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EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
July 14 2010 00:14 GMT
#5761
hopefully the client won't feel so sluggish when they get everything under control.It almost makes me miss the old one. :/
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 00:18:07
July 14 2010 00:15 GMT
#5762
Client seems fine to me, it's the in-game server lag that's a bit annoying at the moment

Edit:
By the way, in tune with their bizarre (but I guess effective?) publicity scheme:

Now, to help solidify this milestone for all of you, we've decided to commemorate the release of Season One with an epic new trailer. And if you haven't watched it yet, you should, because if we reach 1,000,000 views by 10 AM on July 21st we're going to give all of you a double-IP weekend.
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The-Dom
Profile Joined February 2010
United States165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 00:22:55
July 14 2010 00:18 GMT
#5763
ok WHO is hotter in the new trailer, Kayle or Morgana, or Ashe



Poll: Who's hotter in the trailer

Morgana (14)
 
48%

Kayle (12)
 
41%

Ashe (3)
 
10%

29 total votes

Your vote: Who's hotter in the trailer

(Vote): Kayle
(Vote): Morgana
(Vote): Ashe



edit: sorry kat fans, forgot kat was in it too. She was pretty sexy but she's going to have to sit this one out.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
July 14 2010 00:19 GMT
#5764
If we could see Kayle in Morg's outfit, it'd be Kayle
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 00:30:28
July 14 2010 00:21 GMT
#5765
On July 14 2010 08:24 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 08:22 gtrsrs wrote:
On July 14 2010 07:53 travis wrote:
so the uh lantern... is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD
it's a god item for WW


i agree 100%, it feels like it was custom made for the new champ too. attack speed = more procs with the creepslay passive = more procs on his auto-lifesteal = lower cooldowns on his abilities. beast. i've been running it on shen to great success as well.

also this is going to sound weird but i can see it being a staple on kat -_-. gives her a little survivability and damage and lifesteal, but most importantly, she doesn't need to carry a ward to shunpo to in trouble... she's got a slot with a perma-escape technique


It isn't insanely good at all. Buidling madred's into bloodrazors is still a lot more effective. Your team can kill baron immediately after building bloodrazors.



1.) bloodrazors is way more expensive than lantern, and when u get it u lose the 500 proc, meaning u kill all other creeps a little slower. also, against good teams, it's not that easy to "just go kill nashor" early on. and if ur whole team isn't there and you've rushed bloodrazor nashor is just going to kill you.

2.) it is insanely good. a ward costs 90. this gives u like 10+ wards throughout the game, and the item would still be good without the ward ability. the lantern is ridiculously cheap


it's funny you can actually get the lantern and another madred's for a bit cheaper than bloodrazors, which is pretty heavy damage. combine that with something like guardian angel, taking both buffs, and you're on your way to SOLOING nashor with WW


but beyond that.. for WW at least, bloodrazor's never even seemed that good against non-heavy-armored champions. lantern is good against everything.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 14 2010 00:29 GMT
#5766
Okay, for Season one, I'm gonna get a new character. I think I might try out Annie because she's the highest tier mage. I've been using Ryze all this time but various tier lists say he's one of the worst in the game. What makes Annie so strong that Ryze doesn't have, and also, is it possible to use Ryze in very high level play or is it just a dead end for me?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 14 2010 00:32 GMT
#5767
Dude ray did you not see ryze in the trailer? Annie ain't got nothin on that.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
July 14 2010 00:32 GMT
#5768
On July 14 2010 09:19 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
If we could see Kayle in Morg's outfit, it'd be Kayle


LOL man Morgana's hot what are you guys talking about.
Retvrn to Forvms
Vincit
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada13 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 00:43:59
July 14 2010 00:35 GMT
#5769
Hey guys, it's Vincit here from LS Gamers!

We're hosting an open League of Legends night where you can join up and potentially play in some live streamed competitions! The format is pretty open right now but its been a blast before. There will be full commentary on the games as they happen on our lead live stream www.livestream.com/nostalgiatag (featured as LS Gamers on the Team Liquid user streams)

Come join the in game chat channel: LS Gamers if you wanna join up and check out the stream to watch! Its open to anyone so feel free to show up and see what happens!

