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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 10:31:36
April 04 2014 10:18 GMT
#16761
I actually got my triumvirate from kadala, so she can definitely drop some good gear. It's really rare though. I'd guess kadala has somewhere between a 1-2% legendary droprate.

On April 04 2014 13:55 Valiver wrote:
A post on the forums just accidentally revealed the magic find increase in torment levels which blizzard has been keeping hidden:
Show nested quote +
Great question! (I was actually looking for a good thread in which to drop this information.)

So, the 25% bonus to Legendary drops in Nephalem Rifts is multiplicative and will actually stack with the scaling Legendary drop rate bonus in Torment 1-6.

This means if you're playing through a Rift in Normal-Master, you'll have a 25% bonus to Legendary drops. If you're playing through a Rift in Torment 1, you'll have a 43% bonus to Legendary drops (1.15 * 1.25 = 1.43). If you're playing through a Rift in Torment 2, you'll have a 65% bonus to Legendary drops (1.32* 1.25 = 1.65). And so on.

Hope that helps clear some things up a bit. (Also, I really hope my math checks out. >.>)

Note that we're going to continue to keep an eye on Rifts and how rewarding they are (or, more importantly, how rewarding they feel). We've already seen some great feedback from players on that topic that we're taking a look at now. This buff is just a small change we could make quickly, and we're definitely looking forward to your feedback over the next few days.


Judging by this, sweet spot for most people on TL right now is T1-T3. I can definitely farm T1 faster than 1/1.43% the speed of normal, and T2 faster than 1/1.65. I don't think T3 is worth it for me outside a group though, frozen orb just falls off too hard once you start having to single target.
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 13:41:25
April 04 2014 13:40 GMT
#16762
Kadala having 1-2% leg drop rate would mean I'd have received between 5 and 10 legendaries from her, while the real number is a solid zero.

To be honest, I still have to walk around with a yellow wand after like 50 hours into RoS (maybe more). I have 480k/10mil unbuffed and I breeze through T1, but I can't find a legendary one-hander for life.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22073 Posts
April 04 2014 13:41 GMT
#16763
On April 04 2014 22:40 BluzMan wrote:
Kadala having 1-2% leg drop rate would mean I'd have received between 5 and 10 legendaries from her, while the real number is a solid zero.

To be honest, I still have to walk around with a yellow wand after like 50 hours into RoS (maybe more). I have 480k/10mil unbuffed and I breeze through T1, but I can't find a legendary one-hander for life.

Random chance is Random.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 04 2014 14:06 GMT
#16764
im only gambling for cindercoat anywya, and with no end date in mind. if i can possibly get it then i'll get it eventually as time becomes large.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 04 2014 14:48 GMT
#16765
On April 04 2014 13:55 Valiver wrote:
A post on the forums just accidentally revealed the magic find increase in torment levels which blizzard has been keeping hidden:
Show nested quote +
Great question! (I was actually looking for a good thread in which to drop this information.)

So, the 25% bonus to Legendary drops in Nephalem Rifts is multiplicative and will actually stack with the scaling Legendary drop rate bonus in Torment 1-6.

This means if you're playing through a Rift in Normal-Master, you'll have a 25% bonus to Legendary drops. If you're playing through a Rift in Torment 1, you'll have a 43% bonus to Legendary drops (1.15 * 1.25 = 1.43). If you're playing through a Rift in Torment 2, you'll have a 65% bonus to Legendary drops (1.32* 1.25 = 1.65). And so on.

Hope that helps clear some things up a bit. (Also, I really hope my math checks out. >.>)

Note that we're going to continue to keep an eye on Rifts and how rewarding they are (or, more importantly, how rewarding they feel). We've already seen some great feedback from players on that topic that we're taking a look at now. This buff is just a small change we could make quickly, and we're definitely looking forward to your feedback over the next few days.


Sounds like each Torment level is 15% over the previous one. I find it pretty low. They should scale normal -> master as well since it's pretty dumb to have people farm normal then jump to torment.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
April 04 2014 16:09 GMT
#16766
On April 04 2014 22:40 BluzMan wrote:
Kadala having 1-2% leg drop rate would mean I'd have received between 5 and 10 legendaries from her, while the real number is a solid zero.

