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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 16 2014 21:26 GMT
#17101
I seriously hope not, no more nerfing stuff, only buffing please.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 16 2014 21:42 GMT
#17102
On April 17 2014 06:25 wei2coolman wrote:
do you guys think blizz gunna nerf pet builds? cuz I'm seriously thinking about completely gearing my DH to do sentry+pet (maurader set) build.


I don't think so, it seems pretty in line with the strength of other classes builds.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
April 16 2014 22:05 GMT
#17103
On April 17 2014 06:25 wei2coolman wrote:
do you guys think blizz gunna nerf pet builds? cuz I'm seriously thinking about completely gearing my DH to do sentry+pet (maurader set) build.

They already touched it, fixing the sharpshooting not resetting properly. I don't think they would touch it much more.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 17 2014 00:16 GMT
#17104
So much Barb love, hue.

I have to say I've been most impressed with Jougo's Fire/Weapon Throw Barb with IK set. He does a considerable amount of damage with an uncommon skill and those Ancients can tank a ton in rifts.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 17 2014 03:14 GMT
#17105
Imo cindercoat and magefist combo makes fire based builds really fucking strong and easy to gear for. So firebased for all classes with decent fire skills are really effective to gear for.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 17 2014 06:35 GMT
#17106
didnt realize how shitty barbs were until my shard of hate got nerfed. lol.

i have +100% fire dmg and was wondering what people thought about maximus on a barb with hota-smash.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
April 17 2014 06:46 GMT
#17107
On April 17 2014 15:35 dAPhREAk wrote:
didnt realize how shitty barbs were until my shard of hate got nerfed. lol.

i have +100% fire dmg and was wondering what people thought about maximus on a barb with hota-smash.

Pretty much the only barb build left is fire barbs. Even throwing barbs stack fire. You cant go wrong with maximus fire barb with all the extra goodies.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
April 17 2014 09:53 GMT
#17108
2H is better than dual wield for hammer build? I think I salvaged a Maximus once...

I was under the impression 2H were autosoul as the loss of the offhand socket hurts it too much.
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Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
April 17 2014 10:26 GMT
#17109
On April 17 2014 18:53 Nekovivie wrote:
2H is better than dual wield for hammer build? I think I salvaged a Maximus once...

I was under the impression 2H were autosoul as the loss of the offhand socket hurts it too much.

Maximus is the only 2hander being used right now, because of how your stacking of fire damage affects the firechain that is between your demon and you, making that firechain extremely potent damage wise.

Other than that, no other 2handers are worth it that i know of.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 14:59:11
April 17 2014 14:55 GMT
#17110
Doesn't burning axe + devastator offer a lot more dmg?
I tried to enchant my maximus for a socket and the cost is now 1.5mil...
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 17 2014 15:50 GMT
#17111
the demon is too weak in high torment and the chain is kind of unreliable. you are better off going with burning axe and devastator
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
April 17 2014 16:36 GMT
#17112
the maximus demon sucks. Its funny in torment 1. In torment 3 he will start to get 1 shot.

Its just a thing you can go for before you get real weapons to farm torment 1 easier.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
April 17 2014 17:15 GMT
#17113
The whole point of fire build was to farm higher torment. There's no way any of those builds is going to be faster on t3 or below compared to ww lightning.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 17 2014 20:07 GMT
#17114
So I just got a perfect WH:

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+ Show Spoiler +
I play Wizard and Barb.

There were no Monks or DHs in the party.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 18 2014 05:47 GMT
#17115
Why is Witching hour special? Because its the only belt that gives CD an IAS?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 18 2014 06:06 GMT
#17116
On April 18 2014 14:47 Dirkzor wrote:
Why is Witching hour special? Because its the only belt that gives CD an IAS?

Yes. Most belts don't have offensive stats outside of main stat.
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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 07:06:43
April 18 2014 06:20 GMT
#17117
I read somewhere that skills only factor in the damage of the weapon in main hand further damage. Is that true?

Also people think that 2 handed weapons are bad cuz you miss out on the second socket. I think that is misleading. I did some calculations on my monk and the raw dps was pretty similar while dual wielding and using a 2h because although you might have 400% crit dmg instead of 530% or so 2h weapons roll with higher dmg so it gets equalized.
The only reason 1h weapons seem so much better ATM is they have much better passive procs than most 2h weapons. Procs on TF and SoH add a ton to your dps, and you can have two of them while dual-wielding.

edit: ofc i might be missing something rly obvious here
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DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
April 18 2014 07:35 GMT
#17118
On April 18 2014 15:20 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I read somewhere that skills only factor in the damage of the weapon in main hand further damage. Is that true?

Also people think that 2 handed weapons are bad cuz you miss out on the second socket. I think that is misleading. I did some calculations on my monk and the raw dps was pretty similar while dual wielding and using a 2h because although you might have 400% crit dmg instead of 530% or so 2h weapons roll with higher dmg so it gets equalized.
The only reason 1h weapons seem so much better ATM is they have much better passive procs than most 2h weapons. Procs on TF and SoH add a ton to your dps, and you can have two of them while dual-wielding.

edit: ofc i might be missing something rly obvious here

there are some skills that only use the main hand (earthquake and rend for barbs for instance) while others alternate weapons. if you use skills that only uses your main hand 2handers can be good. but in general 2 1handers is better. specially now that crit damage is harder to come by

dont forget that duel wielding 1 handers have 15% extra attack speed.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
April 18 2014 10:09 GMT
#17119
I factored in the AS when calculating my damage with the two 1h weapons I have compared to the legendary diablo that dropped for me the other day. The sheet dps was rly close.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 10:19:38
April 18 2014 10:19 GMT
#17120
On April 18 2014 19:09 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I factored in the AS when calculating my damage with the two 1h weapons I have compared to the legendary diablo that dropped for me the other day. The sheet dps was rly close.

Could be possible if you're comparing like a 2.8-3k dps 2h vs. 2x 2-2.1k weapons. I'm not sure what you mean when you say you factored in the AS though. You equip one, check the sheet dps, and equip others, check sheet dps, and barring procs, you get the comparison. Now there are other factors such as swing time(slow is better for 2h, 1h is build dependant) that can make up for a dps loss on a 2h, but generally speaking, it takes an absolutely insane 2h to make up for 2 good 1h.
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