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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2016 08:27 GMT
#321
gg alphago too good.

Definitely felt this was the better match between the two
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 10 2016 08:28 GMT
#322
dang, that was quite a different game than yesterday. Looking forward to tomorrow
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
March 10 2016 08:28 GMT
#323
Cant wait to see post game analysis and what pro have to say about G3 and its consequences.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
March 10 2016 08:33 GMT
#324
LLWWW

Humanity fighting!

(really though, probably 0-5...)
T P Z sagi
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2016 08:33 GMT
#325
Is it Bo5 or 5 games regardless?

I feel like Game 3 will be the same as G2 or lesser quality.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
March 10 2016 08:35 GMT
#326
On March 10 2016 17:33 Torte de Lini wrote:
Is it Bo5 or 5 games regardless?

I feel like Game 3 will be the same as G2 or lesser quality.


5 games regardless
T P Z sagi
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 10 2016 08:35 GMT
#327
I think five games regardless. The games against Fan Hui were 0:5 so I'm assuming it will be the same case here.
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seom
Profile Joined January 2013
South Africa491 Posts
March 10 2016 08:47 GMT
#328
I hope he can take at least one game
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28089 Posts
March 10 2016 08:53 GMT
#329
On March 10 2016 17:35 Draconicfire wrote:
I think five games regardless. The games against Fan Hui were 0:5 so I'm assuming it will be the same case here.

Yeah. We were silly to think the difference in skill between Fan Hui Lee Sedol would actually matter. AlphaGo destroying them both.
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Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
March 10 2016 08:59 GMT
#330
On March 10 2016 17:53 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 17:35 Draconicfire wrote:
I think five games regardless. The games against Fan Hui were 0:5 so I'm assuming it will be the same case here.

Yeah. We were silly to think the difference in skill between Fan Hui Lee Sedol would actually matter. AlphaGo destroying them both.


? In both games Lee made questionnable moves (to say the least). It's nowhere close to "destroying".
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28089 Posts
March 10 2016 09:02 GMT
#331
On March 10 2016 17:59 Furikawari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 17:53 TheEmulator wrote:
On March 10 2016 17:35 Draconicfire wrote:
I think five games regardless. The games against Fan Hui were 0:5 so I'm assuming it will be the same case here.

Yeah. We were silly to think the difference in skill between Fan Hui Lee Sedol would actually matter. AlphaGo destroying them both.


? In both games Lee made questionnable moves (to say the least). It's nowhere close to "destroying".

I just meant if it does go 5-0 for AlphaGo. I'm pretty sure 5-0ing someone would be considered "destroying" even if the games are close.
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 15:05 GMT
#332
I agree the final result is what matters the most. Lee Changho did not go for fancy wins with massive pt difference, but nobody can deny he "destroyed" in his highest point because he won things.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 10 2016 15:07 GMT
#333
Also, probably switching to BadukTV commentary. They have been surprisingly accurate with predictions while SBS and KBS faltered.

It's undeniable now that AlphaGo is really really good, which is made worse by the fact that it seemingly plays "incomprehensible" moves. I fear what effect this might have on the Go scene.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
March 10 2016 15:47 GMT
#334
Noob question:

Where can I find the current rankings for the top players? Do they have ratings like chess using results from recent major tournaments?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 16:30:36
March 10 2016 16:24 GMT
#335
On March 11 2016 00:47 Glacierz wrote:
Noob question:

Where can I find the current rankings for the top players? Do they have ratings like chess using results from recent major tournaments?

Didn't find one and don't know one, only found wikipedias (a bit outdated) list of who won the most tournaments:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_title_holders_in_Go

Many of those still seem to play, so I guess it give you some info on who is the best. Also this has some info descriptions on the best players: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Go_players
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany984 Posts
March 10 2016 16:26 GMT
#336
There is no official international ranking, each go association uses their own system. Somebody did this list for example http://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=12079
This was produced by Dr. Bae Taeil using repeat calculation(I am not sure what it means.). It is not official ranking but Korean Baduk association use this table to produce their Korean Ranking.


I don't know any japanese, so I don't even know who is listed there: http://sports.geocities.jp/mamumamu0413/total.html

I just keep track of who holds the titles in their respective country, this site is incredibly good with all the tournament results of previous years and kifus for most games: http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/news.html
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-10 16:36:34
March 10 2016 16:32 GMT
#337
On March 11 2016 01:26 nimbim wrote:
There is no official international ranking, each go association uses their own system. Somebody did this list for example http://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=12079
Show nested quote +
This was produced by Dr. Bae Taeil using repeat calculation(I am not sure what it means.). It is not official ranking but Korean Baduk association use this table to produce their Korean Ranking.


I don't know any japanese, so I don't even know who is listed there: http://sports.geocities.jp/mamumamu0413/total.html

I just keep track of who holds the titles in their respective country, this site is incredibly good with all the tournament results of previous years and kifus for most games: http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/news.html

The second link shows Ke Jie as current number one. He's only 18.
Apparently he also declared a challenge to Alphago:
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/national/AlphaGo-cant-beat-me-says-Chinese-Go-grandmaster-Ke-Jie/shdaily.shtml

I found an english version of the ratings, seems consistent with yours:
http://www.goratings.org/

I know very little of the game, but I'm a huge fan of AI and how Google has applied neuronetworks in this particular challenge. This is akin to finally putting a "brain" behind a super computer.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2016 18:45 GMT
#338
http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/9/11185030/google-deepmind-alphago-go-artificial-intelligence-impact

Good piece from The Verge
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 10 2016 19:01 GMT
#339
https://gogameguru.com/alphago-races-ahead-2-0-lee-sedol/

Game 2 analysis
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 12 2016 03:02 GMT
#340
Game three starts in about an hour
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