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Daxunyrr
Profile Joined August 2010
United States190 Posts
October 17 2010 23:05 GMT
#24901
So would anyone be willing to play a few games with a nub so they can attempt to learn under someones tips/advice/suggestions/whatever? Cause I feel like Im getitng no where fast at any rate no matter wtf I try to do =/
Stop bitching bout people who suck and teach em how to play.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
October 17 2010 23:09 GMT
#24902
I'll smurf with you sometime, what's your summoner name?
Daxunyrr
Profile Joined August 2010
United States190 Posts
October 17 2010 23:11 GMT
#24903
Same as my account name here. Daxunyrr.
Stop bitching bout people who suck and teach em how to play.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 23:12:51
October 17 2010 23:12 GMT
#24904
On October 18 2010 08:01 SCC-Faust wrote:
Poppy, best way to build her?

APen or MPen?

Seen a lot of controversy over Triforce(APen) vs Lich Bane(MPen) builds.
Is one better than the other? What are their strengths and weaknesses?

From my personal experience an AD Poppy can (sort of) carry.

DFG/Lichbane poppy is the ultimate oneshot, triforce has a built-in slow which implies that what you slow won't be already dead.

Basically lichbane is the most anti-carry way of building her, while triforce wants to last more than 2 seconds in teamfights. Go mpen if they have kog/mf+janna/nunu and you need the instagib, go triforce if your team has alistar/janna and no long stuns/strong cc.

Full AD poppy sucks, don't even bother.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 17 2010 23:31 GMT
#24905
On October 18 2010 07:50 Jazriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 07:42 Southlight wrote:
On October 18 2010 07:40 Jaksiel wrote:


On October 18 2010 07:41 Jazriel wrote:


You two make me want to jump off a cliff.



Lol. Maybe you should look into getting a pair of glasses.

Besides, since I've learned that this thread contains mostly baddies/egotrippers my sarcastic and trolling nature are brought out more in my posts. At least the other guy has decent posts.

Though due to the way he writes his posts I'm slightly convinced he's just trolling me.


You wouldn't happen to be best friends with Cefx would you?
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 17 2010 23:42 GMT
#24906
lol 16-1 tryndamere
ghostblade
zeal
berseker boots
phantom dancer
inf edge
avarice blade
double elixir

100% chance to crit for 800 with 1.7 attack speed
sup?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 17 2010 23:50 GMT
#24907
ima streamin mah gaemz
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 17 2010 23:58 GMT
#24908
On October 18 2010 08:12 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 08:01 SCC-Faust wrote:
Poppy, best way to build her?

APen or MPen?

Seen a lot of controversy over Triforce(APen) vs Lich Bane(MPen) builds.
Is one better than the other? What are their strengths and weaknesses?

From my personal experience an AD Poppy can (sort of) carry.

DFG/Lichbane poppy is the ultimate oneshot, triforce has a built-in slow which implies that what you slow won't be already dead.

Basically lichbane is the most anti-carry way of building her, while triforce wants to last more than 2 seconds in teamfights. Go mpen if they have kog/mf+janna/nunu and you need the instagib, go triforce if your team has alistar/janna and no long stuns/strong cc.

Full AD poppy sucks, don't even bother.

you can go all defensive items after you finish dfg and lichbane and you'll still have enough burst to smack their carry. if move speed is a problem, FoN for a faster poppy (against AP opponents) or randuin's (against AD) for some snare action
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#24909
Tyler's probably the best Poppy I've seen from LiquidParty, so he knows what he's talking about. Haven't seen him run godlike yet but he has a knack at taking down at least two champs every team fight. Definite anti-carry.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 00:04:50
October 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#24910
On October 18 2010 07:44 Pandoma wrote:
So I've been trying to jungle lately with Olaf, but being level 23, I don't have any runes yet, and I find myself not jungling very efficiently (with smite). I go golem (bottom ones) -> ghoul things -> wolves, then try to gank top and farm madreds because I find I can never do blue buff without dying. Is this because I don't have dodge or flat health runes yet? Or am I doing something wrong? As for skill sets I try to max lifesteal ASAP with maxing my Q along with it.


I've never tried jungling without runes before with olaf, so I don't know if you should be able to do blue or not. But for skill set, its better to go one point in w, then two points in q, then max e first, since e should be your main dmg.


