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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 05:23 GMT
#301
Don't try this at home
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 10 2016 05:33 GMT
#302
On March 10 2016 14:09 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can anyone more knowledgeable about the game commentate on whether Sedol's choice of block direction is correct?

Now I (4d) admit, that my first intuition was also to block off the side. But upon comparing the results of both blocks, I'm pretty convinced blocking upwards as played is correct.
The main issue is the top side here. At the point it was played, it was really easy for B to press down on the left side of W. This means getting access from there is difficult for W. If W would have now also been pressed down (even if down here would mean 4th line, which is generally considered good) on the right side, any invasion on top would be a real difficulty and potentially get under severe attack. Remember that "under attack" does not mean it would die. But the profit for Black from attacking would outweight the potential gain, White could have taken earlier on the side.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 10 2016 05:35 GMT
#303
Well... now that I wrote it, the players were so nice to actually show it on the board... Imagine the white stone peaking into the center from the right side would be Black, and in return White would have the entire right side cleared. The gain on the right side would be about 15-20 points. But the Black framework would be really impressive and threatening.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 05:43:38
March 10 2016 05:43 GMT
#304
Thank you! Looking at how the board developed, I can see how that white group can be useful.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 06:05:17
March 10 2016 06:05 GMT
#305
Lee has too much secured territory imo, I don't see alphago winning this. B almost has nothing secured right now.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 10 2016 06:06 GMT
#306
On March 10 2016 15:05 Furikawari wrote:
Lee has too much secured territory imo, I don't see alphago winning this. B almost has nothing secured right now.

Are we watching the same game?
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 06:12:11
March 10 2016 06:11 GMT
#307
Top is now split and open on both sides, middle is open on 2 sides (and theres a cut on left even though a crude one), bottom right is open (even though it would cost in the corner obviously).

Black has no secured point right now, only prospects.
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
March 10 2016 06:14 GMT
#308
Oh and if I heard correctly Redmond agrees with me
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 06:16 GMT
#309
What's happening?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 10 2016 06:21 GMT
#310
On March 10 2016 15:14 Furikawari wrote:
Oh and if I heard correctly Redmond agrees with me

You heard wrong. Redmond even stated that this weak group of Whie will turn pretty much most of it into territory.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 06:30 GMT
#311
Looks like AlphaGo is in favour for me.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
March 10 2016 06:36 GMT
#312
The invasion top turned into a disaster imo. No way it's good to end up giving territoy for this wall mid that isnt even secured yet.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 10 2016 07:02 GMT
#313
"Chris are you paying attention?"

Haha.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2016 07:58 GMT
#314
this is some tense shit
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 10 2016 07:59 GMT
#315
Bringing it to the last second.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
seom
Profile Joined January 2013
South Africa491 Posts
March 10 2016 08:06 GMT
#316
can lee still win this? doesn't look like it
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
March 10 2016 08:17 GMT
#317
Fantasy gg timing?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2016 08:18 GMT
#318
game is so good that even the commentators are kind of mute.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 10 2016 08:20 GMT
#319
On March 10 2016 17:17 calh wrote:
Fantasy gg timing?

When in Byoyomi, you will see much less resignations then when having lots of time left like yesterday. But of course, when you have a dozen pros chewing it for the couch spectator, it is easy to call everything and make bold judgements.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 10 2016 08:26 GMT
#320
gg, 2:0
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
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