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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 19 2010 17:43 GMT
#13221
curse you Southlight!

anyway, holy shit Akali falls off late game. I carried my team through like 30 minutes last night, and then every teamfight became a shitstorm of Mundo Cleavers/Headbutts, Shen Taunts, and random Garen crap all coming my way as I tried to blow my load on Yi or Ashe. uhg, I was finally getting my team to a useful point too, but they had already taken 2 inhib towers by they time we could beat them in teamfights and fucking Yi ducking out with CANNOT BE SLOWED and BDing our inhibs was just too strong for us to ever actually push out.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 19 2010 17:56 GMT
#13222
I've just started using Malzahar cuz I think that he has some decent potential. Any advice or tips on using him and what match ups to avoid/capitalize on?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 19 2010 18:16 GMT
#13223
Malz is pretty bad all around IMO
it's my first day
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 18:49:18
August 19 2010 18:48 GMT
#13224
Mal has a problem in that he's very reliant on mass CC on his team; he can only stop one target, but it stops himself as well, so he needs to have the rest of his team stop everyone else or at least keep focus off of him. Also he doesn't do enough damage so he's pretty ignorable otherwise. He has no escape mechanism, no CC that doesn't also CC himself, and takes a while to get going (is farm-hero, except AP heroes that need to mass farm and only take one person out usually suck, see Veigar).

I think Ignite/Ghost is necessary on him (to maximize damage output), and most people I've seen rush Rylai so at least his stuff get a snare effect.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#13225
Gratz to mrgerry/Spudboy for being top 20 solo queue ranked!
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 19 2010 19:23 GMT
#13226
Grats~
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 19 2010 19:25 GMT
#13227
hes kinda like veigar except veigar has a big stun instead of silence and he can get his big nuke off and then gtfo instead of having to stick around asking to be exploded. he just doesnt ahve enough utility and he doesnt really burst which kills his survivability.
lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 19:35:45
August 19 2010 19:34 GMT
#13228
On August 20 2010 00:54 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 00:44 lgd-haze wrote:
Isn't there any love for Malza as pusher? While you aren't good at killing the turret, getting there is just a walk in the park. Haven't played against any heimer though. But Sivir got nothing on Malz when you get rank 4-5 of MV


yea! you hear that Sivir!? You're abilitiy to kill an entire creep way in 2 seconds ain't got nothin' on my single target 80 damage/second ability that lasts for 4 seconds and bounces around when they die!


Are you mocking me?
It usually takes 4-5 seconds for Malz to clear a wave mid game. At what time of the game do you estimate Sivir to clear it in 2 seconds?
I'm not questioning your knowledge of the game, as you know much mroe than me for certain.

Edit: I'm not defending that Malzahar is viable at high level play or anything. Just his abillity to have the mid lane early is really strong from what I've gathered.
Flying Tushin!!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 19:44:12
August 19 2010 19:42 GMT
#13229
K well...If Malz isn't really very good, who would you guys suggest? I'm usually a Shaco player, but since he is usually banned at higher level play, I want to get good at a different champ to be viable. The thing I love about Shaco is his ability to get in, gank, and get out relatively unharmed. I want a champ who is great at ganking and has the survivability to be useful in team fights. Any suggestions?

Side note: I would like to try someone who isn't an assassin. If I want to play assassin, I can be Shaco, I freaking love playing him. But if there are other viable candidates...
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APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
August 19 2010 19:43 GMT
#13230
Most junglers are good at ganking and very survivable. Mumu, Udyr, Rammus, WW, etc.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 19 2010 19:44 GMT
#13231
On August 20 2010 04:34 lgd-haze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 00:54 Mogwai wrote:
On August 20 2010 00:44 lgd-haze wrote:
Isn't there any love for Malza as pusher? While you aren't good at killing the turret, getting there is just a walk in the park. Haven't played against any heimer though. But Sivir got nothing on Malz when you get rank 4-5 of MV


yea! you hear that Sivir!? You're abilitiy to kill an entire creep way in 2 seconds ain't got nothin' on my single target 80 damage/second ability that lasts for 4 seconds and bounces around when they die!


Are you mocking me?
It usually takes 4-5 seconds for Malz to clear a wave mid game. At what time of the game do you estimate Sivir to clear it in 2 seconds?
I'm not questioning your knowledge of the game, as you know much mroe than me for certain.