Edit: Tyler! Make a guide for Poppy!!!
Whaaaa?
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 18 2010 00:06 GMT
#24911
On October 18 2010 08:58 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 08:12 r33k wrote:
On October 18 2010 08:01 SCC-Faust wrote:
Poppy, best way to build her?

APen or MPen?

Seen a lot of controversy over Triforce(APen) vs Lich Bane(MPen) builds.
Is one better than the other? What are their strengths and weaknesses?

From my personal experience an AD Poppy can (sort of) carry.

DFG/Lichbane poppy is the ultimate oneshot, triforce has a built-in slow which implies that what you slow won't be already dead.

Basically lichbane is the most anti-carry way of building her, while triforce wants to last more than 2 seconds in teamfights. Go mpen if they have kog/mf+janna/nunu and you need the instagib, go triforce if your team has alistar/janna and no long stuns/strong cc.

Full AD poppy sucks, don't even bother.

you can go all defensive items after you finish dfg and lichbane and you'll still have enough burst to smack their carry. if move speed is a problem, FoN for a faster poppy (against AP opponents) or randuin's (against AD) for some snare action


usually when i play poppy the game is decided about 20 mins in, so after dfg/lich i go zhonyas for teh lulz. I could easily see just stopping there tho, kus just those two items make ppl explode
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 18 2010 00:08 GMT
#24912
On October 18 2010 08:42 arb wrote:
lol 16-1 tryndamere
ghostblade
zeal
berseker boots
phantom dancer
inf edge
avarice blade
double elixir

100% chance to crit for 800 with 1.7 attack speed
sup?


atmas is really sick on trynd, i recommend you try, esp if they have a decent bit of ad. I like getting atmas on all my ranged carries
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 18 2010 00:10 GMT
#24913
On October 18 2010 09:06 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 08:58 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 18 2010 08:12 r33k wrote:
On October 18 2010 08:01 SCC-Faust wrote:
Poppy, best way to build her?

APen or MPen?

Seen a lot of controversy over Triforce(APen) vs Lich Bane(MPen) builds.
Is one better than the other? What are their strengths and weaknesses?

From my personal experience an AD Poppy can (sort of) carry.

DFG/Lichbane poppy is the ultimate oneshot, triforce has a built-in slow which implies that what you slow won't be already dead.

Basically lichbane is the most anti-carry way of building her, while triforce wants to last more than 2 seconds in teamfights. Go mpen if they have kog/mf+janna/nunu and you need the instagib, go triforce if your team has alistar/janna and no long stuns/strong cc.

Full AD poppy sucks, don't even bother.

you can go all defensive items after you finish dfg and lichbane and you'll still have enough burst to smack their carry. if move speed is a problem, FoN for a faster poppy (against AP opponents) or randuin's (against AD) for some snare action


usually when i play poppy the game is decided about 20 mins in, so after dfg/lich i go zhonyas for teh lulz. I could easily see just stopping there tho, kus just those two items make ppl explode

yea i'd say maybe 50% of the time i dont even finish lich bane. her farming is such shit haha
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 18 2010 00:13 GMT
#24914
i'm pretty sure there's jungolaf guides on the wiki

but you need to start blue with olaf if you want to have any jungle speed.

Q/W is preference for first skill at blue. i prefer W but i've heard people swear by Q. olaf loves cloth + 5 pot + health quints (but he also loves movespeed quints, it's a tricksy business those runes). if you have MS quints you definitely want at least 2 points in vet scars tho.

once you've secured blue you want to get a level in Q. you throw Q as short as is possible to throw so that as soon as it hits its target, you pick it back up. with the CDR from blue and the mana regen, you'll be able to throw axes indefinitely at your feet (where the creeps are) with about a ~1sec cooldown between tosses. you'll regen your mana running between camps

first four skill levels are W-Q-W-E, then max R>E>Q>W. E is maxed by level 9. this is olaf's "sweet spot" or "red line" during the game. with a 340 true damage nuke on a 3 second cooldown, olaf will destroy anyone level 7-11 in < 10 seconds.

don't gank until level 4. red + level 1 axe = perma slow. use ghost from the bush, make sure your first Q hits them, hit with normal attack to slow, THEN E, then repeat until dead. don't be afraid to tower dive, you're resilient. just don't get crazy. fed olaf is best olaf, but late-game he's very item dependent.

ps olaf wants boots of swiftness instead of mercs, he's one of the few champs who can get away with it (on account of R being the most brokenly good brave ult in the game)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 00:15:23
October 18 2010 00:14 GMT
#24915
On October 18 2010 09:10 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 09:06 barbsq wrote:
On October 18 2010 08:58 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 18 2010 08:12 r33k wrote:
On October 18 2010 08:01 SCC-Faust wrote:
Poppy, best way to build her?