To be honest, I still have to walk around with a yellow wand after like 50 hours into RoS (maybe more). I have 480k/10mil unbuffed and I breeze through T1, but I can't find a legendary one-hander for life.
People have this tendency to bemoan perceived poor luck in drops. Perfect trifecta ammies, rings, and set legs may not be raining cats and dogs for you but kadala does in fact tend to give out legendaries somewhat frequently considering how easy shards are to obtain. Maybe you haven't been super lucky with her, but for every person below average there is another that has gotten way more than average (my friend, with nearly every legendary source while looking for mirrorball, who now has it). In my personal experience, I actually I got two legendary shoulders in sequential purchases last night (Homing Pads) but they were both worse than my near-perfectly rolled vit/in/AR/%life rare.

So meh, keep trying, and don't let it get to you. Your past luck has no relevance to future chances for drops. Try to run in groups of 4 and if someone else finds a good 1h then maybe they won't need it.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 04 2014 16:59 GMT
#16767
i have found about 4-5 upgrades from kadala.

good rare chest, good rare gloves, good rare amulet.
andariel's vissage
mirrorball with +2 missiles

shitton of yellow crystals!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 04 2014 17:41 GMT
#16768
On April 04 2014 23:48 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 13:55 Valiver wrote:
A post on the forums just accidentally revealed the magic find increase in torment levels which blizzard has been keeping hidden:
Great question! (I was actually looking for a good thread in which to drop this information.)

So, the 25% bonus to Legendary drops in Nephalem Rifts is multiplicative and will actually stack with the scaling Legendary drop rate bonus in Torment 1-6.

This means if you're playing through a Rift in Normal-Master, you'll have a 25% bonus to Legendary drops. If you're playing through a Rift in Torment 1, you'll have a 43% bonus to Legendary drops (1.15 * 1.25 = 1.43). If you're playing through a Rift in Torment 2, you'll have a 65% bonus to Legendary drops (1.32* 1.25 = 1.65). And so on.

Hope that helps clear some things up a bit. (Also, I really hope my math checks out. >.>)

Note that we're going to continue to keep an eye on Rifts and how rewarding they are (or, more importantly, how rewarding they feel). We've already seen some great feedback from players on that topic that we're taking a look at now. This buff is just a small change we could make quickly, and we're definitely looking forward to your feedback over the next few days.


Sounds like each Torment level is 15% over the previous one. I find it pretty low. They should scale normal -> master as well since it's pretty dumb to have people farm normal then jump to torment.


I'm surprised split farming hasn't been addressed already. hard -> master would have a point if people weren't split farming.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 04 2014 17:44 GMT
#16769
Oh and it's also another 50% bonus xp weekend:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/13645407/reaper-of-weekends-50-bonus-xp-this-friday-thru-monday-4-4-2014
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 04 2014 17:46 GMT
#16770
another question for you number grinding nerds (much <3), is it better to get dmg on rings, or ias? my build is disintegrate/archon on a wiz.

i have a leoric with int, cc and cd, and i rerolled the fourth stat (previously vit) into 74-152 dmg. my thought is that ias would replete my ap too fast and not increase my burst dmg whereas extra dmg would add a bonus to each attack and keep my ap manageable. however, 74-152 dmg seems kind of low given my 1H is at 2326 dps.

also, i have a SoJ with no cc/cd, and i rerolled the vit into dmg as well. should that be cc instead given i have 50+ cc already?

char for reference:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/3929813

thanks!
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 18:01:32
April 04 2014 17:57 GMT
#16771
On April 05 2014 02:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
another question for you number grinding nerds (much <3), is it better to get dmg on rings, or ias? my build is disintegrate/archon on a wiz.

i have a leoric with int, cc and cd, and i rerolled the fourth stat (previously vit) into 74-152 dmg. my thought is that ias would replete my ap too fast and not increase my burst dmg whereas extra dmg would add a bonus to each attack and keep my ap manageable. however, 74-152 dmg seems kind of low given my 1H is at 2326 dps.

also, i have a SoJ with no cc/cd, and i rerolled the vit into dmg as well. should that be cc instead given i have 50+ cc already?

char for reference:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/3929813

thanks!

