On July 14 2010 10:29 Ruken wrote:
How does it pick who's captain? Because I've been captain almost every single game.
How does it pick who's captain? Because I've been captain almost every single game.
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
July 14 2010 01:31 GMT
#5781
On July 14 2010 10:29 Ruken wrote: How does it pick who's captain? Because I've been captain almost every single game. Highest ELO | ||
oberon
United States1320 Posts
July 14 2010 01:35 GMT
#5782
On July 14 2010 10:31 Chairman Ray wrote: Okay, after reading about a zillion guides, I'm gonna give Kat a shot. How's this item build for AP kat? Doran's shield + pot at start Soulstealer Sorc Shoes Rylai's After that I'm either going void staff or zhonya, I'm not sure yet. Any suggestions? I think the standard is still shield -> sorc shoes -> guise -> Rylai's -> Zhonya's (6th item + shield replacement usually GA or more AP), but I could be wrong. I usually see some variant on this, however. | ||
Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
July 14 2010 01:36 GMT
#5783
On July 14 2010 09:55 APurpleCow wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2010 09:21 travis wrote: On July 14 2010 08:24 RoieTRS wrote: On July 14 2010 08:22 gtrsrs wrote: On July 14 2010 07:53 travis wrote: so the uh lantern... is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD it's a god item for WW i agree 100%, it feels like it was custom made for the new champ too. attack speed = more procs with the creepslay passive = more procs on his auto-lifesteal = lower cooldowns on his abilities. beast. i've been running it on shen to great success as well. also this is going to sound weird but i can see it being a staple on kat -_-. gives her a little survivability and damage and lifesteal, but most importantly, she doesn't need to carry a ward to shunpo to in trouble... she's got a slot with a perma-escape technique It isn't insanely good at all. Buidling madred's into bloodrazors is still a lot more effective. Your team can kill baron immediately after building bloodrazors. 1.) bloodrazors is way more expensive than lantern, and when u get it u lose the 500 proc, meaning u kill all other creeps a little slower. also, against good teams, it's not that easy to "just go kill nashor" early on. and if ur whole team isn't there and you've rushed bloodrazor nashor is just going to kill you. 2.) it is insanely good. a ward costs 90. this gives u like 10+ wards throughout the game, and the item would still be good without the ward ability. the lantern is ridiculously cheap it's funny you can actually get the lantern and another madred's for a bit cheaper than bloodrazors, which is pretty heavy damage. combine that with something like guardian angel, taking both buffs, and you're on your way to SOLOING nashor with WW but beyond that.. for WW at least, bloodrazor's never even seemed that good against non-heavy-armored champions. lantern is good against everything. Does WW's ult proc Bloodrazor's 5 times? yeah but that's still only 20%, and u can only use ur ult once. i mean in team games by the time i have bloodrazors im not really relying on my ult for kills anymore, it def helps and that proc isn't bad but imo it's not really a gamechanger(though it's massive against heavily armored tanks). if I have my ult up I don't need bloodrazor's to smash a squishy | ||
Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
July 14 2010 01:41 GMT
#5784
On July 14 2010 10:35 oberon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2010 10:31 Chairman Ray wrote: Okay, after reading about a zillion guides, I'm gonna give Kat a shot. How's this item build for AP kat? Doran's shield + pot at start Soulstealer Sorc Shoes Rylai's After that I'm either going void staff or zhonya, I'm not sure yet. Any suggestions? I think the standard is still shield -> sorc shoes -> guise -> Rylai's -> Zhonya's (6th item + shield replacement usually GA or more AP), but I could be wrong. I usually see some variant on this, however. K ty. I've decided not to get soulstealer. The price is break even if I get 6 charges on it. If everybody is my skill level, then 6 charges is the most I can get on it. I think I'll stick to that build, maybe go banshee's as a 6th because I <3 it so much. Are there any other items that are good on kat? | ||
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
July 14 2010 01:55 GMT
#5785
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
July 14 2010 02:05 GMT
#5786
On July 14 2010 10:55 gtrsrs wrote: 3 BF swords is good on kat I'm building AP kat | ||
ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
July 14 2010 02:24 GMT
#5787
On July 14 2010 10:36 travis wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2010 09:55 APurpleCow wrote: On July 14 2010 09:21 travis wrote: On July 14 2010 08:24 RoieTRS wrote: On July 14 2010 08:22 gtrsrs wrote: On July 14 2010 07:53 travis wrote: so the uh lantern... is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD it's a god item for WW i agree 100%, it feels like it was custom made for the new champ too. attack speed = more procs with the creepslay passive = more procs on his auto-lifesteal = lower cooldowns on his abilities. beast. i've been running it on shen to great success as well. also this is going to sound weird but i can see it being a staple on kat -_-. gives her a little survivability and damage and lifesteal, but most importantly, she doesn't need to carry a ward to shunpo to in trouble... she's got a slot with a perma-escape technique It isn't insanely good at all. Buidling madred's into bloodrazors is still a lot more effective. Your team can kill baron immediately after building bloodrazors. 