On February 04 2015 09:37 Kupon3ss wrote: The game historically originated in the upper classes, most likely from divination and from warrior nobles The entire Dan system is based upon ranks and hierarchical designations, and titles that have been governing the game for thousands of years
Bottom line is that you don't know much about the history of Go or Chess or even esports and you're just filling in the blanks to fit your hipster conception of the game
You discredit yourself with that kind of pathetic offensive post...
I think there are many aspects of Go, many different kind of people that play it in many different context. It is true that go is less hierarchical than other games, it doesn't matter that much what rank you are because you can put handicap stones, go players don't mind as much (talking from the go players I know) for ranking as videogames players do. But it is true that Go is hierarchical, it would be foolish to pretend ranks don't exist at all.
By the way I also read that Go was played by higher classes in Japan.
So I wasnt discredited before he put me down lol?
When I meant hierarchy, I meant within the game: like Chess has pawns and queens, but go is just stones. I should have clarifiee. The handicap stones aspect is something i didnt consider thanks!
Where did you read that? Ill read it too, it'l help improve my view
Can't remember where I read it. Probably senseis library, it really is the best website for go knowledge in english. I just found this page that could be interesting for you http://senseis.xmp.net/?CompareGoToChess/History I dont know about the writor though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Arts check this page. Really a few centuries ago, lower folks were all peasants and peasants didn't have the time for these I think.
PS : you are not discredited, I just meant the other guy is discrediting himself when he uses offensive words in an opinion discussion
On February 04 2015 09:37 Kupon3ss wrote: The game historically originated in the upper classes, most likely from divination and from warrior nobles The entire Dan system is based upon ranks and hierarchical designations, and titles that have been governing the game for thousands of years
Bottom line is that you don't know much about the history of Go or Chess or even esports and you're just filling in the blanks to fit your hipster conception of the game
You discredit yourself with that kind of pathetic offensive post...
I think there are many aspects of Go, many different kind of people that play it in many different context. It is true that go is less hierarchical than other games, it doesn't matter that much what rank you are because you can put handicap stones, go players don't mind as much (talking from the go players I know) for ranking as videogames players do. But it is true that Go is hierarchical, it would be foolish to pretend ranks don't exist at all.
By the way I also read that Go was played by higher classes in Japan.
So I wasnt discredited before he put me down lol?
When I meant hierarchy, I meant within the game: like Chess has pawns and queens, but go is just stones. I should have clarifiee. The handicap stones aspect is something i didnt consider thanks!
Where did you read that? Ill read it too, it'l help improve my view
Can't remember where I read it. Probably senseis library, it really is the best website for go knowledge in english. I just found this page that could be interesting for you http://senseis.xmp.net/?CompareGoToChess/History I dont know about the writor though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Arts check this page. Really a few centuries ago, lower folks were all peasants and peasants didn't have the time for these I think.
PS : you are not discredited, I just meant the other guy is discrediting himself when he uses offensive words in an opinion discussion
Oh my mistake, I apologize about the misunderstanding!
That link is honestly a massive godsend. I just wish the documentary would come out as well because I'd love to see how Go is in mainstream culture now!
Thanks a lot for the links! I'm very excited to finish writing this.
http://magazine.1337mag.com/issue1/ -- I've released an issue about Go. I unfortunately couldn't write about everything, so it's been heavily reconstructed. It's on page 66 of our first issue.
Apparently, the program AlphaGo managed to beat the European Champion Fan Hui.
Now, for the first time, a computer has beaten a human Go professional without the advantage of a handicap. AlphaGo, a program developed by Google’s London-based company DeepMind, bested European champion Fan Hui in five games out of five.
Is it normal for the commentators to be lagging behind the game? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to catch up to the game and then start talking about possible next moves?
does anyone know how much processing power the computer running alphago has? IBM's Watson took up an entire room. But I assume they're playing the match in South Korea, which means they would have had to move the bot over from Europe, so there must be an upper bound on the computer's size
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