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OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
June 29 2010 21:55 GMT
#41
Hi im sorry, but i dont know anything about Pokemon. What do you mean with "playing pokemon Competivly?". I mean, via Nintendo DS? or another PC program?

ty
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 22:54:57
June 29 2010 22:54 GMT
#42
I got into Shoddy Battle quite a bit a while back. My friend recommended it to me and it was really interesting to learn about all the background mechanics in Pokemon, and one interesting fact led to another which eventually led me to playing it competitively. I never became that good though, the friend that told me about it was pretty damn good.

Edit: Yeah I only played OU, nothing else seemed worth it in my eyes.
lalala
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
June 29 2010 23:31 GMT
#43
I play on Shoddy once in a while and mainly stick with the normal OU teams. How popular is Uber?
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 00:14:03
June 30 2010 00:10 GMT
#44
I used to play on shoddy a lot about a year ago. I experimented with a lot of teams until I found one that I just grew to love, a Walrein ice team. This team would net me a lot of free wins from people who disconnected because I would play like Flash; always camping, always waiting, always planning. Many people don't have the patience to deal with a turtle team.

I would open Azelf who I consider the best starter by far, especially with explosion. After taking out the first pokemon, or with a little luck, 2 or 3, I would switch to Obamasnow and get my ice falling. Other than the autohail, Obamasnow isn't a very great pokemon, but I would try to camp with him using protect and switchouts all the while damaging the other team with my hail. I then transitions to either skarmory or blissey depending on the pokemon and this combination is quite strong and allows me to tank damage while the other team is getting hailed on (Always use leftovers). Depending on the composition I would need a late game sweeper so I used Mamoswine to bring the hurt and finish people off late game. And last but certainly not least is Walrein, the star of my team. The ice combined with leftovers, protect and substitute allows Walrein to turtle until his PP runs out (or players are smart and change the weather). I can usually use him to kill 1 or 2 people and sweep with surf if needed. I love that walrus because he's so goddamn goofy looking.

So that's my team that got me to 1400 on Shoddy battle's OU. The counters I had the most trouble with were sand teams because that kind ruins your ice advantage (and nullifies walrein) and teams that were heavy on sweepers (Gyarados was a big problem for me and I would have to lucky with Obamasnow, same thing for salmence. Cresselia was also a pain in the ass to deal with as she can sometimes out-turtle you.

So that's my build, give a try if you want. It's not perfect by any means, but I don't think there is a perfect pokemon team. A lot of this game is luck, but the heart of the game is crafting a team you like and thing is special and/or unique. Many people don't give Walrein enough love but he's more than viable on shoddy.

*Also I know it's Abomasnow, but Obamasnow is just more awesome.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 30 2010 00:45 GMT
#45
I used to play a long time ago on netbattle, I've never really played seriously on shoddy cept with baller teams made of pokemon like

Doom Desire Jirachi
Defensive Stallmence
Defcurl + Rollout Lax
Full Physical Togekiss
Transforming Smergle

etc.

Also, the UU metagame is much more fun than uber (and maybe standard)
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 05:43:17
June 30 2010 05:41 GMT
#46
On June 30 2010 09:10 Athos wrote:
I used to play on shoddy a lot about a year ago. I experimented with a lot of teams until I found one that I just grew to love, a Walrein ice team. This team would net me a lot of free wins from people who disconnected because I would play like Flash; always camping, always waiting, always planning. Many people don't have the patience to deal with a turtle team.

I would open Azelf who I consider the best starter by far, especially with explosion. After taking out the first pokemon, or with a little luck, 2 or 3, I would switch to Obamasnow and get my ice falling. Other than the autohail, Obamasnow isn't a very great pokemon, but I would try to camp with him using protect and switchouts all the while damaging the other team with my hail. I then transitions to either skarmory or blissey depending on the pokemon and this combination is quite strong and allows me to tank damage while the other team is getting hailed on (Always use leftovers). Depending on the composition I would need a late game sweeper so I used Mamoswine to bring the hurt and finish people off late game. And last but certainly not least is Walrein, the star of my team. The ice combined with leftovers, protect and substitute allows Walrein to turtle until his PP runs out (or players are smart and change the weather). I can usually use him to kill 1 or 2 people and sweep with surf if needed. I love that walrus because he's so goddamn goofy looking.

