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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 17 2010 17:45 GMT
#18641
Only time I care about lore is when stuff happens like Rammus not getting bonus damage for MR because the Riot president thought it didn't fit into his lore.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 17 2010 17:46 GMT
#18642
I run ASpeed Marks, MSpeed Quints, Mp5pL Seals + Glyphs. I still just do D-Ring or Boots -> GRB + Zerkers -> Nashor's -> Triple elixirs though. With your manamune build, I'd honestly run different Seals/Glyphs though, I'm just not sure what yet.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 17 2010 17:47 GMT
#18643
On September 18 2010 02:38 IntoTheWow wrote:
Poppy is Tristana's ugly cousin

But she is sexy!
In the woods, there lurks..
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 17 2010 17:47 GMT
#18644
You could be like Ilyvm and run Manamune + GRB + Archangel o/
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 17 2010 17:50 GMT
#18645
Yeck, not a fan of Archangel's at all. I'd take tooth over it any day of the week for the CDR/attackspeed.

I've been considering replacing my blues with ap/lv... right now I'm tinkering with putting my flat APs in as placeholders.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 17 2010 17:50 GMT
#18646
-_-'

manamune + archangels is bad
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 17 2010 17:51 GMT
#18647
Riot's plans to equalize survival and dps:

+ Show Spoiler +

DEMACIAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111ONEONEONEELEVEN







wait i mean http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2953053#post2953053
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 17 2010 17:53 GMT
#18648
On September 18 2010 02:50 Mogwai wrote:
archangels is bad

Fixed it for you
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 17:54:47
September 17 2010 17:54 GMT
#18649
haha, I'm sorry Riot-haters but I kinda love those guys.

EDIT: it's especially bad when it gives 1000 less mana than it should.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 17 2010 17:54 GMT
#18650
On September 18 2010 02:50 Mogwai wrote:
-_-'

manamune + archangels is bad


Don't ask me, it was one of the best WWs in the game doing that :p

His heal packed quite a punch though lol.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
yazu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States255 Posts
September 17 2010 17:55 GMT
#18651
On September 18 2010 02:51 Phrost wrote:
Riot's plans to equalize survival and dps:

+ Show Spoiler +

DEMACIAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111ONEONEONEELEVEN







wait i mean http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2953053#post2953053


LoL..... that gave me a good laugh..... the comments from the forums that is not zileans. =P
g.cuisine
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 17 2010 17:55 GMT
#18652
Just get a fucking Z-Ring. That shit's simply bonkers on Kayle.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
September 17 2010 17:57 GMT
#18653
Thanks for all the Kayle info. Her last hitting will take getting used to, especially if I have to lane against Garen/Morde again (Surely up there with Kog/Taric or Taric/everyone).

When will they release a new damn Malphite skin...both of his ones are so boring.
I'm becoming a pretty good malph, I might write a guide but I don't think anyone here will actually care about him.
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 18:04:40
September 17 2010 17:59 GMT
#18654
Hi, I'm a noob and I would like your opinion on the build I use. I'm a level 20 playing mostly with Gragas. I play him as a tank going for Body Slam and Drunken Rage early. I started playing him as AP than looked around for some guides and started using one with an early attack dmg item for early aggression and although it worked well early / mid-game in my exp in slowed me down from becoming a good tank too much. And I like being a good tank, so I tweaked and tweaked until it became something completely different. Enough about that.

Spells Ignite and Ghost

I start of with a Regrowth Pendant. My second item is a Heart of Gold followed by boots; 8/10 times Mercury's Treads, Ninja Tabi in the other cases. Nowadays I finish Randuin's Omen next. I used to do it a lot latter, because I was getting Spirit Visage, but I cut it out. Next is Negatron Cloak and Giant's Belt (order of these two is how I feel lke it at the spot lol). Sunfire cape is next -> finish Force of nature. Guardian Angel and last Banshee's Veil. If the game isn't over yet I don't know what to get anymore. :D

So what I used to do before was instead of finishing Randium's Omen I got Null-Magic Mantle than Giant's belt, finish Spirit Visage, finish Sunfire cape and than go for RO. But when I was in games that went on for a very long time I would sell SV and get a GA, so I just sort of changed the build on the fly and that's how it's been.