Tournament starts in 15 mins so 6 Pacific and 9 Eastern

-Vincit
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
July 14 2010 00:40 GMT
#5770
On July 14 2010 09:29 Chairman Ray wrote:
Okay, for Season one, I'm gonna get a new character. I think I might try out Annie because she's the highest tier mage. I've been using Ryze all this time but various tier lists say he's one of the worst in the game. What makes Annie so strong that Ryze doesn't have, and also, is it possible to use Ryze in very high level play or is it just a dead end for me?


mostly because annie can disable more than ryze, come into a team fight with tibbers stun, then QEWQ(Q/W) for a second stun, with proper ap items she can achieve equivalent damage to ryze, but can disable most of opponen'ts team. Plus tibber's passive actually does quite a bit of damage, and E makes her not so fragile. meanwhile, ryze's snare isnt as impressive as a full on stun, despite what the trailer would have you believe.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 14 2010 00:40 GMT
#5771
On July 14 2010 09:19 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
If we could see Kayle in Morg's outfit, it'd be Kayle


Winner
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 14 2010 00:44 GMT
#5772
On July 14 2010 09:40 kdgns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 09:29 Chairman Ray wrote:
Okay, for Season one, I'm gonna get a new character. I think I might try out Annie because she's the highest tier mage. I've been using Ryze all this time but various tier lists say he's one of the worst in the game. What makes Annie so strong that Ryze doesn't have, and also, is it possible to use Ryze in very high level play or is it just a dead end for me?


mostly because annie can disable more than ryze, come into a team fight with tibbers stun, then QEWQ(Q/W) for a second stun, with proper ap items she can achieve equivalent damage to ryze, but can disable most of opponen'ts team. Plus tibber's passive actually does quite a bit of damage, and E makes her not so fragile. meanwhile, ryze's snare isnt as impressive as a full on stun, despite what the trailer would have you believe.


Well, let me expound on this.

The majority of Ryze's damage comes from Spell Flux, which is a bouncing spell. Unfortunately this means that if bounces don't go your way (and many times they won't) you won't actually do much damage. Part of this is rectified by his ult turning Flux into a big ball of bouncing AoE, but aside from punishing positioning errors you'll find you still struggle to land a good Flux against an aware team.

But more than that, when you're ganking, you have the problem where you simply can't bounce the Flux. A lot of times this means you have to run up to them to bounce the Flux off of yourself, but he doesn't have the movement speed nor disable to do this - his disable takes a long time to get good enough to pull this off. And of course, leveling the disable means you're even more reliant on the Flux to do damage because your one-shot nuke will be that much weaker. He's got essentially the same problem as Veigar and a host of other nukers, in that it's tough getting the 3rd skill over the two nukes, but in Ryze's case that prison is pretty critical, both for killing and surviving.

He's also extremely fragile - it's hard killing Annie especially because of Shield, but Ryze has nothing. Also, Annie is a better farmer (Q + auto-attack), doesn't push creep as much (lol Flux), and has stronger lane control (at level 6 she gains an upperhand in almost every matchup).

The last thing is something I mentioned in my big mountain post last night, in that Annie basically has an AoE stun every 10 seconds, assuming she stays alive. That's crazy.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 14 2010 00:47 GMT
#5773
thanks a lot guys, I think I will give Annie a shot. On the LoL site, Ryze was listed as the easiest character to play, I think that's where all my success has come from, but it's gonna bite me in the ass in the long run. I'll try to get good at Annie.
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
July 14 2010 00:53 GMT
#5774
South, a question about Taric. If you find yourself pushing the other team back in the lane (which is quite common with Taric I find), and they are forced to towerhug, is Dazzle > Shatter at that point to help with harass. Obviously the armor bonus is very nice, but sometimes I feel like Upping Shatter won't do anything for me if they are exculsively towerhugging.
Derp
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 14 2010 00:55 GMT
#5775
On July 14 2010 09:21 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 08:24 RoieTRS wrote:
On July 14 2010 08:22 gtrsrs wrote:
On July 14 2010 07:53 travis wrote:
so the uh lantern... is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD
it's a god item for WW


i agree 100%, it feels like it was custom made for the new champ too. attack speed = more procs with the creepslay passive = more procs on his auto-lifesteal = lower cooldowns on his abilities. beast. i've been running it on shen to great success as well.

also this is going to sound weird but i can see it being a staple on kat -_-. gives her a little survivability and damage and lifesteal, but most importantly, she doesn't need to carry a ward to shunpo to in trouble... she's got a slot with a perma-escape technique


It isn't insanely good at all. Buidling madred's into bloodrazors is still a lot more effective. Your team can kill baron immediately after building bloodrazors.



