary -- guess those players read the article. "We're never out of position," Phillips was quoted as boasting. On a first-half touchdown pass to Jeremy Maclin, the Giants were so out of position that no one covered Maclin. But the main point: Why safety blitz with a three-touchdown lead and less than eight minutes? Unless the plan was to humiliate the Eagles and then boast to the New York media. Humiliating an opponent is totally irrelevant; keep your focus on winning.

Vick's two big scrambles in the fourth quarter, for 35 and 33 yards, came against blitzes. Yes, the Giants sacked Vick twice in the first half on blitzes, but early in the contest, this tactic caught the Eagles by surprise. At halftime, they adjusted. Calling blitzes when protecting a late lead was like sending Vick an engraved invitation to make big plays rather than forcing him to nickel-and-dime: "Dear Mr. Vick, please do us the honor of sprinting toward our end zone." Leading 31-24, the Giants had Philadelphia facing third-and-10 on its 12-yard line with 2:50 remaining and the Eagles out of timeouts. Play coverage! Giants coaches called a preposterous seven-man blitz, and Vick simply ran outside around the blitz for 33 yards. This was the worst defensive call TMQ has ever seen. Jersey/A has a highly rated passing defense. Make Vick try to throw against a shell; don't megablitz and offer a free long gain.

Then there was the onside. Philadelphia had pulled within 31-17 and was kicking off with 7:28 remaining. This is an obvious onside kick situation. Not only did the Giants fail to deploy their hands team -- it was worse. The Giants had only five players on the receiving front and lined them up 15 yards off the ball. The onside needs to go only 10 yards, which is where the receivers almost always place their front line. Yet the Giants put their front line 15 yards off the ball, and as the onside bounced, no one from Jersey/A was even attempting to field the kick. It was worse! The five Giants players who lined up 15 yards off began to retreat as the Philadelphia kicker approached the ball.

This goes beyond awful to atrocious -- a middle school team wouldn't make such a boneheaded blunder. And Jersey/A has not one but two special-teams specialists: Tom Quinn, whose title is not special-teams coach but "special teams coordinator," and Tom McGaughey, whose title is "assistant special teams coordinator." Two special-teams "coordinators" and neither of them knew to position their charges for an onside kick when the opponent trails by two touchdowns late? What do the Giants' two special-teams coaches do all day?

In the news conference after the debacle, Coughlin first said, "We didn't put our hands team in there, no. There were still seven and a half minutes to go and they were down two scores, so we didn't think it was necessary to do that at that time." For a moment, that seemed like a refreshing case of the coach taking the blame. But then Coughlin said, "All people up front, again, were told to watch out for the onside kick." Does anyone seriously believe that all five special-teamers up front decided on their own to defy orders and line up too deep, then retreat, rather than watch for an onside kick? Coughlin obviously was trying to shift blame from the coaches to the players, especially special-teamers, who are expendable.

Then the punt. The reason no one had ever won an NFL game on a final-play punt return is that when teams must punt on the final play of a half, they punt out of bounds. But this wasn't necessarily the final play; 12 seconds remained as the Giants lined up at their 29. It's hard to punt for both distance and direction. If it were easy, every punter would always punt long and out of bounds. Monday night, when Minnesota punted out of bounds to avoid Devin Hester, the deliberate out-of-bounds punts averaged 30 yards. Matt Dodge was trying for a long, out-of-bounds punt and botched it. As he waited in punt formation for officials to signal the ready-to-play, Dodge heard the referee announce he was putting 2 seconds back on the clock and knew that meant the kick had to have some distance. Suppose he punted a 25-yarder out of bounds, giving Philadelphia possession at midfield, and Vick hit one sidelines completion, then Philadelphia launched the winning field goal on the final snap. Today, Giants faithful would be lamenting: Why didn't that punter boom it down the middle?

So the punter botched the play, but he wasn't the only one. The front half of the Giants' coverage team overran Jackson. He's the league's fastest player; the only thing that can go wrong is a long return. Yet the Giants overran him and didn't have a "safe punt" called, on which two guys hang back deep. What do those two Jersey/A special-teams coaches do all day?

As Jackson entered the end zone, Coughlin ran onto the field to scream at Dodge. OK, he had made a mistake. He was hardly the only Giants player or coach to make a bad mistake during the meltdown. But he's a rookie punter, the most expendable guy on the roster -- so Coughlin screamed at him at center field to make sure everyone got the message that the rookie punter, not any highly paid coach, was to blame.

What a disgusting low point -- not that the Giants were outperformed; it's a 60-minute contest, and the Eagles owned the final eight minutes. The disgusting low was that the coaches screwed up and the head coach publicly shifted blame to the team's lowest-status member rather than take responsibility like a man.