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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 09 2016 12:38 GMT
#281
rough summary of the game:
https://gogameguru.com/alphago-defeats-lee-sedol-game-1/
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51510 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-09 13:29:36
March 09 2016 13:29 GMT
#282


why does it sound like he's 13
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 09 2016 15:39 GMT
#283
On March 09 2016 17:01 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 16:57 Hesmyrr wrote:
Yeah, I joined mid-game but now I see Sedol played some really dubious mistakes throughout the game. I guess AlphaGO being AI made us more focus on its mistakes, but its misplays during the mid-game only gave Sedol a chance to put the game into doubt again rather than being decisive failure.

It'll be interesting to see what happens on Game 2 when Sedol take this AI more respect from very first move.


Enlighten us about all those dubious moves. Can't wait to have my eyes opened. Because all the profesionals commenting on the various streams only marked one moved as really dubious (Q5). But you obviously have more insight than those 9p scrubs.


As I said before, I'm only beginner so definitely does not feel justified to do this epic game prosperity! I am only ahead in my ability to understand Korean and abbreviate their commentary for LR purposes.

However, I am pretty certain that other baduk communities will be able to point out all the weak points in this game which could've been improved. Since this is pretty significant match, lot of professional players will definitely analyze this match inside and out, and discover all the critical moves which influenced outcome of the game
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
March 09 2016 17:19 GMT
#284
On March 09 2016 21:38 mahrgell wrote:
rough summary of the game:
https://gogameguru.com/alphago-defeats-lee-sedol-game-1/


Thanks!
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 09 2016 18:44 GMT
#285
On March 09 2016 21:38 mahrgell wrote:
rough summary of the game:
https://gogameguru.com/alphago-defeats-lee-sedol-game-1/



this helps a lot!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 09 2016 19:27 GMT
#286
Do you think it would be possible to have this in the sidebar? I think a "historic event" like this should be there :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 10 2016 00:13 GMT
#287
So I think I got perma-banned from KGS for having my username. Won't let me sign in with any username as guest anymore
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2016 00:32 GMT
#288
try password retrieval and see if you get something sent.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 10 2016 00:39 GMT
#289
It tells me I have been temporarily blocked so maybe it's not perma but it is definitely an IP ban
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2016 04:03 GMT
#290
Game 2 starting:



they are saying sedol was playing unusual at the beginning to throw the AI off and it didnt work.

Looks like game 2 will be for realz
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 04:22 GMT
#291
Big picture move from AlphaGo which grabs top of the board rather than reinforcing the bottom group forces first time-intensive thinking from Lee Sedol.

Sedol replies with a stone on the left.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 10 2016 04:23 GMT
#292
I'm really appreciating this development talk about the workings of their algorithm.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 04:25 GMT
#293
P15?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2016 04:30 GMT
#294
On March 10 2016 13:23 Draconicfire wrote:
I'm really appreciating this development talk about the workings of their algorithm.


yeah, interesting three sets of areas
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 04:32:54
March 10 2016 04:32 GMT
#295
Sedol provokes a fight with B15. Not sure what to think of this maneuver with what happened in first match. Or is this switch?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 04:53:44
March 10 2016 04:49 GMT
#296
Surprise Q10! Interested to see how AlphaGo will develop this play.
It does work with previously played P15.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 04:56 GMT
#297
Korean commentators talk about P10-Q12 variation and how previous success of AlphaGo forced Sedol to analyze this decision more. Has AlphaGo already foreseen a future where it'll sacrifice the right for solid middle?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 05:04:16
March 10 2016 05:03 GMT
#298
Is it really fine for Sedol to spend so much time here?

O9!!!!!!!!!
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 05:09 GMT
#299
Can anyone more knowledgeable about the game commentate on whether Sedol's choice of block direction is correct?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 05:11 GMT
#300
AlphaGo does D14 connect! The battle!
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
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