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ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
April 20 2015 19:00 GMT
#19241
Started playing this game 2 days ago.. holy cow i'm so afraid of dying my reactions to anything that moves are priceless.
Yes im
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 20 2015 19:02 GMT
#19242
honestly, i dont understand people who play hc. i have disconnected from d3 like half a dozen times in teh last two days in the middle of high level rifts. i would quit the game if i ever lost a player due to a disconnect, and cancel uverse, which is a piece of shit, but still better than comcast.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
April 20 2015 19:03 GMT
#19243
On April 20 2015 11:02 Nyxisto wrote:
A question regarding my weapon, these are my two choices right now:

[image loading]

The stats on the Faithful Memory are pretty great but Scourge has the explosion secondary which seems pretty op.



thanks for your post.. i started diablo like 3 days ago and with a new hardcore crusader char yesterday and already have 4 pieces of the Roland's set. I guess i got lucky
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 20 2015 19:03 GMT
#19244
On April 21 2015 02:38 crms wrote:
dude, you're so right. I wish they would make barb tornados 'invisible' like they do other players pets/summons/etc., that would be great. No clue if that's even possible though.

we were all griping about that.
my friend that plays the barb tells us "yea i can't see shit most of the time either whatever"

at least change the color of the tornadoes or something if you can't make them transparent.

On April 21 2015 03:06 BluzMan wrote:
I'm pretty certain I ripped another guy with ball lightning and Sokahr the Keywarden once. Took me a while to realize why that one mob procs my passive so often. HC if dark and full of terrors.

Comparing HC procs to SC is kinda clueless. It's very easy to die after the proc (more on some classes than others though) so anyone that can proc you is very high risk. For instance, sader proc just makes him invincible and gives life on kill, but does not restore any HP, so if there's nothing to kill in the vicinity (say, you're fighting a Rift Guardian) and you can't run away in time, anything can one-shot you as soon as it wears off. Wizards get the worst with Unstable Anomaly which is so useless it's almost not worth taking.

think wd by far have the best escapes and cheat deaths in the game.
definitely would still take the cheat death on wiz even if it completely sucks. i'm not sure how it's possible to push higher gr without the 2p firebird res which really gimps your damage.
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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
April 20 2015 19:08 GMT
#19245
Well... There are the pauldrons of the skeleton king...
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
April 20 2015 19:40 GMT
#19246
On April 21 2015 04:03 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 11:02 Nyxisto wrote:
A question regarding my weapon, these are my two choices right now:

[image loading]

The stats on the Faithful Memory are pretty great but Scourge has the explosion secondary which seems pretty op.



thanks for your post.. i started diablo like 3 days ago and with a new hardcore crusader char yesterday and already have 4 pieces of the Roland's set. I guess i got lucky


I havent played the new expansion even but, is it normal to get to max level in like 3 days like u did?
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
April 20 2015 19:44 GMT
#19247
Yes. Leveling is sick fast.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
April 20 2015 19:50 GMT
#19248
Whats best for a DH now? I only play HC but, like i said havent even bought the expansion. But 2x 1hander? 2hander with quiver?
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
April 20 2015 19:59 GMT
#19249
I don't play DH or even HC, but my clan mates all use the new Unhallowed Essence set, which has some synergy with the Dead Man's Legacy quiver, so I'm guessing that's the best.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 20 2015 20:21 GMT
#19250
UE does so much damage it's actually insane
my friend with a 1h crossbow and f/r does 900m crits, and this is without dml

number wise it's not too impressive until you realize he attacks like 2.3 times per second
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 20:46:26
April 20 2015 20:45 GMT
#19251
My main DH is using a 2h bow and dead mans legacy. I use the Unhallowed Essence set and focus/restraint combo. The damage is pretty absurd but theoretically, M6 should push further due to the nature of the builds. Most DH are playing UE right now because it's the new set and a breathe of fresh air from playing M6 for the last year or so.