If I'm doing the math right a ring with 74-152 dmg on it would basically add 169 dps to your weapon (after the +7% dmg on the weapon). Assuming it would be a 6% attack speed roll it would give your weapon 139.5 more dps, but as you said also take more arcane power per second. If I am looking at that right I say the damage is better.

edit for maths:
74-152 dmg = 113 average damage X 0.07 (weapon modifier) = 7.91+113 = 120.9 X 1.4(attacks per second on wep) = 169.2 more dps.

6% attack speed = 2326 (weapon dps) X 0.06 (ias) = 139.56 more dps.
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
April 04 2014 18:00 GMT
#16772
On April 05 2014 02:57 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 02:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
another question for you number grinding nerds (much <3), is it better to get dmg on rings, or ias? my build is disintegrate/archon on a wiz.

i have a leoric with int, cc and cd, and i rerolled the fourth stat (previously vit) into 74-152 dmg. my thought is that ias would replete my ap too fast and not increase my burst dmg whereas extra dmg would add a bonus to each attack and keep my ap manageable. however, 74-152 dmg seems kind of low given my 1H is at 2326 dps.

also, i have a SoJ with no cc/cd, and i rerolled the vit into dmg as well. should that be cc instead given i have 50+ cc already?

char for reference:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/3929813

thanks!

If I'm doing the math right a ring with 74-152 dmg on it would basically add 169 dps to your weapon (after the +7% dmg on the weapon). Assuming it would be a 6% attack speed roll it would give your weapon 139.5 more dps, but as you said also take more arcane power per second. If I am looking at that right I say the damage is better.

yes, i also end up with 169 onweapon-dps.

also keep in mind that you will one day be able to increase your AS by paragon points...

so i would definitely stick with the avg dam roll.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 04 2014 18:24 GMT
#16773
Random question, why the bonus xp socket in helm instead of 22% life or CDR
WriterXiao8~~
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
April 04 2014 18:28 GMT
#16774
gotta get dem paragon levels
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 18:36:21
April 04 2014 18:31 GMT
#16775
On April 05 2014 03:28 Mindcrime wrote:
gotta get dem paragon levels

If you look at your character sheet, you'll notice that the %XP bonus from a Ruby stacks additively with the XP bonus from higher difficulties, not multiplicatively. By T1 and higher, the XP bonus is not terribly significant relative to your XP gain because the XP bonus from difficulty is much higher. If you're farming T3, which has a 550% XP bonus, the Ruby is effectively giving you only about 6% more XP because it's not multiplying that 550% bonus.

EDIT: At, least this was the case when I tested this in the days leading up to RoS. I doubt Blizzard would have changed this without mentioning it.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 04 2014 18:37 GMT
#16776
i like paragon levels because it gives me a sense of accomplishment when i do a run and get tons of experience despite the fact that i didnt find a usable item. the red gem aids in that. at t1, doesnt it give like a 10% bonus xp boost? obviously, it has diminishing returns the higher you go, but i spend most time at low level t1.

i dont need the extra life because most groups play low torment, and when i solo i run prismatic which makes life loss manageable at high torments. i can still watch tv and not worry about dying.

CDR may be nice due to archon, maybe i will check in on that.

primarily, i dont like to change gems because they are fucking expensive to change. most times i dont change gems until i salvage an item so that i can remove the gem for free.

thanks for the info on +dmg, i will keep the dmg and not try to re-roll.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 04 2014 18:49 GMT
#16777
T1 is 300% extra bonus xp
With the gem thats 341% bonus xp

Correct me if i'm wrong but thats 13,6% extra xp?
WriterXiao8~~
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 04 2014 19:07 GMT
#16778
On April 05 2014 03:24 Kipsate wrote:
Random question, why the bonus xp socket in helm instead of 22% life or CDR


Helm sockets seem inferior unless you're doing some build that is reliant on CDR.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 19:56:56
April 04 2014 19:55 GMT
#16779
On April 05 2014 03:49 Kipsate wrote:
T1 is 300% extra bonus xp
With the gem thats 341% bonus xp

Correct me if i'm wrong but thats 13,6% extra xp?

300% BONUS XP = 4x Normal XP

441% XP with gem/400% XP without gem = 10.25% more XP
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NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
April 04 2014 21:23 GMT
#16780
Hell Rift bounty runs with extra exp are rather hilarious, single run boosting a lvl 60 friend netted him like 2,5 levels. Even though they get boring after a while, I still need the gold for best gems since I started the expansion with barely any.
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