Runes and Masteries

AS marks. Leftover from the early builds I was doing. Dodge seals and cdr glyphs.

[Edit]
Didn't know runes were different tiers. Otherwise I would have saved the points. [/edit]

Curretly I'm at 0/16/4. I plan to spend the next 10 points on offense. Get the cdr on the offense tree and the 15% magic penetration.

That's it. Any advice tips are welcome and appreciated. Like I said I'm a noob, haven't played a ranked game yet.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 17 2010 17:59 GMT
#18655
what? Morde + anyone is the easiest lane in the world to lane again.

step 1: let Morde push the lane
step 2: last hit creeps within the safety of your own tower
step 3: repeat steps 1 and 2 for 15 minutes
step 4: buy your core items
step 5: ??????
step 6: profit
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
September 17 2010 18:00 GMT
#18656
If you have trouble last hitting, you can try something like E > W = Q on kayle... having range + bonus attack makes it pretty darn easy.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 17 2010 18:03 GMT
#18657
Honestly you should always be maxing W on her first because of the movespeed bonus. You don't need extra damage on your auto-attack because you're just last-hitting. I go R>W>Q>E after opening EWQ because Q makes E do more damage anyway.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 17 2010 18:07 GMT
#18658
On September 18 2010 02:59 sashkata wrote:
Hi, I'm a noob and I would like your opinion on the build I use. I'm a level 20 playing mostly with Gragas. I play him as a tank going for Body Slam and Drunken Rage early. I started playing him as AP than looked around for some guides and started using one with an early attack dmg item for early aggression and although it worked well early / mid-game in my exp in slowed me down from becoming a good tank too much. And I like being a good tank, so I tweaked and tweaked until it became something completely different. Enough about that.

Spells Ignite and Ghost

I start of with a Regrowth Pendant. My second item is a Heart of Gold followed by boots; 8/10 times Mercury's Treads, Ninja Tabi in the other cases. Nowadays I finish Randuin's Omen next. I used to do it a lot latter, because I was getting Spirit Visage, but I cut it out. Next is Negatron Cloak and Giant's Belt (order of these two is how I feel lke it at the spot lol). Sunfire cape is next -> finish Force of nature. Guardian Angel and last Banshee's Veil. If the game isn't over yet I don't know what to get anymore. :D

So what I used to do before was instead of finishing Randium's Omen I got Null-Magic Mantle than Giant's belt, finish Spirit Visage, finish Sunfire cape and than go for RO. But when I was in games that went on for a very long time I would sell SV and get a GA, so I just sort of changed the build on the fly and that's how it's been.

Runes and Masteries

AS marks. Leftover from the early builds I was doing. Dodge seals and cdr glyphs.

Curretly I'm at 0/16/4. I plan to spend the next 10 points on offense. Get the cdr on the offense tree and the 15% magic penetration.

That's it. Any advice tips are welcome and appreciated. Like I said I'm a noob, haven't played a ranked game yet.

Sounds like you more or less have the right idea with what tanking items to get, but you should probably just keep your order more flexible. Personally I think you had the right idea earlier on with a later Omen. It's expensive to finish Omen and I think you're better off milking the HoG for all the extra gold it's worth over another item or two before finishing Omen unless you desperately need that slow + armor. No idea why you're putting 4 in utility (people like utility for everything past tier 1, but tier 1 is garbage other than improved ghost), your masteries could certainly use some work, but you'll probably figure it out.

I'd give you more character specific advice if I knew jack about gragas, but I've only played him a couple times so I'll just leave it at that.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 17 2010 18:08 GMT
#18659
I prefer E>Q because it lowers the cooldown so you can use it more often.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 17 2010 18:08 GMT
#18660
On September 18 2010 03:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Honestly you should always be maxing W on her first because of the movespeed bonus. You don't need extra damage on your auto-attack because you're just last-hitting. I go R>W>Q>E after opening EWQ because Q makes E do more damage anyway.

the movespeed bonus no longer scales. they changed that like 2 or 3 patches ago, LOL.

Q vs. W is preference, but they're both pretty clearly superior to E IMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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