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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 30 2014 00:19 GMT
#201
On October 30 2014 09:05 thesideshow wrote:
My latest game (I'm white).

http://online-go.com/game/1033711

Been doing a small amount of tsumego daily, about 10 problems a day. Seems to have helped my fighting a lot.


Do you go to Go-problems.com as well?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 30 2014 00:19 GMT
#202
On October 30 2014 08:00 Hesmyrr wrote:
My first instinct is D2 over A3 but I am not sure if I am being too defensive.


That's my biggest fear too.
I realize now that my over-defensiveness is also linked to my lack of readability as everyone has kept telling me. I think with time, I'll start to branch out more and do more crosses when I can see ahead. Right now, I can read maybe 5 moves (MAX) ahead.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
October 30 2014 00:52 GMT
#203
On October 30 2014 09:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 09:05 thesideshow wrote:
My latest game (I'm white).

http://online-go.com/game/1033711

Been doing a small amount of tsumego daily, about 10 problems a day. Seems to have helped my fighting a lot.


Do you go to Go-problems.com as well?


Nah, I either use an app on my phone when i'm out or i'll go to http://online-go.com/puzzles.

Fran's Library on OGS is pretty good for a complete beginner, as it plays out all possible variations with some explanation. It's really helpful to have the rationale to dealing with certain types of problems explained (reduce eyespace, stealing eyes), or i'd be completely lost.
OGS:levelchange
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 30 2014 01:00 GMT
#204
On October 30 2014 09:52 thesideshow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 09:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 30 2014 09:05 thesideshow wrote:
My latest game (I'm white).

http://online-go.com/game/1033711

Been doing a small amount of tsumego daily, about 10 problems a day. Seems to have helped my fighting a lot.


Do you go to Go-problems.com as well?


Nah, I either use an app on my phone when i'm out or i'll go to http://online-go.com/puzzles.

Fran's Library on OGS is pretty good for a complete beginner, as it plays out all possible variations with some explanation. It's really helpful to have the rationale to dealing with certain types of problems explained (reduce eyespace, stealing eyes), or i'd be completely lost.

What's app? Is it on android?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
October 30 2014 04:07 GMT
#205
On October 30 2014 10:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 09:52 thesideshow wrote:
On October 30 2014 09:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 30 2014 09:05 thesideshow wrote:
My latest game (I'm white).

http://online-go.com/game/1033711

Been doing a small amount of tsumego daily, about 10 problems a day. Seems to have helped my fighting a lot.


Do you go to Go-problems.com as well?


Nah, I either use an app on my phone when i'm out or i'll go to http://online-go.com/puzzles.

Fran's Library on OGS is pretty good for a complete beginner, as it plays out all possible variations with some explanation. It's really helpful to have the rationale to dealing with certain types of problems explained (reduce eyespace, stealing eyes), or i'd be completely lost.

What's app? Is it on android?


Yup though there are plenty of others around.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.lrstudios.android.tsumego_workshop&hl=en

I also do some on pdf, mainly to force myself to play out the variations in my head instead of relying on trial and error which is easily done on an app/computer.
http://tsumego.tasuki.org/
OGS:levelchange
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany983 Posts
October 30 2014 07:24 GMT
#206
https://gochild2009.appspot.com/?locale=en_US also has a lot of good problems for beginners.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 31 2014 12:54 GMT
#207
Damn, I dropped to 22kyu, I'm doing awful T_T
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 03:14:46
October 31 2014 21:57 GMT
#208
On October 31 2014 21:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
Damn, I dropped to 22kyu, I'm doing awful T_T


Don't worry about rank if you are just starting out. It's a bad trap that people shouldn't fall into, but it ends up happening. Mostly because it stops them from experimenting with different things.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 02:22:19
November 01 2014 02:00 GMT
#209
Yeah, I try to play aggressive instead of safe moyo games when possible (so no unsupported moves that have no chance of working out in the first place) to train my reading skills. I lose some games due to this but I assume it's going to all be helpful experience later on, though of course I know that itself can create bad habit if I don't constantly check myself.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-06 13:51:52
November 06 2014 13:44 GMT
#210
Would anyone like to review a game I just played?

http://online-go.com/game/1061997

Also, most games 19x19 games I lose is due to having a large group killed or having multiple small groups killed (need to learn how to spot weak groups properly), which destroys my frameworks. I usually resign when that happens. Is there any value in continuing to play such games?
OGS:levelchange
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3942 Posts
November 06 2014 14:14 GMT
#211
If you were black: Don't play 19x19. Try 9x9 or 13x13.
If you were white: No point in reviewing the game, the difference in strength between both players is several magnitudes.