Ideally this build would use a hard hitting, slow crossbow, I just haven't found one. Overall, UE is a really fun build that opens up mid tier grifts as soon as you get 6 pc. The damage is quite absurd, I 1 shot elite packs in t6 and even in 30-40, can clear elite packs before I realize they're even there sometimes. As andyrau says, you crit for like 500-1bn and if the mob is under 50% it hits twice, so once RG or packs are below 50% they basically evaporate.

I have another DH that I only use for T6/bounties etc., that uses 2x 1H crossbows and 6pc Natalyas to do the DH version of Barb's 'spin to win' and it's pretty fun.
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CygNus X-1
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada169 Posts
April 20 2015 21:12 GMT
#19252
Question: What is the point of gear grinding when there is no PvP?
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 20 2015 21:16 GMT
#19253
On April 21 2015 06:12 CygNus X-1 wrote:
Question: What is the point of gear grinding when there is no PvP?

Greater Rift Leader Boards or Personal Progression, I suppose. I was an avid d2 pvper but I don't think that aspect of the game is ever coming back at this point. You'll find joy in what is available or you'll play something else.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 20 2015 21:17 GMT
#19254
On April 21 2015 06:12 CygNus X-1 wrote:
Question: What is the point of gear grinding when there is no PvP?


Push higher grifts would seem to be the primary answer to this question.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 20 2015 22:08 GMT
#19255
On April 21 2015 06:12 CygNus X-1 wrote:
Question: What is the point of gear grinding when there is no PvP?

having the best gear.

back in vanilla d3 there wasn't even gr or paragon levels. people still paid thousands for a single bis weapon
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 00:56:29
April 21 2015 00:54 GMT
#19256
On April 21 2015 03:08 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 03:04 Volband wrote:
Anyone who's not yet in T6/Grift1,000,000+ beast mode yet in EU want to party? I'd try it, but too afraid of pub games, I'm not even sure how could I customize what games I'm joining. D2 was so much easier in this regards. Also, having clans is awesome, but with the interactions being limited, it's pretty hard to meet people. In D2 you were bound to get to know a few guys from the common lobby, but now all I'm seeing is the occasional general chat pop-up with "s1 boost me pls, have key".

I'm playing in T4 and not sure yet what my Grift peak is, but it should be around 25~.

On April 20 2015 08:20 BluzMan wrote:
On April 20 2015 06:21 Volband wrote:
What do you think I should gamble for here? (I have 970k dmg)

I have:
- Boots and gloves from the Roland's set
- Helm, chest armor, shoulder for the Akkhan set
- The Final Witness as an alt. shield,
- Angel Hair Braid, which look awesome, but I just can't incorporate into a normal build. Only blessed hammer seems to be a good fit with it, but no matter how I mess around, I'm always more efficent with just 0-24 slashing everybody.
- Puzzle Ring makes my head hurt, but haven't found a better ring, despite getting quite a few. I could also reroll the attack speed on it for crit chance or crit damage, but I'll wait, because if you suggest to roll a new ring, it'd be a waste.
- Maximus, but it deals less damage than this super-boring (though cool looking) Grandfather.

I know I should probably have at least one skill that uses wrath, but slash just outperforms everything with my current gear . I don't even need Iron Skin that much, and bombardbent is just for fun.


There are two viable ways to build a crusader and one of them is 6-piece Roland (using Shield Bash, or, more rarely, Sweep Attack as the damage skill, with Piro Marella or Denial as the shield), the other being 6-piece Akkhan combined with lots of CDR and using some kind of skill that is too expensive to use outside of the 50% wrath cost reduction (most typically Blade of Prophecy combined with Frydehr's Wrath shield for a Condemn build, but there are also builds around Heaven's Fury and Phalanx). Furthermore, Akkhan comes with an added bonus of an almost permanent 150% armor buff from Prophet which is huge. Building an efficient crusader without a 6-piece bonus of any of those two sets is impossible, you will just feel helpless watching people breeze through T6. Sadly, there's no way to make Blessed Hammer work for a crusader just yet, at least as far as I know. Nor is there a viable way to build a crusader without any full sets. A quick look at Roland's full set bonus and you will see that on paper it multiplies your DPS by a factor of 15 (!) on full stacks. It kinda pigeonholes you into using it, but there's no way around that, anything else will be inefficient. Akkhan is close, but a bit more subtle and harder to build imo.

