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phungus420
Profile Joined October 2008
United States179 Posts
May 24 2011 10:30 GMT
#3961
Not sure if you all follow MLS here, but Portland Timbers are 5-0 at home, can't seem to win a roadgame though.
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
May 24 2011 17:33 GMT
#3962
On May 24 2011 19:30 phungus420 wrote:
Not sure if you all follow MLS here, but Portland Timbers are 5-0 at home, can't seem to win a roadgame though.


went to a whitecaps game recently, had the unfortunate distinction of being during a canucks game so half the stadium was empty and the half that was there were streaming the hockey game on their iphones D:

decently impressed with the atmosphere though, definitely better than i was expecting, will probably go more!
Spinfusor
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 14:16:21
May 25 2011 14:14 GMT
#3963
Not too pleased with the way Aguero to RM rumors are heating up. It's going to be extremely disappointing if one of Benzema/Higuain gets shafted for him and I can't see him adding the tactical variety of someone like Adebayor.

This summer's looking like an embarrassing one...

EDIT: Not to mention Coentrao rumors...
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
May 26 2011 12:48 GMT
#3964
On May 24 2011 08:45 uberMatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 23:09 Klive5ive wrote:
On May 23 2011 05:09 sixfour wrote:
On May 23 2011 05:07 Klive5ive wrote:
Sad for Blackpool :/
Lol at Westham.

Birmingham in the Europa league next year despite being releagated it pretty funny.


Blackpool as well apparently, through the fair play system. Would have been Fulham, but Gera's cameo red card messed it up for them

Yeah I heard that too and assumed it was just a mistake.

I thought that England got the spot because our teams were fair in European competitions; it makes absolutely no sense to give it to a random team across Europe!
The standard of refereeing is totally different for a start and then surely you would give the place to the best team not just because they don't get cards.


i'm pretty sure(although wikipedia is unclear) that the fair play spots go to the 3 countries with the best fair play record in europe, and the team that gets the spot from each country is decided from the domestic fair play table

and i mean, it's one spot in the /first/ qualifying round of the europa league, it's really not that big of a deal :o

Ah thanks for clarifying that makes more sense now.
So the fairplay league gives the spot to the most fairplay Country and then they pass it to the most fairplay team in their top league.
You are right it is not really a big deal. In fact there's talk in England of it even being a disadvantage for these relegation battling teams as it can distract them from more important task.
But still I would like to see it go to Everton or someone like that who could actually put up a fight.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
May 26 2011 13:19 GMT
#3965
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fulham-win-european-place/news/anzeigen_63841.html what the hell? i'm not sure how reliable my source is, it's mainly a site for transfer rumours but this seems confirmed. Maybe a referee changed a decision or something? I know Tevez and Berbatov had goals taken from their end tally because of bad decisions.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
May 26 2011 13:34 GMT
#3966
what seems to be the problem? Uefa always gives 3 Europa League spots for the top 3 countrys in the Uefa fair play ranking
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
May 26 2011 14:09 GMT
#3967
There is no problem, it's just funny that championship teams will be in the Europa league (If thats how it plays out, Portsmouth weren't allowed in last year)
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
May 26 2011 21:17 GMT
#3968
Looks like Fulham has pipped Blackpool to it by one fair play point
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 22:23:51
May 26 2011 22:21 GMT
#3969
Anyone see the claims of bribery and corruption about FIFA?

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6586453/fifa-investigates-mohamed-bin-hammam-jack-warner-bribery

ZURICH -- One week before FIFA's presidential election, a new bribery scandal erupted that could destroy the candidacy of Sepp Blatter's only rival and punish one of the federation's longtime power brokers.

FIFA on Wednesday summoned Asian Football Confederation leader Mohamed bin Hammam and FIFA vice president Jack Warner to an ethics hearing Sunday to face allegations of corruption during the Qatari official's campaign visit to Trinidad two weeks ago. The timing and the source of the allegations, longtime Warner ally Chuck Blazer of the United States, gives them a gravity not seen with FIFA's other scandals.

Bin Hammam hopes to end Blatter's 13-year presidency in a June 1 vote of FIFA's 208 national members. But he could wind up barred from the vote in Zurich if the ethics panel decides to provisionally suspend him from all soccer duties while it prepares its case -- leaving the 75-year-old Blatter clear to claim a fourth and final four-year term atop the governing body for the world's most popular sport.

Bin Hammam denied wrongdoing and suggested, on "a difficult and painful day for me," that the accusations were instigated by Blatter's camp.

"This move is little more than a tactic being used by those who have no confidence in their own ability to emerge successfully from the FIFA presidential election," bin Hammam wrote in a statement published on his official website.

