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Daxunyrr
United States190 Posts
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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Daxunyrr
United States190 Posts
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On October 18 2010 08:01 SCC-Faust wrote: Poppy, best way to build her? APen or MPen? Seen a lot of controversy over Triforce(APen) vs Lich Bane(MPen) builds. Is one better than the other? What are their strengths and weaknesses? From my personal experience an AD Poppy can (sort of) carry. DFG/Lichbane poppy is the ultimate oneshot, triforce has a built-in slow which implies that what you slow won't be already dead. Basically lichbane is the most anti-carry way of building her, while triforce wants to last more than 2 seconds in teamfights. Go mpen if they have kog/mf+janna/nunu and you need the instagib, go triforce if your team has alistar/janna and no long stuns/strong cc. Full AD poppy sucks, don't even bother. | ||
red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 18 2010 07:50 Jazriel wrote: Lol. Maybe you should look into getting a pair of glasses. Besides, since I've learned that this thread contains mostly baddies/egotrippers my sarcastic and trolling nature are brought out more in my posts. At least the other guy has decent posts. Though due to the way he writes his posts I'm slightly convinced he's just trolling me. You wouldn't happen to be best friends with Cefx would you? | ||
arb
Noobville17920 Posts
ghostblade zeal berseker boots phantom dancer inf edge avarice blade double elixir 100% chance to crit for 800 with 1.7 attack speed sup? | ||
Phrost
United States4008 Posts
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NonY
8748 Posts
On October 18 2010 08:12 r33k wrote: DFG/Lichbane poppy is the ultimate oneshot, triforce has a built-in slow which implies that what you slow won't be already dead. Basically lichbane is the most anti-carry way of building her, while triforce wants to last more than 2 seconds in teamfights. Go mpen if they have kog/mf+janna/nunu and you need the instagib, go triforce if your team has alistar/janna and no long stuns/strong cc. Full AD poppy sucks, don't even bother. you can go all defensive items after you finish dfg and lichbane and you'll still have enough burst to smack their carry. if move speed is a problem, FoN for a faster poppy (against AP opponents) or randuin's (against AD) for some snare action | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
On October 18 2010 07:44 Pandoma wrote: So I've been trying to jungle lately with Olaf, but being level 23, I don't have any runes yet, and I find myself not jungling very efficiently (with smite). I go golem (bottom ones) -> ghoul things -> wolves, then try to gank top and farm madreds because I find I can never do blue buff without dying. Is this because I don't have dodge or flat health runes yet? Or am I doing something wrong? As for skill sets I try to max lifesteal ASAP with maxing my Q along with it. I've never tried jungling without runes before with olaf, so I don't know if you should be able to do blue or not. But for skill set, its better to go one point in w, then two points in q, then max e first, since e should be your main dmg. Edit: Tyler! Make a guide for Poppy!!! | ||
barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On October 18 2010 08:58 Liquid`Tyler wrote: you can go all defensive items after you finish dfg and lichbane and you'll still have enough burst to smack their carry. if move speed is a problem, FoN for a faster poppy (against AP opponents) or randuin's (against AD) for some snare action usually when i play poppy the game is decided about 20 mins in, so after dfg/lich i go zhonyas for teh lulz. I could easily see just stopping there tho, kus just those two items make ppl explode | ||
barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On October 18 2010 08:42 arb wrote: lol 16-1 tryndamere ghostblade zeal berseker boots phantom dancer inf edge avarice blade double elixir 100% chance to crit for 800 with 1.7 attack speed sup? atmas is really sick on trynd, i recommend you try, esp if they have a decent bit of ad. I like getting atmas on all my ranged carries | ||
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NonY
8748 Posts
On October 18 2010 09:06 barbsq wrote: usually when i play poppy the game is decided about 20 mins in, so after dfg/lich i go zhonyas for teh lulz. I could easily see just stopping there tho, kus just those two items make ppl explode yea i'd say maybe 50% of the time i dont even finish lich bane. her farming is such shit haha | ||
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
but you need to start blue with olaf if you want to have any jungle speed. Q/W is preference for first skill at blue. i prefer W but i've heard people swear by Q. olaf loves cloth + 5 pot + health quints (but he also loves movespeed quints, it's a tricksy business those runes). if you have MS quints you definitely want at least 2 points in vet scars tho. once you've secured blue you want to get a level in Q. you throw Q as short as is possible to throw so that as soon as it hits its target, you pick it back up. with the CDR from blue and the mana regen, you'll be able to throw axes indefinitely at your feet (where the creeps are) with about a ~1sec cooldown between tosses. you'll regen your mana running between camps first four skill levels are W-Q-W-E, then max R>E>Q>W. E is maxed by level 9. this is olaf's "sweet spot" or "red line" during the game. with a 340 true damage nuke on a 3 second cooldown, olaf will destroy anyone level 7-11 in < 10 seconds. don't gank until level 4. red + level 1 axe = perma slow. use ghost from the bush, make sure your first Q hits them, hit with normal attack to slow, THEN E, then repeat until dead. don't be afraid to tower dive, you're resilient. just don't get crazy. fed olaf is best olaf, but late-game he's very item dependent. ps olaf wants boots of swiftness instead of mercs, he's one of the few champs who can get away with it (on account of R being the most | ||
barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On October 18 2010 09:10 Liquid`Tyler wrote: yea i'd say maybe 50% of the time i dont even finish lich bane. her farming is such shit haha gorra farm teh champs for teh golds >.< edit: in all seriousness tho, poppy easily has one of the highest dmg outputs for having no items, its kinda silly | ||
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On October 18 2010 09:06 barbsq wrote: usually when i play poppy the game is decided about 20 mins in, so after dfg/lich i go zhonyas for teh lulz. I could easily see just stopping there tho, kus just those two items make ppl explode i've noticed this a lot with poppy too. either they get completely shut out of farm and are useless all game and it quickly becomes a 5v4 and is over at 25, OR poppy gets a couple kills early and just snowballs into a killing machine that takes 2-3 champs out of every fight and the game ends at 25. rigged champ is rigged | ||
barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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gtrsrs
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 18 2010 08:42 arb wrote: lol 16-1 tryndamere ghostblade zeal berseker boots phantom dancer inf edge avarice blade double elixir 100% chance to crit for 800 with 1.7 attack speed sup? stun LoL dead. | ||
arb
Noobville17920 Posts
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