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Magggrig
Profile Joined January 2014
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 15:44:42
February 04 2015 15:39 GMT
#241
On February 05 2015 00:18 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 19:50 Magggrig wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:37 Kupon3ss wrote:
The game historically originated in the upper classes, most likely from divination and from warrior nobles
The entire Dan system is based upon ranks and hierarchical designations, and titles that have been governing the game for thousands of years

Bottom line is that you don't know much about the history of Go or Chess or even esports and you're just filling in the blanks to fit your hipster conception of the game


You discredit yourself with that kind of pathetic offensive post...

I think there are many aspects of Go, many different kind of people that play it in many different context. It is true that go is less hierarchical than other games, it doesn't matter that much what rank you are because you can put handicap stones, go players don't mind as much (talking from the go players I know) for ranking as videogames players do. But it is true that Go is hierarchical, it would be foolish to pretend ranks don't exist at all.

By the way I also read that Go was played by higher classes in Japan.


So I wasnt discredited before he put me down lol?

When I meant hierarchy, I meant within the game: like Chess has pawns and queens, but go is just stones. I should have clarifiee. The handicap stones aspect is something i didnt consider thanks!

Where did you read that? Ill read it too, it'l help improve my view


Can't remember where I read it. Probably senseis library, it really is the best website for go knowledge in english.
I just found this page that could be interesting for you http://senseis.xmp.net/?CompareGoToChess/History I dont know about the writor though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Arts check this page. Really a few centuries ago, lower folks were all peasants and peasants didn't have the time for these I think.

PS : you are not discredited, I just meant the other guy is discrediting himself when he uses offensive words in an opinion discussion
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 04 2015 18:00 GMT
#242
On February 05 2015 00:39 Magggrig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 00:18 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 04 2015 19:50 Magggrig wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:37 Kupon3ss wrote:
The game historically originated in the upper classes, most likely from divination and from warrior nobles
The entire Dan system is based upon ranks and hierarchical designations, and titles that have been governing the game for thousands of years

Bottom line is that you don't know much about the history of Go or Chess or even esports and you're just filling in the blanks to fit your hipster conception of the game


You discredit yourself with that kind of pathetic offensive post...

I think there are many aspects of Go, many different kind of people that play it in many different context. It is true that go is less hierarchical than other games, it doesn't matter that much what rank you are because you can put handicap stones, go players don't mind as much (talking from the go players I know) for ranking as videogames players do. But it is true that Go is hierarchical, it would be foolish to pretend ranks don't exist at all.

By the way I also read that Go was played by higher classes in Japan.


So I wasnt discredited before he put me down lol?

When I meant hierarchy, I meant within the game: like Chess has pawns and queens, but go is just stones. I should have clarifiee. The handicap stones aspect is something i didnt consider thanks!

Where did you read that? Ill read it too, it'l help improve my view


Can't remember where I read it. Probably senseis library, it really is the best website for go knowledge in english.
I just found this page that could be interesting for you http://senseis.xmp.net/?CompareGoToChess/History I dont know about the writor though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Arts check this page. Really a few centuries ago, lower folks were all peasants and peasants didn't have the time for these I think.

PS : you are not discredited, I just meant the other guy is discrediting himself when he uses offensive words in an opinion discussion


Oh my mistake, I apologize about the misunderstanding!

That link is honestly a massive godsend. I just wish the documentary would come out as well because I'd love to see how Go is in mainstream culture now!

Thanks a lot for the links! I'm very excited to finish writing this.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 02 2015 12:38 GMT
#243
http://magazine.1337mag.com/issue1/ -- I've released an issue about Go. I unfortunately couldn't write about everything, so it's been heavily reconstructed. It's on page 66 of our first issue.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 10:31:09
January 29 2016 10:10 GMT
#244
Apparently, the program AlphaGo managed to beat the European Champion Fan Hui.
Now, for the first time, a computer has beaten a human Go professional without the advantage of a handicap. AlphaGo, a program developed by Google’s London-based company DeepMind, bested European champion Fan Hui in five games out of five.

http://www.nature.com/news/go-players-react-to-computer-defeat-1.19255

A match against Lee Sedol is planned for march.

There is also a nature article about it:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v529/n7587/full/nature16961.html#extended-data
For free: https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-data/assets/papers/deepmind-mastering-go.pdf
A blog by the developers can be found here:
https://googleblog.blogspot.de/2016/01/alphago-machine-learning-game-go.html
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seom
Profile Joined January 2013
South Africa491 Posts
January 29 2016 11:52 GMT
#245
^^Rise of the machines, we have no where to run!!!!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 09 2016 03:35 GMT
#246
Google DeepMind vs Lee Sedol starting soon!

writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
March 09 2016 04:38 GMT
#247
Is it normal for the commentators to be lagging behind the game? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to catch up to the game and then start talking about possible next moves?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3307 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 06:47:34
March 09 2016 05:27 GMT
#248
I don't really know, but it seems like Sedol is winning. Interesting game.

Oh well,

LLWWW after all
T P Z sagi
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 09 2016 05:31 GMT
#249
I just started watching @_@
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 09 2016 05:36 GMT
#250
Anyone know if there's a live report anywhere? In class so I can't watch right now.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 09 2016 06:28 GMT
#251
Apparently critical mistake from AlphaGo?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 06:40:03
March 09 2016 06:36 GMT
#252
Seems like Sedol has lead now.
Looks like that northeast play really hurt.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 06:51:05
March 09 2016 06:47 GMT
#253
Sedol choosing to pick a fight over big white line.
Looks like going to stabilize in Sedol's favour again
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 09 2016 06:51 GMT
#254
Btw beginner commentary so take everything with grain of salt, apparently no one else available to LP live?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 06:58:23
March 09 2016 06:56 GMT
#255
AlphaGo makes another bad play at G16.
At least people are freaking out about it.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
March 09 2016 06:57 GMT
#256
How come the commentators don't have the 2 stones at J1/J2?
Logic fails because we are lazy.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
March 09 2016 06:57 GMT
#257
does anyone know how much processing power the computer running alphago has? IBM's Watson took up an entire room. But I assume they're playing the match in South Korea, which means they would have had to move the bot over from Europe, so there must be an upper bound on the computer's size
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 09 2016 07:13 GMT
#258
Oh, different priorities may yet make this game interesting.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 09 2016 07:16 GMT
#259
Ko fight?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
March 09 2016 07:20 GMT
#260
Is AlphaGo actually going to have enough time?
Logic fails because we are lazy.
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