The allegations mark a stunning reversal of fortune for bin Hammam, who only six months ago helped guide his native Qatar to the 2022 World Cup hosting rights in another FIFA election marked by intrigue and accusation. FIFA is already examining allegations leveled in England that Qatar paid two FIFA executive committee members $1.5 million bribes for their support.

But unlike previous FIFA scandals, the allegations unveiled Wednesday did not come from leaked documents or undercover stings by the media. They came from Blazer, one of FIFA's own.

Blazer is general secretary of CONCACAF, the Confederation of North, Central America and Caribbean Association Football, and has served on FIFA's executive committee for 15 years. Bin Hammam is also a member of the executive committee, and Warner is a FIFA vice president and CONCACAF president.

FIFA said the bribery allegations are related to bin Hammam's meeting with 25 Caribbean soccer leaders on May 10-11 in Warner's native Trinidad to lobby support for his candidacy. According to The Daily Telegraph, Caribbean Football Union members were offered $40,000 in exchange for their votes in the upcoming election.

"We filed a comprehensive file covering what we believe to be various types of violations," Blazer said when reached Wednesday by The Associated Press, declining further comment.

The investigation was conducted by John P. Collins, a former federal prosecutor whose clients now include CONCACAF. Collins is also a member of FIFA's legal committee.

"I conducted the investigation and prepared the report," Collins said, adding that he could not give details on the allegations or what was found during the investigation.

Warner said he was "unaware of the particulars" of FIFA's investigation, and also questioned why the case was made public now.

"It is interesting to note the timing of these allegations and the hearing scheduled days before the FIFA presidential elections," Warner said in a statement.

The alleged plot puts FIFA's reputation for corruption in a harsher spotlight than ever before.

Bin Hammam and Warner have served a total of 43 years in FIFA's high command and, as confederation bosses, represent 81 soccer nations. Both were re-elected unopposed to four-year terms this year. They face lengthy suspensions from all football duties if bribery allegations are proven.

Caribbean Football Union officials Debbie Minguell and Jason Sylvester also are being investigated, FIFA said.

The scandal is not necessarily a crisis for Blatter, the FIFA president, on whose watch so many financial, ticket scalping and vote-trading allegations have been made. Blatter has not been personally connected to impropriety, and his opponent's problems could yet accelerate the anti-corruption reforms he has promised during the campaign.

The ethics probe was ordered by FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke after studying Blazer's report on the meeting in Trinidad.

Bin Hammam helped organize the hastily arranged meeting after he was unable to attend the annual CONCACAF congress one week earlier in Miami. The 62-year-old Qatari was denied a visa to enter the U.S., despite traveling on a diplomatic passport, and his absence allowed Blatter to lobby for votes in Miami unchallenged.

Warner has long been a key powerbroker in FIFA politics, and his backing was seen as vital to bin Hammam's hopes. Blatter has been endorsed by confederation leaders in Africa, Europe, Oceania and South America.

Warner's 35-member confederation was expected to back a candidate next Monday in Zurich at a meeting that might proceed without its president.

But bin Hammam and Warner could both find themselves on the sidelines for the election. When two FIFA executive committee members were accused of corruption before the December vote for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, the ethics panel imposed provisional suspensions on both so it would have time to build cases against them.

Three weeks later, Amos Adamu got a three-year ban for seeking bribes. Reynald Temarii was suspended for one year.

"I am confident that there is no charge to answer and that I will be free to stand ... as originally planned," bin Hammam wrote. "If there is even the slightest justice in the world, these allegations will vanish in the wind."

On Wednesday, a whistleblower from the Qatar bid had been scheduled to submit evidence to Valcke and FIFA legal director Marco Villiger in Zurich. African FIFA officials Issa Hayatou and Jacques Anouma have denied pocketing bribes.

However, FIFA said the whistleblower "decided not to attend the meeting" based on legal advice.

FIFA is also weighing action against Warner, and three more FIFA executive colleagues, who have been accused of unethical behavior in a British lawmakers' hearing this month.

The former head of England's failed 2018 World Cup bid, David Triesman, alleged the 68-year-old Trinidad government minister asked for money to build an education center and buy 2010 World Cup broadcast rights for Haiti. Warner denied the allegation.


