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Kultcher
United States150 Posts
On September 14 2010 15:47 Brees wrote: seems like a top tier support to be frank. Numbers wont even matter, an AOE CC as ult and support capabilities bye all supports except taric I wouldn't write Janna off just yet. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
throw an aegis and some tank items on this bitch and just roll the enemy team at level 11 imo | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If she turns out to be good, she might be the first 6300 champ I buy (assuming she's 6300 like most of the champs these days). | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
As for Eve changes, no way is it a nerf. Perhaps she won't be as good at ganking but the increase in team utility more than makes up for it. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 14 2010 18:33 Scamp wrote: Making people dance is a pretty cool feature, IMO. As for Eve changes, no way is it a nerf. Perhaps she won't be as good at ganking but the increase in team utility more than makes up for it. Hate spike buffed, but that will only make a real difference if you get to stack AP. And then you don't really survive long enough. Shadow Walk seems fairly useless now aside from dashing in to place the ult, but the new Ravage also helps with that. Ravage buffed overall I guess. Ult is strong, but kinda meh. AoE damage and slow sure is helpful but it's nothing special. She might actually be a really strong ganker starting at level 6, W -> E -> R do charge in and slow. But that's pretty much all she does besides sticking around and dealing a bit of damage over time. | ||
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On September 14 2010 18:55 Yiruru wrote: Can someone explain to me why I get +7/-20 per game, especially when every win is from me and every loss is from my teammate ? . ? Because this is a team game, and if you can't carry teams by yourself 75% of the time then obviously you can't be very good! *rolls eyes* Seriously, the kind of people I hear about from players who are at 15-1700 on the ladder are amazing, considering that they've gotten that far. On a seperate rant, Riot really needs to do something about the ability of people to ruin solo queue games through selfishness. I've only played one ranked game to date, and the experience was so bad that I don't think i'll be repeating it any time soon. A friend of mine offered to duo queue with me, and he wound up with team captain and picked Ezreal. The 4th pick, upon seeing this, declares that they want mid... then the third pick picks Tristana and the fourth picks AKALI. We're completely unable to reason with them, and they threaten to simply AFK the match if they don't get mid. We went along with it, figuring that we probably had a better chance with 5 people in the wrong lanes than 4 period. Unsurprisingly, we lost horribly because the Akali was a feeder and got outlevelled by the duo lane. What the fuck are you supposed to do when that happens? There should never be a situation where your team is held hostage by the 4th/5th pick with their options being "take a loss/leave" and "pray they're not terrible". | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
Second time in a 3 games that a guy tries to jungle olaf for the fucking first time and ends up going 0-4 > leave. Im hating this olaf free week. | ||
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
Either people absolutely refuse to listen, or don't answer me when I ask what they're playing, picking some shitty hero and trying to solo. Or the players that die to jungle. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
 But yeah, being held hostage by players that are probably worse than the unranked people you're playing with just doesn't sound very fun to me. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Ashe fires 9 arrows in a cone for 150% damage. Volley also applies Ashe's current level of Frost Shot. Spell Effect Ashe fires 7 arrows in a cone dealing attack damage +40/50/60/70/80. Volley also applies Frost Shot. From: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ashe_The_Frost_Archer Ashe fires 7 arrows in a cone for 150% damage. Volley also applies Ashe's current level of Frost Shot. * Cost: 60 Mana * Range: 1200 Extra Damage: 40 / 50 / 60 / 70 / 80 Cooldown: 20 / 16 / 12 / 8 / 4 seconds. From: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/champions/22/ashe_the_frost_archer Volley - Ashe fires 7 arrows in a cone for increased damage. Volley also applies Ashe's current level of Frost Shot. Ashe fires 7 arrows in a cone dealing 40/50/60/70/80 (+) physical damage. Volley also applies Frost Shot. Cost: 60/60/60/60/60 Mana Range: 600 Are there any reliable sources? The first quote even contradicts itself. I am pretty sure that it's not 1200 range, but I also think that it's more than 600. Maybe 700. I really should try to find out if it's 150% AD, but I doubt it. That would mean 7.5 AD ratio against 5 champions... | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
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Spyridon
United States997 Posts
