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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On October 15 2010 13:02 phyvo wrote: You guys make it hard for a low self esteemer like me to enjoy playing when you make fun of my terrible cho gath in a troll game. *sadface* So down that I went right back to my losing streak after that... I can't stand people with low self esteem. I hate them. They suck. Some people have a bad habit of taking troll games seriously. You'll learn from experience who on TL is safe to be nooby with and who is a little bit ragey (5hit, soner, desirous...). Even the really patient/nice people sometimes have off days, too. EDIT: Sorry guitar. I'm recieving your invites but they don't do anything :< | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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I also have this tendency to know exactly when we're losing and I'll say it as soon as it enters my mind whether we're up kills and towers or not. Last night we were up 2 towers and 5 kills and I announced "we can still come back" and my team is like LOL WTF NUB WE WINNING and then we got aced 3 times in a row. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On October 15 2010 13:31 Vei wrote: Is it possible to play Shaco well without runes? I've spent all my IP on my mains (morg/karth) and MPen runes... so I can afford about 1 furor rune (I hear that's the best for him). :Y furors are from an age long ago when the furor's actually worked with his decieve (yes i kno totally imba), but now that they dont, plz dont ever get them on him. Shaco can quite easily be played without runes imo, even jungling isnt too hard since its more dependent on his jitbs tanking dmg and smite than runes. That said, i think he greatly benefits from apen, but since shiv (which is the primary source of dmg early-midgame) is magic, i think mpen wouldnt be the worst thing. Also mp5s (which i assume you have since you main karth/morg) are just fine as well, since he kinda has some mana issues if you dont hog blue. so to make a long story short, runes will most certainly not make/break shaco. edit: and if you want a build, look at gtrsrs's stuff in the post below. the only thing that might not be necessary is the phage, unless he's going for triforce, which is kind of a neat item on him, tho definitely secondary to mbr edit2: and i suppose i should mention that qss is very situational, not a core item | ||
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Eloquent
United States475 Posts
EPIC KAYLE SUPPORT/CARRY. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/FPi8d.png) | ||
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ProdT
United States170 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On October 15 2010 13:55 ProdT wrote: "The CARRY effect is stronger than the FEEDER effect." - Riot Staff its very true especially when compared to DotA/HoN, there is only one snowballing item in DotA/HoN which is expensive and pretty cost ineffective, and the most important fact is that you LOSE GOLD when you die in DotA/HoN whereas in LoL u only lose the time in death respawn. which is why come backs are much harder to achieve in DotA/HoN where feeders are much harder to be compensated. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
FOR THE RECORD even though my stats were bad that game (creeps are misleading i had like 200 jungle kills) i was actually really pivotal that game, had a crucial baron steal and killed like 15 enemy wards and forced them to focus me (cause of coward cho'gath on our team  ) and stuff and such-_-' also the phage was my last item, i was going to turn it into mallet cause i needed HP rather than triforce for procs. and the QSS is because i didn't grab cleanse cause i was jungling, but i was using Q as an initiation rather than an escape so i needed a way to shake stuns | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On October 15 2010 13:34 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Yeah, if you play with me you definitely run the risk of getting passive-aggressive raged at if I'm doing well and we're losing and you also run the risk of having to listen to me talk about how hard I'm sucking if I'm sucking and we're losing. That's what makes it fun, though, occasionally you'll get carried super hard and occasionally you'll get to "u mad?" me. I also have this tendency to know exactly when we're losing and I'll say it as soon as it enters my mind whether we're up kills and towers or not. Last night we were up 2 towers and 5 kills and I announced "we can still come back" and my team is like LOL WTF NUB WE WINNING and then we got aced 3 times in a row. but we won the "we can stil lcome back" The other we just got raped in teamfights lol | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
Go go one hour drive home through a hail storm - get to drive back tomorrow to hand it in too... Looks like no LoL for me tonight... | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On October 15 2010 13:29 Tooplark wrote: I can't stand people with low self esteem. I hate them. They suck. Some people have a bad habit of taking troll games seriously. You'll learn from experience who on TL is safe to be nooby with and who is a little bit ragey (5hit, soner, desirous...). Even the really patient/nice people sometimes have off days, too. EDIT: Sorry guitar. I'm recieving your invites but they don't do anything :< No, my remaining vestiges of self-worth! But yeah, I dunno. I think this is partially why I'm not that great of a player. I'm happy go lucky when I'm winning, but if you've ever watched Gretorp play SC you know exactly what happens when I mess up. Except I'm more nooby and lose to stuff like being baited by a lone HEIMER TURRET when they're all MIA. On October 15 2010 13:34 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote Yeah, if you play with me you definitely run the risk of getting passive-aggressive raged at if I'm doing well and we're losing and you also run the risk of having to listen to me talk about how hard I'm sucking if I'm sucking and we're losing. That's what makes it fun, though, occasionally you'll get carried super hard and occasionally you'll get to "u mad?" me. I also have this tendency to know exactly when we're losing and I'll say it as soon as it enters my mind whether we're up kills and towers or not. Last night we were up 2 towers and 5 kills and I announced "we can still come back" and my team is like LOL WTF NUB WE WINNING and then we got aced 3 times in a row. I'll try not to take it too hard, I guess. We had a pretty good game earlier, jungle rammus is so much easier. Honestly I'm not too surprised about the 2 towers / 5 kills thing. Sometimes I really feel it when the other team is more powerful than mine or when they're exerting more map control. With more experience I think that kind of sense can only get better as you absorb enough of the game for more things to become second nature. | ||
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radmax86
United States437 Posts
On October 15 2010 14:03 Shizuru~ wrote: its very true especially when compared to DotA/HoN, there is only one snowballing item in DotA/HoN which is expensive and pretty cost ineffective, and the most important fact is that you LOSE GOLD when you die in DotA/HoN whereas in LoL u only lose the time in death respawn. which is why come backs are much harder to achieve in DotA/HoN where feeders are much harder to be compensated. Disagreed, I think its a lot easier to carry in dota. Dota has stronger hard carries, more of a solo/farming meta game, and gold loss is essentially another form of snowballing. Comebacks and Carrying are two distinctly different concepts. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On October 15 2010 14:39 radmax86 wrote: Disagreed, I think its a lot easier to carry in dota. Dota has stronger hard carries, more of a solo/farming meta game, and gold loss is essentially another form of snowballing. Comebacks and Carrying are two distinctly different concepts. Well it is easier to carry in dota, but feeders are also much worse off (gold lost on death, less contribution with spells/CC due to BKB), which is the point he was trying to make. | ||
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Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
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Truez
Australia147 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On October 15 2010 15:25 Lucian wrote: Just wanted to make a quick post to say thanks to Mog-wai for all of his jungles guides, and anyone else that helped me out, haven't lost a single game since, jungle pantheon is now my favourite I use mogwai's jungle pantheon too :D... well a variation. It's pretty sick :D | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Yammiez
Canada186 Posts
Anything special about jungling with him other than the youtube video? Btw, you're awesome Mogwai. | ||
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