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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 16 2010 02:10 GMT
#18321
xcept its usually 1v1 top, for the most part, since the enemy team will have a jungler too. Thats where the deny comes in real handy, since you'll hit 6 before your enemy.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 16 2010 02:24 GMT
#18322
Except no one really cares if GP hits 6 before his enemy. The whole point of GP is just to be a dick to one of their solos.

He's not bad, he's not good, he's just overwhelmingly underwhelming and it's hard to have a tangible impact with him that a player of that calibur couldn't have achieved with another character. He's "fun to play" though.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 16 2010 02:46 GMT
#18323
On September 16 2010 08:10 Jazriel wrote:
Has anyone tested +XP runes/masteries? It's something that's been sitting in the back of my mind, but is it possible to create some kind of combination (Including allied Zilean) that allows you to basically rush levels?


It would have to be very well planned out to work properly, I could see maybe a jungling hero who isn't completely dependent on quints to jungle faster (maybe mumu) using this strategy to get an early 6 with bandage and ult for a key gank. But I don't think that the entire team should run exp quints, as the physical damage dealers would really miss the extra armor pen etc. It would require a bit of theorycrafting
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
September 16 2010 02:54 GMT
#18324
Hey, I just started playing a week ago or so.
Add me to the US list, ingame name is "oijdiouc HEHENFO" (yea, i randomly slamed my keyboard for that)
Question about jungle amumu, having no runes, and few masterys (lvl 11) I find it imposible to go blue buff first. I open cloth armor + red pots and despair. Am I doing it wrong? should I go another path? Is jungle amumu only good when you have runes?
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
September 16 2010 03:04 GMT
#18325
Meehhh tbh GP and his handy deny is just as good in the bottom 2v2. The experience loss isn't that noticeable at all really, the other benefits from denying are more important. For instance I saved myself and to some extent a mentally retarded nunu from having to be completely destroyed by the dreaded Taric/Garen combo. And of course since the lane is so pushed the jungler can get a pretty easy gank. And finally the money loss... which probably has a bigger impact than experience IMO.

It is hard to make a large impact on the game with GP that you couldn't with other characters if you're not farmed like a beast. He doesn't have the absolute slaying power of a Yi if you're playing DPS nor the manliness of Garen if you're going tanky.
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 16 2010 03:05 GMT
#18326
At 30 with full runes and masteries an amumu will be at about 100-150hp if they start with blue first (and an easy gank target for me).
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 16 2010 03:12 GMT
#18327
On September 16 2010 12:05 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
At 30 with full runes and masteries an amumu will be at about 100-150hp if they start with blue first (and an easy gank target for me).



really bad amumus? i go golem lvl 1 and half at least half my hp left when i finish it (400+)
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 16 2010 03:33 GMT
#18328
typically anyone who starts blue first will be a fairly easy gank target, which is why its the rest of the team's responsibility to protect their jungler while he gets blue. Im quite happy to split some of my experience if it means i can reliably get blue (not to mention that we sometimes get free kills when fools wander into the dragon's cave >:3 )
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 16 2010 03:34 GMT
#18329
That's two games today I nearly lost to the enemy Yi taking mid. In neither do I know whether our mid was bad or the Yi was good or /i just didn't gank him hard enough, but it seemed quite workable.
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
September 16 2010 03:41 GMT
#18330
On September 16 2010 12:33 barbsq wrote:
typically anyone who starts blue first will be a fairly easy gank target, which is why its the rest of the team's responsibility to protect their jungler while he gets blue. Im quite happy to split some of my experience if it means i can reliably get blue (not to mention that we sometimes get free kills when fools wander into the dragon's cave >:3 )

Nah amumu is one of the champs that can do blue first the most safely, since you have armor yellows it generally leaves you with a good amount of hp.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
September 16 2010 03:50 GMT
#18331
On September 16 2010 12:41 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 12:33 barbsq wrote:
typically anyone who starts blue first will be a fairly easy gank target, which is why its the rest of the team's responsibility to protect their jungler while he gets blue. Im quite happy to split some of my experience if it means i can reliably get blue (not to mention that we sometimes get free kills when fools wander into the dragon's cave >:3 )
Nah amumu is one of the champs that can do blue first the most safely, since you have armor yellows it generally leaves you with a good amount of hp.
... he said "failr easy gank target". creeps dont gank and yellow armors won't make a difference against 5 heroes. amumu easily has one of the most "fragile" jungle routes.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 16 2010 03:52 GMT
#18332
On September 16 2010 12:50 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 12:41 r33k wrote:
On September 16 2010 12:33 barbsq wrote:
typically anyone who starts blue first will be a fairly easy gank target, which is why its the rest of the team's responsibility to protect their jungler while he gets blue. Im quite happy to split some of my experience if it means i can reliably get blue (not to mention that we sometimes get free kills when fools wander into the dragon's cave >:3 )
Nah amumu is one of the champs that can do blue first the most safely, since you have armor yellows it generally leaves you with a good amount of hp.
... he said "failr easy gank target". creeps dont gank and yellow armors won't make a difference against 5 heroes. amumu easily has one of the most "fragile" jungle routes.