So that's my team that got me to 1400 on Shoddy battle's OU. The counters I had the most trouble with were sand teams because that kind ruins your ice advantage (and nullifies walrein) and teams that were heavy on sweepers (Gyarados was a big problem for me and I would have to lucky with Obamasnow, same thing for salmence. Cresselia was also a pain in the ass to deal with as she can sometimes out-turtle you.

So that's my build, give a try if you want. It's not perfect by any means, but I don't think there is a perfect pokemon team. A lot of this game is luck, but the heart of the game is crafting a team you like and thing is special and/or unique. Many people don't give Walrein enough love but he's more than viable on shoddy.

*Also I know it's Abomasnow, but Obamasnow is just more awesome.


Hahaha if you're the one who uses Obamasnow, then I've played you before. I think you rage quit against my choice team under the screenname SweetTea.

Specs Azelf/Vap
Scarf Gengar
CB Scizor/Gross/Snorlax.

EDIT: It's actually surprisingly effective on Shoddy. I'm holding at low 1400 CRE, and pretty much all I do is leave it running in the background while I browse the internet, and every once in a while attack. You won't believe how many blind Surfs I've launched with Vaporeon lol.
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
June 30 2010 05:55 GMT
#47
On June 30 2010 14:41 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 09:10 Athos wrote:
I used to play on shoddy a lot about a year ago. I experimented with a lot of teams until I found one that I just grew to love, a Walrein ice team. This team would net me a lot of free wins from people who disconnected because I would play like Flash; always camping, always waiting, always planning. Many people don't have the patience to deal with a turtle team.

I would open Azelf who I consider the best starter by far, especially with explosion. After taking out the first pokemon, or with a little luck, 2 or 3, I would switch to Obamasnow and get my ice falling. Other than the autohail, Obamasnow isn't a very great pokemon, but I would try to camp with him using protect and switchouts all the while damaging the other team with my hail. I then transitions to either skarmory or blissey depending on the pokemon and this combination is quite strong and allows me to tank damage while the other team is getting hailed on (Always use leftovers). Depending on the composition I would need a late game sweeper so I used Mamoswine to bring the hurt and finish people off late game. And last but certainly not least is Walrein, the star of my team. The ice combined with leftovers, protect and substitute allows Walrein to turtle until his PP runs out (or players are smart and change the weather). I can usually use him to kill 1 or 2 people and sweep with surf if needed. I love that walrus because he's so goddamn goofy looking.

So that's my team that got me to 1400 on Shoddy battle's OU. The counters I had the most trouble with were sand teams because that kind ruins your ice advantage (and nullifies walrein) and teams that were heavy on sweepers (Gyarados was a big problem for me and I would have to lucky with Obamasnow, same thing for salmence. Cresselia was also a pain in the ass to deal with as she can sometimes out-turtle you.

So that's my build, give a try if you want. It's not perfect by any means, but I don't think there is a perfect pokemon team. A lot of this game is luck, but the heart of the game is crafting a team you like and thing is special and/or unique. Many people don't give Walrein enough love but he's more than viable on shoddy.

*Also I know it's Abomasnow, but Obamasnow is just more awesome.


Hahaha if you're the one who uses Obamasnow, then I've played you before. I think you rage quit against my choice team under the screenname SweetTea.

Specs Azelf/Vap
Scarf Gengar
CB Scizor/Gross/Snorlax.

EDIT: It's actually surprisingly effective on Shoddy. I'm holding at low 1400 CRE, and pretty much all I do is leave it running in the background while I browse the internet, and every once in a while attack. You won't believe how many blind Surfs I've launched with Vaporeon lol.


