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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 19 2010 01:27 GMT
#13101
Dodge yields the most survival of any possible stat against physical dps. Unfortunately (or fortunately) there are not many ways to get dodge when you're not jax.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 01:52:30
August 19 2010 01:51 GMT
#13102
I don't think dodge is bad on any tank.. taking hits is what your meant to do yes.. but you dont actually want to take all of the damage and die instantly.. that's why you build armor/mres, health and least frequently dodge... if your dodging it doesn't mean your not doing your job, it means you are doing your job.. their attacking you... I get dodge masteries quite a bit.. I pretty much always get merc treads though.. I got an addiction to merc treads.. even against 5 phys dps if they have a stun or something Im probably building merc treads, and then ill get thornmail to make up for it
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 19 2010 02:24 GMT
#13103
On August 19 2010 10:21 gtrsrs wrote:
extremely, shaco is good at all levels of play
unfortunately, everyone knows this, and he is banned in 98% of games

yes, unlike heim where u can pick counter, shaco is pretty flexible and can be used in different ways so there is no way you can shut him down just by normal harass

Plus money on wards is also an investment. the best way to nerf shaco is reduce ward price to 120 and oracle to 380 or 350
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 19 2010 02:27 GMT
#13104
On August 19 2010 10:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So I check in on this thread everyone once in a while just because I play LoL only when I'm in the mood for just micro. I haven't seen much mention of Shaco, and I was wondering if he is still good once you hit level 30. I'm currently level 10, but whenever I'm in quick matches, I top champ kills and often minion kills, and I wreck havoc overall. I find the hit and run assassin tactics very fun, and was just curious if they would still be viable down the road.


no one talks about shaco cause hes banned all the time so you cant play him anyways.
G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
August 19 2010 02:28 GMT
#13105
hsgg is on ustream now

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/clgame/v3
The Emperor - The Genius - The Cheater - The Maestro
Deleted User 50491
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
721 Posts
August 19 2010 02:57 GMT
#13106
Nice, I wonder when I watch most top end Games Ashe Is never played?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 19 2010 02:57 GMT
#13107
Does heimerdinger really suck? Because I was kicking ass with him tonight
Deleted User 50491
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
721 Posts
August 19 2010 02:59 GMT
#13108
On August 19 2010 11:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Does heimerdinger really suck? Because I was kicking ass with him tonight


Lol no hes really high end a top tier.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 03:38:06
August 19 2010 03:37 GMT
#13109
On August 19 2010 11:24 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 10:21 gtrsrs wrote:
extremely, shaco is good at all levels of play
unfortunately, everyone knows this, and he is banned in 98% of games
yes, unlike heim where u can pick counter, shaco is pretty flexible and can be used in different ways so there is no way you can shut him down just by normal harass

Plus money on wards is also an investment. the best way to nerf shaco is reduce ward price to 120 and oracle to 380 or 350
what "counterpicks" heimer? please enlighten me. seriously, my team basically auto-loses against heimer . yet we're pretty decent against tank teams (poppy imba) and always shit on shaco (if you know how to play shaco then you know how to beat him).

we should do the shit they do in the SC2 forums.
makes you sound so much nerdier haha:
"oh 1600 solo Elo btw"
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FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 03:42:27
August 19 2010 03:41 GMT
#13110
HOW DO BEAT SHACO PLZ TELL
ban mright?
skyhighftw on iccup
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
August 19 2010 03:42 GMT
#13111
On August 19 2010 12:37 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 11:24 NB wrote:
On August 19 2010 10:21 gtrsrs wrote:
extremely, shaco is good at all levels of play
unfortunately, everyone knows this, and he is banned in 98% of games
yes, unlike heim where u can pick counter, shaco is pretty flexible and can be used in different ways so there is no way you can shut him down just by normal harass

Plus money on wards is also an investment. the best way to nerf shaco is reduce ward price to 120 and oracle to 380 or 350
what "counterpicks" heimer? please enlighten me. seriously, my team basically auto-loses against heimer . yet we're pretty decent against tank teams (poppy imba) and always shit on shaco (if you know how to play shaco then you know how to beat him).

we should do the shit they do in the SC2 forums.
makes you sound so much nerdier haha:
"oh 1600 solo Elo btw"


people say nunu/anivia are good picks vs heimer, but tbh.. I just think heimers really good no matter what char your using
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 19 2010 03:43 GMT
#13112
On August 19 2010 11:59 Kuo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 11:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Does heimerdinger really suck? Because I was kicking ass with him tonight


Lol no hes really high end a top tier.