APen or MPen?

Seen a lot of controversy over Triforce(APen) vs Lich Bane(MPen) builds.
Is one better than the other? What are their strengths and weaknesses?

From my personal experience an AD Poppy can (sort of) carry.

DFG/Lichbane poppy is the ultimate oneshot, triforce has a built-in slow which implies that what you slow won't be already dead.

Basically lichbane is the most anti-carry way of building her, while triforce wants to last more than 2 seconds in teamfights. Go mpen if they have kog/mf+janna/nunu and you need the instagib, go triforce if your team has alistar/janna and no long stuns/strong cc.

Full AD poppy sucks, don't even bother.

you can go all defensive items after you finish dfg and lichbane and you'll still have enough burst to smack their carry. if move speed is a problem, FoN for a faster poppy (against AP opponents) or randuin's (against AD) for some snare action


usually when i play poppy the game is decided about 20 mins in, so after dfg/lich i go zhonyas for teh lulz. I could easily see just stopping there tho, kus just those two items make ppl explode

yea i'd say maybe 50% of the time i dont even finish lich bane. her farming is such shit haha


gorra farm teh champs for teh golds >.<

edit: in all seriousness tho, poppy easily has one of the highest dmg outputs for having no items, its kinda silly
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 18 2010 00:15 GMT
#24916
On October 18 2010 09:06 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 08:58 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 18 2010 08:12 r33k wrote:
On October 18 2010 08:01 SCC-Faust wrote:
Poppy, best way to build her?

APen or MPen?

Seen a lot of controversy over Triforce(APen) vs Lich Bane(MPen) builds.
Is one better than the other? What are their strengths and weaknesses?

From my personal experience an AD Poppy can (sort of) carry.

DFG/Lichbane poppy is the ultimate oneshot, triforce has a built-in slow which implies that what you slow won't be already dead.

Basically lichbane is the most anti-carry way of building her, while triforce wants to last more than 2 seconds in teamfights. Go mpen if they have kog/mf+janna/nunu and you need the instagib, go triforce if your team has alistar/janna and no long stuns/strong cc.

Full AD poppy sucks, don't even bother.

you can go all defensive items after you finish dfg and lichbane and you'll still have enough burst to smack their carry. if move speed is a problem, FoN for a faster poppy (against AP opponents) or randuin's (against AD) for some snare action


usually when i play poppy the game is decided about 20 mins in, so after dfg/lich i go zhonyas for teh lulz. I could easily see just stopping there tho, kus just those two items make ppl explode


i've noticed this a lot with poppy too. either they get completely shut out of farm and are useless all game and it quickly becomes a 5v4 and is over at 25, OR poppy gets a couple kills early and just snowballs into a killing machine that takes 2-3 champs out of every fight and the game ends at 25. rigged champ is rigged
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 18 2010 00:18 GMT
#24917
yo gtr, since you've clearly finished ur hw, seeing as how ur writing miniguides and shit, lets play some ranked, srsly u dodging me or something?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 18 2010 00:20 GMT
#24918
i dodge your akali cause you are too good and make me look bad and nooooo i was just writing mini guide in between writing lines of code. thanks for making me feel guilty again DAD
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 18 2010 00:25 GMT
#24919
On October 18 2010 08:42 arb wrote:
lol 16-1 tryndamere
ghostblade
zeal
berseker boots
phantom dancer
inf edge
avarice blade
double elixir

100% chance to crit for 800 with 1.7 attack speed
sup?


stun LoL dead.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 18 2010 00:28 GMT
#24920
On October 18 2010 09:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 08:42 arb wrote:
lol 16-1 tryndamere
ghostblade
zeal
berseker boots
phantom dancer
inf edge
avarice blade
double elixir

100% chance to crit for 800 with 1.7 attack speed
sup?


stun LoL dead.

cleanse
gg escape rape team
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
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