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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 13 2010 22:53 GMT
#5741
so the uh lantern... is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD
it's a god item for WW
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 13 2010 23:05 GMT
#5742
i can see it being good to discipline yourself to use wards and value them more.

on another note, just played ez and he is fun as hell. zomfg. too bad hes overplayed.... if i were to play him it wouldnt even be for tryhard its just that his skills are fun to play with. o wells. off to try other champs
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 13 2010 23:14 GMT
#5743
On July 14 2010 07:51 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 07:40 Pakje wrote:
On July 14 2010 05:26 Mogwai wrote:
On July 14 2010 05:22 Slaughter wrote:
Ok im just about to hit lvl 20. Since panth got slapped around like a school boy I figure to be playing Annie/Karthus mostly. What runes would work for these two and would most of the same runes work for both?

flat hp quints
magic pen marks
mp5pl seals
mp5pl glyphs

would be the super generic and generally super powerful default caster rune set.


is it really worth to get 18 flat mp5pl (i havent played a caster yet) runes? It looks you'll easily add some dodge seals

On casters? Yes, mp5/lv every time. Hell, I take them on Singed and Cho. Try it before you talk about dodge, you'll never even consider dodge on casters after trying it.

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On July 14 2010 06:35 Shikyo wrote:
On July 14 2010 06:31 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On July 14 2010 06:00 Athos wrote:
On July 14 2010 04:01 floor exercise wrote:
So I've lost 3 ranked games in a row now thanks to Xin's who have never used the hero before but seem to think it's a good idea to jump right into a ranked game.

They aren't even good in general, I had a guy who declared he was going to jungle and was still level 5 15 minutes into the game. Think I'm barely hanging onto 1100 rating now



When I got to ban characters I banned XinZhao. Best way in the world to enable a queue-dodge right now ;D

If you can ban then you are playing ranked. If someone leaves during champion selection in a ranked match they get a loss, not a requeue.

that's completely unrelated O_o

Wtf? It's 100% related.

The punishment of the dodging has no relevance to the best method to have someone dodge
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
July 13 2010 23:18 GMT
#5744
Shaco's getting banned every game hahaha.
Retvrn to Forvms
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
July 13 2010 23:22 GMT
#5745
On July 14 2010 08:18 Chrispy wrote:
Shaco's getting banned every game hahaha.

Good means I can play taric and fiddle without fear of banning and just roll kids.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 13 2010 23:22 GMT
#5746
On July 14 2010 07:53 travis wrote:
so the uh lantern... is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD
it's a god item for WW


i agree 100%, it feels like it was custom made for the new champ too. attack speed = more procs with the creepslay passive = more procs on his auto-lifesteal = lower cooldowns on his abilities. beast. i've been running it on shen to great success as well.

also this is going to sound weird but i can see it being a staple on kat -_-. gives her a little survivability and damage and lifesteal, but most importantly, she doesn't need to carry a ward to shunpo to in trouble... she's got a slot with a perma-escape technique
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 13 2010 23:22 GMT
#5747
Haven't seen a Shaco banned yet, actually.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
July 13 2010 23:24 GMT
#5748
On July 14 2010 08:22 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 07:53 travis wrote:
so the uh lantern... is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD
it's a god item for WW


i agree 100%, it feels like it was custom made for the new champ too. attack speed = more procs with the creepslay passive = more procs on his auto-lifesteal = lower cooldowns on his abilities. beast. i've been running it on shen to great success as well.

also this is going to sound weird but i can see it being a staple on kat -_-. gives her a little survivability and damage and lifesteal, but most importantly, she doesn't need to carry a ward to shunpo to in trouble... she's got a slot with a perma-escape technique


It isn't insanely good at all. Buidling madred's into bloodrazors is still a lot more effective. Your team can kill baron immediately after building bloodrazors.

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Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
July 13 2010 23:32 GMT
#5749
Tips, hints, items for Taric?
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-13 23:33:32
July 13 2010 23:32 GMT
#5750
GA -> Aegis with Clarity/Ghost is the FotM for high-level play.
He's got some other options, but yeah.

Skills
Ult > Shatter > Heal > Dazzle, Dazzle you can leave at level 1 until the end of the game, to be honest.
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FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
July 13 2010 23:36 GMT
#5751
Shaco got nerfed, even tho it doesnt even show it on the release note.