1.) bloodrazors is way more expensive than lantern, and when u get it u lose the 500 proc, meaning u kill all other creeps a little slower. also, against good teams, it's not that easy to "just go kill nashor" early on. and if ur whole team isn't there and you've rushed bloodrazor nashor is just going to kill you.

2.) it is insanely good. a ward costs 90. this gives u like 10+ wards throughout the game, and the item would still be good without the ward ability. the lantern is ridiculously cheap


it's funny you can actually get the lantern and another madred's for a bit cheaper than bloodrazors, which is pretty heavy damage. combine that with something like guardian angel, taking both buffs, and you're on your way to SOLOING nashor with WW


but beyond that.. for WW at least, bloodrazor's never even seemed that good against non-heavy-armored champions. lantern is good against everything.


Does WW's ult proc Bloodrazor's 5 times?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 14 2010 00:55 GMT
#5776
On July 14 2010 09:53 ShoreT wrote:
South, a question about Taric. If you find yourself pushing the other team back in the lane (which is quite common with Taric I find), and they are forced to towerhug, is Dazzle > Shatter at that point to help with harass. Obviously the armor bonus is very nice, but sometimes I feel like Upping Shatter won't do anything for me if they are exculsively towerhugging.


Or you could coordinate a tower dive, cause Shatter is a pretty good nuke *shrugs* Pushing into a tower is usually not really good anyways, if you're ahead enough to keep pushing them you can push, then let the creep push back to your tower, and just deny them exp. Alternatively when the creep is pushing into them you can just abuse heal to bash the tower as much as possible.

I remember they buffed Dazzle's damage a bit, but, ehhh, I'm not sold on ever taking it over Shatter/Heal personally.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 00:57:51
July 14 2010 00:57 GMT
#5777
you obviously still want shatter it maxed for any early team fights that break out in that stage of the game.. also try to let the creeps push, taric is great for keeping the exp away from your opposing mates.., you probably are auto attacking too much, make sure to use clarity so you don't need to do it that much. I hate being pushed to opposing teams tower unless I know where everyone on map is or I just killed someone

edit: southlight beat me to it, meh
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 14 2010 01:20 GMT
#5778
On July 14 2010 09:55 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 09:21 travis wrote:
On July 14 2010 08:24 RoieTRS wrote:
On July 14 2010 08:22 gtrsrs wrote:
On July 14 2010 07:53 travis wrote:
so the uh lantern... is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD
it's a god item for WW


i agree 100%, it feels like it was custom made for the new champ too. attack speed = more procs with the creepslay passive = more procs on his auto-lifesteal = lower cooldowns on his abilities. beast. i've been running it on shen to great success as well.

also this is going to sound weird but i can see it being a staple on kat -_-. gives her a little survivability and damage and lifesteal, but most importantly, she doesn't need to carry a ward to shunpo to in trouble... she's got a slot with a perma-escape technique


It isn't insanely good at all. Buidling madred's into bloodrazors is still a lot more effective. Your team can kill baron immediately after building bloodrazors.



1.) bloodrazors is way more expensive than lantern, and when u get it u lose the 500 proc, meaning u kill all other creeps a little slower. also, against good teams, it's not that easy to "just go kill nashor" early on. and if ur whole team isn't there and you've rushed bloodrazor nashor is just going to kill you.

2.) it is insanely good. a ward costs 90. this gives u like 10+ wards throughout the game, and the item would still be good without the ward ability. the lantern is ridiculously cheap


it's funny you can actually get the lantern and another madred's for a bit cheaper than bloodrazors, which is pretty heavy damage. combine that with something like guardian angel, taking both buffs, and you're on your way to SOLOING nashor with WW


but beyond that.. for WW at least, bloodrazor's never even seemed that good against non-heavy-armored champions. lantern is good against everything.


Does WW's ult proc Bloodrazor's 5 times?
yep, my standard ww build is bloodrazor, wits end, and that enables your ulti to nearly one-hit squishies.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
July 14 2010 01:29 GMT
#5779
How does it pick who's captain? Because I've been captain almost every single game.
MIK Terran
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 14 2010 01:31 GMT
#5780
Okay, after reading about a zillion guides, I'm gonna give Kat a shot.

How's this item build for AP kat?

Doran's shield + pot at start
Soulstealer
Sorc Shoes
Rylai's

After that I'm either going void staff or zhonya, I'm not sure yet. Any suggestions?
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