So, first you should set your mind on your set of choice (flavor of the month is Roland because it's new, but it's quite cool too), then your build and realize what items you need. Gambling for jewelry is highly impractical due to both the costs and the abundance of options (even if you get a legendary amulet at the ridiculous 100 shard cost, there's 19 to choose from, gl on getting the one you want). Gambling for weapons is close behind if not ahead of that in futility - the chances you get the legendary you need are extremely slim already, and it also needs to be ancient. Not that you shouldn't try, but it's better to get the easier slots covered first. So, if your expected build contains something other than jewelry/weapons, get it. Shield Bash users should gamble bracers, Condemn, Sweep Attack and Phalanx should gamble shields. There are no belts that really make crusaders jump to the next power level, so I wouldn't bother with those. The most obvious thing to gamble though is the set pieces you're missing, then, once you get them, their ancient versions. If you're reliant on CDR, take a closer look on the head slot to get the Broken Crown helm that doubles the effect of diamonds (or any other gem, but diamonds are the only gems worth it), relying on RoRG to keep the set bonus. If you're into fire damage, try to maybe gamble a Cindercoat instead of your respective set chest armor.

Also, you will probably get a significant sheet damage increase if you swap out the ruby in your weapon for an emerald.

Thanks! I really hoped there would be more than two viable builds, but oh well.

I'm not sure if I should keep playing grifts one level at a time, or try to make some of my lgems to 25. Higher grifts doesn't have a better legendary/set drop ratio, just more bloodshards/exp/gold, right?


This is the scaling table, can maybe help you figure out what grift you can complete. GR25 is a little bit easier than t6 (not much, its basically equal) and everything after gets harder according to the chart below.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That table is nice!
Would it be easy for you to make a plot of it? Maybe log-scale? Maybe grey horizontal lines at the different difficulty levels?

In short, it seems like it is a bit less than 2x the damage every 5 GR levels, and a bit more than 2x the health every 5 GR levels.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 21 2015 01:13 GMT
#19257
On April 21 2015 09:54 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 03:08 crms wrote:
On April 21 2015 03:04 Volband wrote:
Anyone who's not yet in T6/Grift1,000,000+ beast mode yet in EU want to party? I'd try it, but too afraid of pub games, I'm not even sure how could I customize what games I'm joining. D2 was so much easier in this regards. Also, having clans is awesome, but with the interactions being limited, it's pretty hard to meet people. In D2 you were bound to get to know a few guys from the common lobby, but now all I'm seeing is the occasional general chat pop-up with "s1 boost me pls, have key".

I'm playing in T4 and not sure yet what my Grift peak is, but it should be around 25~.

On April 20 2015 08:20 BluzMan wrote:
On April 20 2015 06:21 Volband wrote:
What do you think I should gamble for here? (I have 970k dmg)

I have:
- Boots and gloves from the Roland's set
- Helm, chest armor, shoulder for the Akkhan set
- The Final Witness as an alt. shield,
- Angel Hair Braid, which look awesome, but I just can't incorporate into a normal build. Only blessed hammer seems to be a good fit with it, but no matter how I mess around, I'm always more efficent with just 0-24 slashing everybody.
- Puzzle Ring makes my head hurt, but haven't found a better ring, despite getting quite a few. I could also reroll the attack speed on it for crit chance or crit damage, but I'll wait, because if you suggest to roll a new ring, it'd be a waste.
- Maximus, but it deals less damage than this super-boring (though cool looking) Grandfather.