1.) bloodrazors is way more expensive than lantern, and when u get it u lose the 500 proc, meaning u kill all other creeps a little slower. also, against good teams, it's not that easy to "just go kill nashor" early on. and if ur whole team isn't there and you've rushed bloodrazor nashor is just going to kill you. 2.) it is insanely good. a ward costs 90. this gives u like 10+ wards throughout the game, and the item would still be good without the ward ability. the lantern is ridiculously cheap it's funny you can actually get the lantern and another madred's for a bit cheaper than bloodrazors, which is pretty heavy damage. combine that with something like guardian angel, taking both buffs, and you're on your way to SOLOING nashor with WW but beyond that.. for WW at least, bloodrazor's never even seemed that good against non-heavy-armored champions. lantern is good against everything. Does WW's ult proc Bloodrazor's 5 times? yeah but that's still only 20%, and u can only use ur ult once. i mean in team games by the time i have bloodrazors im not really relying on my ult for kills anymore, it def helps and that proc isn't bad but imo it's not really a gamechanger(though it's massive against heavily armored tanks). if I have my ult up I don't need bloodrazor's to smash a squishy I think if you get the Lantern first, you probably still need to invest in another damage item (most likely with some AS included as well cuz you'll be attacking dirt slow with only your W). That *might* effect survivability since you have to invest in 2 items for damage (unless lantern is considerably cheaper than bloodrazor) instead of just getting bloodrazor -> GA/Sunfire/Banshee. The lifesteal from lantern is pretty useless for WW also =/. I think I might try to get the lantern with Shaco instead of bloodrazor. I've been trying to get away from the bloodrazor/starks build with Shaco and this item is perfect since you need the vamp scepter to jungle anyways. | ||
nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
July 14 2010 02:25 GMT
#5788
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
July 14 2010 02:32 GMT
#5789
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
July 14 2010 02:55 GMT
#5790
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
July 14 2010 03:09 GMT
#5791
On July 14 2010 09:21 travis wrote: 1.) bloodrazors is way more expensive than lantern, and when u get it u lose the 500 proc, meaning u kill all other creeps a little slower. also, against good teams, it's not that easy to "just go kill nashor" early on. and if ur whole team isn't there and you've rushed bloodrazor nashor is just going to kill you. 2.) it is insanely good. a ward costs 90. this gives u like 10+ wards throughout the game, and the item would still be good without the ward ability. the lantern is ridiculously cheap it's funny you can actually get the lantern and another madred's for a bit cheaper than bloodrazors, which is pretty heavy damage. combine that with something like guardian angel, taking both buffs, and you're on your way to SOLOING nashor with WW but beyond that.. for WW at least, bloodrazor's never even seemed that good against non-heavy-armored champions. lantern is good against everything. Thats what i like to hear! Bloodrazor is soo exp to rush early game. I been going for AS item after madreds first lately. Lantern makes more sense. I just hope the servers are more stable when i get on tonight. | ||
rredtooth
5459 Posts
July 14 2010 03:12 GMT
#5792
On July 14 2010 12:09 Khul Sadukar wrote: lantern is a joke item i hope you know. it's not good at all but it's hilarious when your team puts down 5 lanterns in the middle of a teamfight.Show nested quote + On July 14 2010 09:21 travis wrote: 1.) bloodrazors is way more expensive than lantern, and when u get it u lose the 500 proc, meaning u kill all other creeps a little slower. also, against good teams, it's not that easy to "just go kill nashor" early on. and if ur whole team isn't there and you've rushed bloodrazor nashor is just going to kill you. 2.) it is insanely good. a ward costs 90. this gives u like 10+ wards throughout the game, and the item would still be good without the ward ability. the lantern is ridiculously cheap it's funny you can actually get the lantern and another madred's for a bit cheaper than bloodrazors, which is pretty heavy damage. combine that with something like guardian angel, taking both buffs, and you're on your way to SOLOING nashor with WW but beyond that.. for WW at least, bloodrazor's never even seemed that good against non-heavy-armored champions. lantern is good against everything. Thats what i like to hear! Bloodrazor is soo exp to rush early game. I been going for AS item after madreds first lately. Lantern makes more sense. I just hope the servers are more stable when i get on tonight. edit: 2-0 vs diva's premade muhaha | ||
Eben
United States769 Posts
July 14 2010 03:22 GMT
#5793
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[Agony]x90
United States853 Posts
July 14 2010 03:23 GMT
#5794
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
July 14 2010 03:26 GMT
#5795
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
July 14 2010 03:27 GMT
#5796
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Eben
United States769 Posts
July 14 2010 03:32 GMT
#5797
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
July 14 2010 03:34 GMT
#5798
What am I going to do nxt 4hrs.. (stuck at work zzz) | ||
Southlight
United States11767 Posts
July 14 2010 03:35 GMT
#5799
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
July 14 2010 03:40 GMT
#5800
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