In light of this, how does the Wraiths->Sit in mid till lvl 2->Golem start compare to the normal lvl 1 Golem?
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 16 2010 03:55 GMT
#18333
if ur not doing blue first, i actually like wraiths -> wolves -> little golems -> recall -> blue. u shouldnt need to sit in middle's lane unless he steals your xp (in which case he deserves it a bit)
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
September 16 2010 04:15 GMT
#18334
Runes for that jungle amumu setup?

I'm saving ip for it
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 16 2010 04:16 GMT
#18335
Korea angel runs a full armor setup on jungle Mumu.
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Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
September 16 2010 04:38 GMT
#18336
You mean all armour runes?

What about mpen and regen etc..
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 04:40:19
September 16 2010 04:39 GMT
#18337
Full armor.

Edit:
In fairness he's changed that now to
Flat HP Quints
HPpl Seals
Flat MR marks/glyphs
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Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 04:43:05
September 16 2010 04:41 GMT
#18338
So my Laptop died during the summer and revived it for a month with 'oven bake reflow' DIY. It worked great until the graphics started to mess up again... slowly.

Started playing LoL and brought in all my friends (instead of playing SC2 Dota), but I could only play a few games at a time because..

First sign of GPU failure: There would be a strange polygon on Ashe's model. It stuck out horizontally out of her hip and was the length of her height. It followed her as the modelled moved and appeared on both Ashes and was light blue.

2nd sign: The fog of war would begin to recede sporadically. I would have to actually walk past the black edge until the terrain updated with my vision. Now I'm starting to sweat because I know something bad is going to happen soon.

Sign of Impending doom: I was playing Mundo and had to go back to shop after laning. Once I got to the shop I saw a Meki Pendant in my inventory in the shop screen (WTF?!!?). The mouse over txt was also mana regen but the recipe screen showed it was used for an emblem of valor. Wow... How can I be pulling the item into my display?

*Mumble safety word for my laptop telling me to stop*
I yell Banana Bread into my mic several times over saying I'll be back after I restart my comp and cool it down.

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Can't until my new computer comes in. Might have to bake it again.
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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 16 2010 04:43 GMT
#18339
On September 16 2010 12:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 12:50 redtooth wrote:
On September 16 2010 12:41 r33k wrote:
On September 16 2010 12:33 barbsq wrote:
typically anyone who starts blue first will be a fairly easy gank target, which is why its the rest of the team's responsibility to protect their jungler while he gets blue. Im quite happy to split some of my experience if it means i can reliably get blue (not to mention that we sometimes get free kills when fools wander into the dragon's cave >:3 )
Nah amumu is one of the champs that can do blue first the most safely, since you have armor yellows it generally leaves you with a good amount of hp.
... he said "failr easy gank target". creeps dont gank and yellow armors won't make a difference against 5 heroes. amumu easily has one of the most "fragile" jungle routes.

In light of this, how does the Wraiths->Sit in mid till lvl 2->Golem start compare to the normal lvl 1 Golem?

I disapprove of mumus who do that. Stealing exp from mid = bad imo. It can be crucial in some match-ups.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 16 2010 04:44 GMT
#18340
guys what are the heaviest champs?
like champs that when they go 0-6, are NOT coming back from that start and will continue to just be a burden on your team and not even olaf gragas and garen together are strong enough to carry that weight?

i think ashe is probably the heaviest, if you get down early you've got literally no way to farm up and no real application to a teamfight beyond a perfectly aimed arrow and if you leave your base someone will eat you

i want to say that nasus is pretty heavy too. just had a jungle eve game where i started 7-0-9, had all my tank items by 20 minutes, and was just wreaking havoc on the other team... unfortunately annie was 0-3 and nasus was 0-5-0 and while annie can throw out a bear stun, if nasus is bad the other team has NO reason to focus him even with his ult on imo. ended up losing because of some bad decision making and positioning but nasus was a nonfactor literally all game :\ on the bright side i went something like 8-4-25 total endgame

trynd is another really heavy champ imo

i hate to say it but shen weighs a lot if he's not effective early. if you don't have some ridiculous assist ratio (or at least a couple kills) by 30 minutes when you start to drop off, you're not even a tank at that point, you're just a kinda beefy support that doesn't really even soak up damage

kassadin lol. hey look at me you'll never catch me as i blink around the map doing absolutely nothing weeeeeeeeee
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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