I know I should probably have at least one skill that uses wrath, but slash just outperforms everything with my current gear . I don't even need Iron Skin that much, and bombardbent is just for fun.


There are two viable ways to build a crusader and one of them is 6-piece Roland (using Shield Bash, or, more rarely, Sweep Attack as the damage skill, with Piro Marella or Denial as the shield), the other being 6-piece Akkhan combined with lots of CDR and using some kind of skill that is too expensive to use outside of the 50% wrath cost reduction (most typically Blade of Prophecy combined with Frydehr's Wrath shield for a Condemn build, but there are also builds around Heaven's Fury and Phalanx). Furthermore, Akkhan comes with an added bonus of an almost permanent 150% armor buff from Prophet which is huge. Building an efficient crusader without a 6-piece bonus of any of those two sets is impossible, you will just feel helpless watching people breeze through T6. Sadly, there's no way to make Blessed Hammer work for a crusader just yet, at least as far as I know. Nor is there a viable way to build a crusader without any full sets. A quick look at Roland's full set bonus and you will see that on paper it multiplies your DPS by a factor of 15 (!) on full stacks. It kinda pigeonholes you into using it, but there's no way around that, anything else will be inefficient. Akkhan is close, but a bit more subtle and harder to build imo.

So, first you should set your mind on your set of choice (flavor of the month is Roland because it's new, but it's quite cool too), then your build and realize what items you need. Gambling for jewelry is highly impractical due to both the costs and the abundance of options (even if you get a legendary amulet at the ridiculous 100 shard cost, there's 19 to choose from, gl on getting the one you want). Gambling for weapons is close behind if not ahead of that in futility - the chances you get the legendary you need are extremely slim already, and it also needs to be ancient. Not that you shouldn't try, but it's better to get the easier slots covered first. So, if your expected build contains something other than jewelry/weapons, get it. Shield Bash users should gamble bracers, Condemn, Sweep Attack and Phalanx should gamble shields. There are no belts that really make crusaders jump to the next power level, so I wouldn't bother with those. The most obvious thing to gamble though is the set pieces you're missing, then, once you get them, their ancient versions. If you're reliant on CDR, take a closer look on the head slot to get the Broken Crown helm that doubles the effect of diamonds (or any other gem, but diamonds are the only gems worth it), relying on RoRG to keep the set bonus. If you're into fire damage, try to maybe gamble a Cindercoat instead of your respective set chest armor.

Also, you will probably get a significant sheet damage increase if you swap out the ruby in your weapon for an emerald.

Thanks! I really hoped there would be more than two viable builds, but oh well.

I'm not sure if I should keep playing grifts one level at a time, or try to make some of my lgems to 25. Higher grifts doesn't have a better legendary/set drop ratio, just more bloodshards/exp/gold, right?


This is the scaling table, can maybe help you figure out what grift you can complete. GR25 is a little bit easier than t6 (not much, its basically equal) and everything after gets harder according to the chart below.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That table is nice!
Would it be easy for you to make a plot of it? Maybe log-scale? Maybe grey horizontal lines at the different difficulty levels?

In short, it seems like it is a bit less than 2x the damage every 5 GR levels, and a bit more than 2x the health every 5 GR levels.

I'd love to take the credit for this spreadsheet but it's not my personal work! It's a nice project that was done on diablofans or reddit, I can't recall but it's linked on both sites quite often. :D
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 21 2015 02:36 GMT
#19258
HP is 2(1.17^x) and the Damage is 1.3*(1.131^x), you can go graph them at a ton of places online, just google 'graph calculator' or something.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
April 21 2015 03:52 GMT
#19259
ah died... was attacking an elite mob when he created five arcane thingies (don't know the name) my pc crashed haha
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gade1123
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
United States144 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 20:01:45
April 21 2015 04:37 GMT
#19260
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