FIFA is a corrupt joke. Is anyone really surprised? One of there own comes out and releases evidence of corruption against one of the members running against Blatter. Election time is coming soon.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
May 26 2011 23:45 GMT
#3970
On May 26 2011 22:19 Pads wrote:
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fulham-win-european-place/news/anzeigen_63841.html what the hell? i'm not sure how reliable my source is, it's mainly a site for transfer rumours but this seems confirmed. Maybe a referee changed a decision or something? I know Tevez and Berbatov had goals taken from their end tally because of bad decisions.


the fair play rule is made up of a combination of 'number of yellow and red cards' rating as well as 'respect towards fans/officials' rating that is arbitrarily decided by observers after each game, that's why the decision came out so long after the final game
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
May 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#3971
Blatter knew all about the corruption in FIFA, and surrounding the Qatar vote. Bin Hammam is likely involved right up to his neck, and Blatter is hanging him out to dry in an effort to stifle his bid in the upcoming election, but also to distance himself from the corruption. Blatter has been accused so many times now, and every time he has been able to wriggle free and secure himself in comfort. The man is a leech on the game. Unfortunately, it's a case of knowing the game is crooked, but it's the only one in town.
You live the life you choose.
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 00:09:16
May 27 2011 00:07 GMT
#3972
Nice interview with robin van persie and his determination to become the best.
Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:

(click on cc at the start to translate)
to watch the goals you can watch the dutch version they are broadcasted there.
Are you human?
Fojji
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom217 Posts
May 27 2011 00:41 GMT
#3973
Gooooo Man UTD!
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
May 27 2011 01:14 GMT
#3974
I'm really torn about who to support in the game. On the one hand we have a British team against the best team in the world, a Spanish team. National pride demands I support my compatriots. On the other hand we have a team barely deserving of anything led by a megalomaniac and controlled by Americans who have shifted crippling debts on them in an effort to deal with their own debts playing a team so monumentally boring in its efforts to keep the ball, though admittedly capable of brilliance, filled with a bunch of whining idiots who will roll over multiple times every time they are tackled, will surround the ref to force him to decide their way and will try every little trick in their gamesmanship book.

Close call.
You live the life you choose.
DaCheF
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
May 27 2011 21:44 GMT
#3975
So the Championship finals are tomorrow. Man U vs Barca. I wanna watch it with some soccer fans in the city tomorrow and get trashed. You guys know a bar in the new york city were they will be a gathering of soccer fanatics? Barca all the way btw XD.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
May 27 2011 21:47 GMT
#3976
Also, Blatter is now under investigation.

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6598292/fifa-places-president-sepp-blatter-investigation
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
May 28 2011 00:11 GMT
#3977
On May 28 2011 06:44 DaCheF wrote:
So the Championship finals are tomorrow. Man U vs Barca. I wanna watch it with some soccer fans in the city tomorrow and get trashed. You guys know a bar in the new york city were they will be a gathering of soccer fanatics? Barca all the way btw XD.


oh god i hope this post isn't real
Baz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom289 Posts
May 28 2011 00:34 GMT
#3978
On May 28 2011 06:47 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Also, Blatter is now under investigation.

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6598292/fifa-places-president-sepp-blatter-investigation


I read this the other day and I am really pleased, I can't stand the man, I hope he is found guilty of corruption charges and removed from Fifa. It is largely down to him that football, despite being perhaps the world's most popular game, is still way behind most sports in terms of technology, respect for referees, sportsmanship etc.
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
May 30 2011 11:29 GMT
#3979
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13592684.stm

And there goes Bin Hammam. The whole thing stinks. It's fairly obvious the entire organisation is corrupt, and they've been giving each other 'gifts' and 'presents' for years. It's a mens club, they've been able to live as they want anywhere in the world at other people's expense. Now Blatter has been trying to distance himself from it all (found not guilty by his own court, peopled by his own men. Imagine that) he is hanging them out to dry. Is it any wonder Warner is striking back?


Yet the vote will continue on Wednesday. Sorry, ushering in ceremony, since Blatter is the only one running and so is a shoe-in. There is no way he had no idea about the bought world cup, but that is the claim. Now it may turn out that Blatter can be implicated, but what does that mean? Nothing, really. FIFA is the only organisation, unless national and regional FAs pull away. Qatar bought the world cup - I wonder if they will re-vote? I would doubt it. But questions are being asked. Australia is asking for the money spent on the campaign back, as well they should. Nobody could have beaten Qatar, which even FIFA admitted was one of the weaker bids, because they had bought the votes. Will they get the money back? Will they re-vote? Will they hell.
You live the life you choose.
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
May 30 2011 11:34 GMT
#3980
On May 24 2011 19:30 phungus420 wrote:
Not sure if you all follow MLS here, but Portland Timbers are 5-0 at home, can't seem to win a roadgame though.

Not undefeated at home anymore, you must have jinxed it
It's easier not to.
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