I can't control my clone after i use hallucination anymore lol
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 13 2010 23:36 GMT
#5752
On July 14 2010 08:24 RoieTRS wrote:
It isn't insanely good at all. Buidling madred's into bloodrazors is still a lot more effective. Your team can kill baron immediately after building bloodrazors.


okay so bloodrazors is a great item on some champs but on those that don't need it (xinzhao, olaf, shen, etc) wiggle's latern is a much better choice, and cheaper too. great support item.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 13 2010 23:39 GMT
#5753
lol super heal team, and everyone gets a catalyst and push ~ ! sounds broken
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 13 2010 23:47 GMT
#5754
so after playing a few games as xin zhao i've come to the following conclusions:

a) jungle zhao sucks ass. Unlike Warwick, who has so many ways to kill people (thanks to his speed + ult) zhao has two choices: either go hardcore jungle (and not come out until like 11 or so) or do a temporary jungle into waiting for your teammates to die to take their lane. He's just very hard to jungle and at the same time do any ganking, because his lifesteal is worse than WW's and thus you need to put lots of points into your 2nd ability in order to farm decently, which means you basically have a very hard time trying to kill people.

b) straight dps zhao's are hella easy to kill. They have no escape mechanism, are slow as crap, and the only way to slow you guys down is to charge into them. Thus anybody going pure dps zhao is going to have the same problems that pantheon has, except that the stun requires you to actually attack the enemy, and you don't have your temporary shield. And if you're being chased, your regen isn't going to do very much.

c) straight tank zhao's can tank a lot of hits but has virtually no way of killing people and no way to force aggro, unlike say singed or rammus or like any other tank in the game.

d) the build i've had most success with so far is a trinity force-first build.

Mana Thingy + potions
Sheen
Boots
Tabi
Phage
Zeal/Trinity
Another Phage
Frozen Mallet
tank/damage item (NOT CRITS)

Skill build for this
: 3/1/3/2/3/4/3/2/3/2/4/2/2/1/1/4/1/1

Tricks to keep in mind in laning-
Dragon Fang or Tiger or whatever the hell its called does not need to be on the same target. So something funzies to do is to activate it, hit a creep 2 times, and then charge at a target and knock him into the air. It's a pretty effective way to deal damage, just make sure that they don't have any disable or you're boned.

You are the one hero that can autoattack for a reason. But make sure to still get last hits. The reason I get Sheen as opposed to a straight up damage item is because I want to keep my damage low so I can hit the cannon creep for a while and gain back hp. If I kill it too fast I just push the wave.


What to do in Team Fights:

Xin Zhao is not a very good initiator until he gets a tanking item or anything that gives him HP. Without a tanking item, at low levels his ult gives him a pitiful amount of resistance, thus getting you focused down stupid fast. Thus at low levels I would wait for the actual tank to come bait them before u charge in. As soon as you charge in use your ult, then press 1 and 2, in that order, and go after their casters first. A notable exception is Ashe/Twitch because those buggers will slow you down.
Once you get your first tank item/hit level 16 you can initiate the fight.

overall i would rate him as being a slightly weaker but more team friendly version of pantheon.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
July 13 2010 23:53 GMT
#5755
I don't find him to be anything close to pantheon...

I like the tank version of him just cause you dont need more damage when you can use your ult, and the fact is the longer you live the more you get to flip people in the air and use your slow to chase after team fights.... if your dead you can't really use those abilities...

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Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
July 13 2010 23:55 GMT
#5756
On July 14 2010 08:32 Southlight wrote:
GA -> Aegis with Clarity/Ghost is the FotM for high-level play.
He's got some other options, but yeah.

Skills
Ult > Shatter > Heal > Dazzle, Dazzle you can leave at level 1 until the end of the game, to be honest.


Anything else besides Angel and Aegis? I'm new to LoL in general so I'm learning, but doing well. But I'm pumped as Taric totally fits my playstyle as a more survivable tank. (assuming he actually is)

What does he use besides those two items, the guides on leaguecraft don't seem updated. Stack mana, armour, items that buff your team/debuff theirs?

Thanks in advance
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 13 2010 23:59 GMT
#5757
He's basically a tank that does his job by just crashing into a whole team and hoping they attack him, so you can vary your stuff up based on what items you start off with (laning) and the likes. For instance I poked EzPz to get MM so I could own the lane, so he just turned it into Soul Shroud by the end of the game. He's relatively flexible, and you can probably ignore "higher level play" advice because it's not gonna be as relevant to you for a while.

From that light, just remember that he's a tank (needs HP/armor/magic resist) as well as a support (can work with auras, stronger heals via ability power, cooldown reduc, etc.)
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 14 2010 00:09 GMT
#5758
Do ranked games give the same XP/IP as normal games?
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 00:15:01
July 14 2010 00:10 GMT
#5759
On July 14 2010 09:09 myopia wrote:
Do ranked games give the same XP/IP as normal games?


As far as I could tell, same IP. Can't tell you about XP, but I'd imagine it's the same.

Edit:
Re: Xin Zhao
I only saw him in 3 games, and these are generally pretty newbie games cuz ranked elos are all squished, but he seemed (as a Kass player) like GarenB. Another white-armored really annoying thing chasing after you and disabling you. And, another white-amored really annoying thing that's pretty tough to take down. I think he ends up needing to be built a bit like Garen (Sunfire stack) and all, but it's pretty early to say, just throwing in my 2 cents :D

He didn't seem very much like a carry, though. There was like a 7-2-X Xin that owned my top lane and I still kited him and his team down with Kassadin, despite the presence of Morgana and Zilean.
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
July 14 2010 00:12 GMT
#5760
thanks Caller for the xin zhao guilde, cant wait to try him tomorrow
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