It's probably not me as I haven't played in a year and Obamasnow is a pretty popular name (it just works too well).
But yeah, I love using first gen pokemon but I was never able to make it work in the OU metagame. Maybe if I gave it a bit more time and thought I could do it.
Kpyolysis32
Profile Joined April 2010
553 Posts
June 30 2010 13:29 GMT
#48
I'm Kpyolysis32 on Shoddybattle, for any of you who see me. I think my highest was around 1850 CRE, but that was back when Wobbuffet was legal, and most of my wins came from abusing it. If you see, definitely challenge me!
Man, do I not keep this up to date, or what?
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 30 2010 13:51 GMT
#49
how can you compete?
if i remember correctly theres moves that constantly lower your opponents accuracy and they just keep missing lololol
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 30 2010 14:19 GMT
#50
On June 30 2010 22:51 Mykill wrote:
how can you compete?
if i remember correctly theres moves that constantly lower your opponents accuracy and they just keep missing lololol


You can set a clause that bans accuracy-lowering moves.
:)
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
June 30 2010 15:23 GMT
#51
How does one compete in pokemon? You use them to battle? But weren't the player's pokemans always way better than everyone else's? I mean, you fight through 9347693872469 battles in the game, without losing a single one. Frequently Pokemon have 1-hit kill attacks. How do you even battle?
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 30 2010 18:27 GMT
#52
On July 01 2010 00:23 MangoTango wrote:
How does one compete in pokemon? You use them to battle? But weren't the player's pokemans always way better than everyone else's? I mean, you fight through 9347693872469 battles in the game, without losing a single one. Frequently Pokemon have 1-hit kill attacks. How do you even battle?

Hey see for yourself in Shoddy Battle. its not the fucking RPG.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 30 2010 18:35 GMT
#53
On June 28 2010 13:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
I had no idea pokemon was a competitive game. lol.


Pretty much every computer and console game in the world has a competitive community. My friend plays neopets on a "high competitive level". lol
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
LolnoobInsanity
Profile Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
June 30 2010 18:39 GMT
#54
my name on shoddybattle is sonofashrub
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 30 2010 19:19 GMT
#55
On June 30 2010 23:19 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 22:51 Mykill wrote:
how can you compete?
if i remember correctly theres moves that constantly lower your opponents accuracy and they just keep missing lololol


You can set a clause that bans accuracy-lowering moves.


No such clause exists. There's clauses for banning evasion increasing moves (with the exception of Acupuncture).

bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
June 30 2010 19:50 GMT
#56
I played alot of Smogon last year, I also pokesavd a bunch of pokemon onto my Pearl and tossed 8 year old Japanese boys at the battle tower :D.
https://soundcloud.com/bbols
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 30 2010 20:13 GMT
#57
On July 01 2010 04:19 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 23:19 synapse wrote:
On June 30 2010 22:51 Mykill wrote:
how can you compete?
if i remember correctly theres moves that constantly lower your opponents accuracy and they just keep missing lololol


You can set a clause that bans accuracy-lowering moves.


No such clause exists. There's clauses for banning evasion increasing moves (with the exception of Acupuncture).



Mmm I just checked the list of clauses and you are correct. It makes sense, you can just switch out.
:)
maggalo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States77 Posts
July 09 2010 05:54 GMT
#58
I'm on Shoddy right now if anybody wants to play, I'm on the smogon university server username: maggalo, I'm setting up a team for Pokemon Online right now.
rawr.
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
July 29 2010 02:17 GMT
#59
Hey what's everyone's thoughts on what they hope Nintendo does with Black/White??

Stealth Rock single-handedly made me quit the scene this gen, so I hope they do something about it.
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
July 29 2010 02:35 GMT
#60
On July 29 2010 11:17 ndralcasid wrote:
Hey what's everyone's thoughts on what they hope Nintendo does with Black/White??

Stealth Rock single-handedly made me quit the scene this gen, so I hope they do something about it.

If Stealth Rock annoys you so much, carrying a spinner is likely a good investment

Also, Nintendo doesn't care especially about the metagame, so I doubt Black/White will do anything to remedy any imbalances.
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