About continuing lost games: If the game is lost, because there is not enough area that could compensate for your losses, even if your opponent messes everything up: resign
Otherwise: Try to "win that area". You most likely fail, then you can resign... And if it works out, good!
But don't just continue games to "practice your endgame". There is no endgame practice in playing out decided games, as the leading players will most likely not care at all about what you do. Only when something is at stake for both players you can practice. (assuming your opponent is not a sparing partner you have some agreements with, but some random opponent)
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany983 Posts
November 06 2014 15:51 GMT
#212
http://online-go.com/review/37979

You did better than your opponent For now you should just try to identify when your opponent's move does nothing and take something big for yourself.
At your rank the game will most likely not be decided by 1 dead group. Often times neither side will actually know if a group is dead or alive and if you think there is still something useful to do on the board, then play it to get as much go experience as possible. A ddk (double digit kyu) who doesn't resign is not being rude.
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
November 06 2014 23:27 GMT
#213
On November 06 2014 23:14 mahrgell wrote:
If you were black: Don't play 19x19. Try 9x9 or 13x13.
If you were white: No point in reviewing the game, the difference in strength between both players is several magnitudes.

About continuing lost games: If the game is lost, because there is not enough area that could compensate for your losses, even if your opponent messes everything up: resign
Otherwise: Try to "win that area". You most likely fail, then you can resign... And if it works out, good!
But don't just continue games to "practice your endgame". There is no endgame practice in playing out decided games, as the leading players will most likely not care at all about what you do. Only when something is at stake for both players you can practice. (assuming your opponent is not a sparing partner you have some agreements with, but some random opponent)


I was white. Thanks for the advice!

On November 07 2014 00:51 nimbim wrote:
http://online-go.com/review/37979

You did better than your opponent For now you should just try to identify when your opponent's move does nothing and take something big for yourself.
At your rank the game will most likely not be decided by 1 dead group. Often times neither side will actually know if a group is dead or alive and if you think there is still something useful to do on the board, then play it to get as much go experience as possible. A ddk (double digit kyu) who doesn't resign is not being rude.


Thanks for the review, that was actually really useful!
I think the reason why I make small moves in the early game is because I have no confidence in my reading. If I don't reinforce them into why seems like a strong group (in my inexperienced eyes), they tend to get killed in the mid game.
OGS:levelchange
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-07 00:26:55
November 07 2014 00:22 GMT
#214
Wow, thanks for posting links to online-go.com ...
Had not heard about it before, but it really looks neat.
Doesn't feel like it has not been worked on since ~2000, like KGS or IGS... : ]

e: Oh, and great to see this thread being this active. Yay, people play Go! ^_^
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
November 07 2014 14:55 GMT
#215
I love OG for not having Java-based online client, reason why I switched over from KGS though there is some things it does better.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-07 17:17:25
November 07 2014 17:01 GMT
#216
Yeah, adding stuff like a friendslist would be quite neat, it feels. : )

e: Okay, I'm stupid. But it does not seem to show friends in the chat, or does it even do that? :D
Snowster
Profile Joined June 2003
United States78 Posts
November 08 2014 06:11 GMT
#217
Yo, I figure I should meet my 1 post/year quota to do a little bit of shameful self-promoting - I recently started twitch & youtube channels to stream/record my games/reviews:

www.twitch.tv/longstridebaduk
www.youtube.com/user/longstridebaduk

I also was just recently granted audio review powers on KGS, so if any newer/weaker players (I'm 3dan on KGS for reference) would like teaching games/reviews there, get in touch with me and I'd be happy to help! I'd also be happy to provide non-KGS games/reviews if that platform doesn't suit you.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 02 2014 09:45 GMT
#218
hello!

I'm back! Was a bit busy before, but now with a nice good 1/2 hour-1 hour for lunch; I can start playing Go!

Does Online-Go work well with iPad? I downloaded Tsumego pro too
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 09 2014 08:15 GMT
#219
http://online-go.com/game/1204598

Just won my first game in awhile! Very happy with how I played it out! Only 35 seocnds per turn, kept my cool, didn't relent and made very few mistakes
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24630 Posts
December 12 2014 01:03 GMT
#220
I've been playing go again after a long hiatus, for the past few days, and I'm noticing kgs is a lot less active than it used to be. Where are the happening places for online ranked go, now? I have such a long wait right now for an opponent at my terrible level lol
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