Ah I saw some posts from Dec. 2009 saying he sucked and needed a buff. Guess it came, lol.
Deleted User 50491
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
721 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 03:43:59
August 19 2010 03:43 GMT
#13113
I think banning Shaco/Heimer in draft is worth it A good Heimer is a pain in the ass and can push really early and just rock.

I think Ashe Volley is good vs heimer if you have mp5 runes
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
August 19 2010 03:43 GMT
#13114
On August 19 2010 12:41 FlameSworD wrote:
HOW DO BEAT SHACO PLZ TELL
ban mright?


spend 150 gold.. :D... ward runs out.. shaco kills you.. rawr.. cry cause you meant to ban him
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 19 2010 03:45 GMT
#13115
On August 19 2010 12:37 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 11:24 NB wrote:
On August 19 2010 10:21 gtrsrs wrote:
extremely, shaco is good at all levels of play
unfortunately, everyone knows this, and he is banned in 98% of games
yes, unlike heim where u can pick counter, shaco is pretty flexible and can be used in different ways so there is no way you can shut him down just by normal harass

Plus money on wards is also an investment. the best way to nerf shaco is reduce ward price to 120 and oracle to 380 or 350
what "counterpicks" heimer? please enlighten me. seriously, my team basically auto-loses against heimer . yet we're pretty decent against tank teams (poppy imba) and always shit on shaco (if you know how to play shaco then you know how to beat him).

we should do the shit they do in the SC2 forums.
makes you sound so much nerdier haha:
"oh 1600 solo Elo btw"


This one time I watched a stream and LoCicero picked Nunu and owned a Heimer, that means it's a counter, it does!

I really do think that's what started the 'Heimer can be countered' thing; there are definitely champs that do pretty well against him but they don't fit into any decent comps right now, so it's obviously better to just keep Heim banned.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
August 19 2010 03:50 GMT
#13116
On August 19 2010 12:37 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 11:24 NB wrote:
On August 19 2010 10:21 gtrsrs wrote:
extremely, shaco is good at all levels of play
unfortunately, everyone knows this, and he is banned in 98% of games
yes, unlike heim where u can pick counter, shaco is pretty flexible and can be used in different ways so there is no way you can shut him down just by normal harass

Plus money on wards is also an investment. the best way to nerf shaco is reduce ward price to 120 and oracle to 380 or 350
what "counterpicks" heimer? please enlighten me. seriously, my team basically auto-loses against heimer . yet we're pretty decent against tank teams (poppy imba) and always shit on shaco (if you know how to play shaco then you know how to beat him).

we should do the shit they do in the SC2 forums.
makes you sound so much nerdier haha:
"oh 1600 solo Elo btw"


Does Heimer have an answer for Olaf's ult? The flat damage reduction means lots of small chunks of damage (like turrets) do nothing, and he can't be blinded, stunned, or slowed by Rylai's. I guess Heimer can flash/ghost out, but if Olaf is running ghost and lands an axe that leaves flash.

That'd be my first try, anyway.
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
August 19 2010 03:52 GMT
#13117
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 03:53:34
August 19 2010 03:53 GMT
#13118
Nunu and Sivir, among others, IMO.
(countering Heimer I mean)
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 19 2010 03:53 GMT
#13119
good shaco is more game changing than good amumu. but they're both frequent bans at top level play.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 19 2010 03:55 GMT
#13120
AP Yi can go toe to toe against Heimer, easy
it's my first day
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