On September 14 2010 09:59 Corr wrote: So, having played my first 12 or so games of LoL a couple of things get to me: - Farming isn't anywhere near as powerful as it is in DotA - You rely way more on your team than in DotA: Say you have a team of the following skill levels based on numbers: Team A) 100+25+25+25+25 versus Team B) 40+40+40+40+40. In DotA team A would have a realistic shot at winning if the "100" skill guy picked a decent carry hero and wasn't awfully counter-picked. In LoL it seems you can't do shit nomatter how much you farm because items don't matter that much and you can't counter-push as much. - If you're behind, and somehow manage to snipe one of their creep structures through counter-pushing you're still not really back in the game because they can just defend until it respawns. Right? Wrong? Help me out here? Been trying to carry with Sivir using teleport for counterpush, I'm nto sure what items to get though, tried doing recommended items, then following a guide (which had jack all worth of damage items, imo) In response to "if you are behind"... it's actually very different. I feel like it's the opposite of what you say - I find it MUCH easier to get back in the fight if your behind. In LoL you dont lose gold when you die. Which means your not set back as much. But consider this scenario - Let's say you are behind by quite a bit, 2 of the enemies are on a badass kill streak. Take them both out and you instantly got 1k gold from each of them. If that happens a couple times in a match you will find your right back in the game. Also, later the game gets you have time to catch up on gear (considering you dont lose the gold on death). I've had many games that have had a bad start (even like 0/10) and came back to cut even or become positive. I've also had many matches that I thought our team had no chance of winning, where we pulled it off with awesome teamwork and hard fought battles (sometimes outnumbered). In DotA, if a character gets that far ahead they are able to single handedly mop up the entire team and they will have no chance at catching up. Regarding your issues... It's probably a big part to due with the fact that your Sivir. She's a great pusher/farmer, but she lacks killing power vs players and definately isnt anywhere near the best carry. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
Cooldown, range, arrows, mana seems right. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 14 2010 20:33 Phrost wrote: i believe the 2nd one is right except its damage + 80 not 150% damage. Cooldown, range, arrows, mana seems right. I highly doubt the 1200 range. That's twice her autoattack range. I'm pretty sure it's actually somewhere between 600 and 900. (especially if the 1100 hawkshot range they state on the same page is right) Haven't counted the arrows yet, mana is certainly right, and cooldown should be correct as well. Those are easy to get right though :p | ||
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Deleted User 30223
3104 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3972/apkatftw2.png) ![[image loading]](http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4641/apkatftw3.png) oh my god i love AP kat. my first ever quadra and penta kill (both acquired separately) in a single game. <3 | ||
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MidKnight
Lithuania884 Posts
On September 14 2010 20:32 Spyridon wrote: In response to "if you are behind"... it's actually very different. I feel like it's the opposite of what you say - I find it MUCH easier to get back in the fight if your behind. In LoL you dont lose gold when you die. Which means your not set back as much. But consider this scenario - Let's say you are behind by quite a bit, 2 of the enemies are on a badass kill streak. Take them both out and you instantly got 1k gold from each of them. If that happens a couple times in a match you will find your right back in the game. Also, later the game gets you have time to catch up on gear (considering you dont lose the gold on death). I've had many games that have had a bad start (even like 0/10) and came back to cut even or become positive. I've also had many matches that I thought our team had no chance of winning, where we pulled it off with awesome teamwork and hard fought battles (sometimes outnumbered). In DotA, if a character gets that far ahead they are able to single handedly mop up the entire team and they will have no chance at catching up. Regarding your issues... It's probably a big part to due with the fact that your Sivir. She's a great pusher/farmer, but she lacks killing power vs players and definately isnt anywhere near the best carry. Yep, I don't know why do some people think that snowbal-effect is that bad in LoL. It's really small compared DoTA, where if the result after five minutes is like 9-2, you really can't come back. In LoL winning a single team fight can win you the whole game if you have good pushers, as turrets are pretty paper-ish lategame and you can easily push down 2 towers + inhib + nexus turrets in 30-40s. I'm guilty of qqing to my team about surrendering as soon as we hit 25 min and then coming back because opposing team got too cocky and tower dived us. | ||
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