Edit: I'm not defending that Malzahar is viable at high level play or anything. Just his abillity to have the mid lane early is really strong from what I've gathered.

haha, yea, I'm mocking you, sry, it's all in good fun. Once Sivir gets a BF Sword, she will maul a creep wave in nothing flat with Boomerang Blade as they approach in a line and then like, 1-2 auto attacks, voila no more creep wave. I know Mal is a decent farmer, but the only people who can out-speed Sivir on creep waves are people with non-DoT AoE spells that one shot whole creep waves like a super fed TF/Janna vs. an approaching creep wave or old Pantheon vs. a large built up creep wave, and all of them are far more conditional with when and how they can decimate a creep wave while sivir just doesn't give a fuck and will kill the shit out of any sized and shaped creep wave in > 5 seconds at any point past level 7 or so.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 19 2010 19:54 GMT
#13232
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DROPPED BACK INTO LOW ELO HELLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i'm getting paired with players 100 elo below me every game... leavers every game... feed in lane and buy snowball items before boots every game... need.... duo... quickly.... fading fast...
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 19:57:59
August 19 2010 19:56 GMT
#13233
i had a shen who said he didn't need health items because vorpal was "enough lifesteal" fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

and in this game, we have first pick amumu jungler, our last pick takes WW fffffffffffffffffffffffff
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 19 2010 20:01 GMT
#13234
I get queued with 1400s all the time. What's your point about 100 under? :p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 19 2010 20:04 GMT
#13235
On August 20 2010 04:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
K well...If Malz isn't really very good, who would you guys suggest? I'm usually a Shaco player, but since he is usually banned at higher level play, I want to get good at a different champ to be viable. The thing I love about Shaco is his ability to get in, gank, and get out relatively unharmed. I want a champ who is great at ganking and has the survivability to be useful in team fights. Any suggestions?

Side note: I would like to try someone who isn't an assassin. If I want to play assassin, I can be Shaco, I freaking love playing him. But if there are other viable candidates...



I'd recommend Kassadin. To me, what makes Shaco really fun to me was his deceive. Kassadin's void walk is probably the second best escape mechanism in the game. This makes him an incredibly strong ganker that allows you to be creative in your play. Oh and people will hate you for your silence.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 19 2010 20:05 GMT
#13236
On August 20 2010 05:01 Southlight wrote:
I get queued with 1400s all the time. What's your point about 100 under? :p

i am on the lucky end of there stick there (with MM atm atleast)
my skill level is probally around the 1300's. Maybe higher on a good day. But recently (also while learning udyr - so that might be the reason). I dropped from 1350 to 1198 in 4 leaver games, then a few games where lategame team falls apart. Luckily I am lucky and getting paired as the lowest elo 2-3 times a row now.
Feels weird being treated good by the queue
In the woods, there lurks..
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 19 2010 20:22 GMT
#13237
On August 20 2010 05:04 Athos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 04:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
K well...If Malz isn't really very good, who would you guys suggest? I'm usually a Shaco player, but since he is usually banned at higher level play, I want to get good at a different champ to be viable. The thing I love about Shaco is his ability to get in, gank, and get out relatively unharmed. I want a champ who is great at ganking and has the survivability to be useful in team fights. Any suggestions?

Side note: I would like to try someone who isn't an assassin. If I want to play assassin, I can be Shaco, I freaking love playing him. But if there are other viable candidates...



I'd recommend Kassadin. To me, what makes Shaco really fun to me was his deceive. Kassadin's void walk is probably the second best escape mechanism in the game. This makes him an incredibly strong ganker that allows you to be creative in your play. Oh and people will hate you for your silence.


I was looking at him before, and I just read up a bit on him. He looks like exactly what I want!
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 19 2010 20:25 GMT
#13238
southlight's probably top 5 Kassadins on the server right now, so you also have easy access to a good source of information on Kass.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 19 2010 20:28 GMT
#13239
On August 20 2010 04:23 Mogwai wrote:
Gratz to mrgerry/Spudboy for being top 20 solo queue ranked!


i feel so loved~~
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 19 2010 20:29 GMT
#13240
On August 20 2010 05:25 Mogwai wrote:
southlight's probably top 5 Kassadins on the server right now, so you also have easy access to a good source of information on Kass.
AND I'M #1 CHOGATH.
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