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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 08 2010 01:05 GMT
#23041
On October 08 2010 10:03 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2010 10:01 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Any opinions on frozen mallet vs sunfire for first item on garen? With his slight movement speed nerf I find it difficult to keep up with enemies to finish them off now (or keep them off a carry).

just hit Q or get boots 3, then hit E and finally R
Its easy

you could just get sunfire and snag red. its cheaper.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 01:39:16
October 08 2010 01:38 GMT
#23042
when you think about kayle from an outside perspective... A slow, a heal/speed boost, and a invulerable shield...

support.

Then you play kayle as a carry, and you play her, the damage is ridiculous

Btw, for the longest time I was going Rageblade - Mejais, + Triple Pot/dps item

Im now doing rageblade / ghostblade... etc.. ghostblade is sooooooooo gooood
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 08 2010 01:46 GMT
#23043
All champions are free to play and you get a free 4 day ip boost this weekend.



Fuuuuuuuuuuu why is comiccon also this weekend!?
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
October 08 2010 01:47 GMT
#23044
On October 08 2010 10:38 BraveGhost wrote:
when you think about kayle from an outside perspective... A slow, a heal/speed boost, and a invulerable shield...

support.

Then you play kayle as a carry, and you play her, the damage is ridiculous

Btw, for the longest time I was going Rageblade - Mejais, + Triple Pot/dps item

Im now doing rageblade / ghostblade... etc.. ghostblade is sooooooooo gooood


Try just rageblade -> triple pot. I found that was the best way to win with Kayle. Farming up a second item (Nashor's, Ghostblade, etc.) takes a while, whereas pretty much no one can stop GRB + 3xElixir Kayle at the point in the game you can get it.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
October 08 2010 01:50 GMT
#23045
On October 08 2010 10:38 BraveGhost wrote:
when you think about kayle from an outside perspective... A slow, a heal/speed boost, and a invulerable shield...

support.

Then you play kayle as a carry, and you play her, the damage is ridiculous

Btw, for the longest time I was going Rageblade - Mejais, + Triple Pot/dps item

Im now doing rageblade / ghostblade... etc.. ghostblade is sooooooooo gooood

Her damage used to be even more rediculous again buildings when it also did the magic damage. A kayle 6 shot our final nexus, it was insane.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 01:54:42
October 08 2010 01:50 GMT
#23046
On October 08 2010 10:47 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2010 10:38 BraveGhost wrote:
when you think about kayle from an outside perspective... A slow, a heal/speed boost, and a invulerable shield...

support.

Then you play kayle as a carry, and you play her, the damage is ridiculous

Btw, for the longest time I was going Rageblade - Mejais, + Triple Pot/dps item

Im now doing rageblade / ghostblade... etc.. ghostblade is sooooooooo gooood


Try just rageblade -> triple pot. I found that was the best way to win with Kayle. Farming up a second item (Nashor's, Ghostblade, etc.) takes a while, whereas pretty much no one can stop GRB + 3xElixir Kayle at the point in the game you can get it.


I usually mix in elixirs but I usually don't just straight up go for 3, I'll try it, I like working for an item , mixing in elixirs(get a green here or there)... just cause my elo, games aren't over at 25, and Im dominating at that sage of the game with boots + rageblade + red anyways, it's usually free kills.

Yes I remember doing that to towers SNK, it was fun

oberon: you might not take towers out in 2 seconds, but your still really really good at pushing down lanes, I love when the teams sit and stare at each other in mid for awhile means I get free towers, i'll go all the way to the inhibitor turret usually.. also I find red to be much more useful than blue especially when solo pushing lanes down, idk
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
October 08 2010 01:51 GMT
#23047
On October 08 2010 10:50 BraveGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2010 10:47 oberon wrote:
On October 08 2010 10:38 BraveGhost wrote:
when you think about kayle from an outside perspective... A slow, a heal/speed boost, and a invulerable shield...

support.

Then you play kayle as a carry, and you play her, the damage is ridiculous

Btw, for the longest time I was going Rageblade - Mejais, + Triple Pot/dps item

Im now doing rageblade / ghostblade... etc.. ghostblade is sooooooooo gooood


Try just rageblade -> triple pot. I found that was the best way to win with Kayle. Farming up a second item (Nashor's, Ghostblade, etc.) takes a while, whereas pretty much no one can stop GRB + 3xElixir Kayle at the point in the game you can get it.


I usually mix in elixirs but I usually don't just straight up go for 3, I'll try it, I like working for an item , mixing in elixirs... just cause my elo, games aren't over at 25, and Im dominating at that sage of the game with boots + rageblade + red anyways, it's usually free kills.



My ELO isn't that great -- games definitely go long. But I find Kayle gets worse as the game goes on, because she has a ton of trouble when opponents start grabbing GAs. Better to end is ASAP with super-hard push (GRB, 3x elixirs, and blue buff; red buff is optional but great).

Of course, I haven't played her since the building damage nerf -- she might not be able to just wreck towers in 10 seconds anymore.
Demarini
Profile Joined May 2010
United States151 Posts
October 08 2010 02:05 GMT
#23048
whats the best way to record your games? fraps takes like, 45 gigs. any other recording devices that are more efficient?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 08 2010 02:07 GMT
#23049
On October 08 2010 10:51 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2010 10:50 BraveGhost wrote:
On October 08 2010 10:47 oberon wrote:
On October 08 2010 10:38 BraveGhost wrote:
when you think about kayle from an outside perspective... A slow, a heal/speed boost, and a invulerable shield...

support.

Then you play kayle as a carry, and you play her, the damage is ridiculous

Btw, for the longest time I was going Rageblade - Mejais, + Triple Pot/dps item

Im now doing rageblade / ghostblade... etc.. ghostblade is sooooooooo gooood


Try just rageblade -> triple pot. I found that was the best way to win with Kayle. Farming up a second item (Nashor's, Ghostblade, etc.) takes a while, whereas pretty much no one can stop GRB + 3xElixir Kayle at the point in the game you can get it.


I usually mix in elixirs but I usually don't just straight up go for 3, I'll try it, I like working for an item , mixing in elixirs... just cause my elo, games aren't over at 25, and Im dominating at that sage of the game with boots + rageblade + red anyways, it's usually free kills.



My ELO isn't that great -- games definitely go long. But I find Kayle gets worse as the game goes on, because she has a ton of trouble when opponents start grabbing GAs. Better to end is ASAP with super-hard push (GRB, 3x elixirs, and blue buff; red buff is optional but great).

Of course, I haven't played her since the building damage nerf -- she might not be able to just wreck towers in 10 seconds anymore.


elixir pump is after you've cemented your final items

if you've got GRB and aren't consistently getting kills or your team isn't winning teamfights, hold off on the elixir pump until you've completed another item (ghostblade, nashors, infinity edge), see if that turns the tide from losing->winning teamfights, THEN pump elixirs to keep the advantage up

kayle definitely doesn't drop off late game imo, she can still solo push a tower and live to talk about it and still wrecks teamfights almost as well as any other good ranged late-game carry (twitch trist come to mind as stronger later but no one else tbh)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 08 2010 02:13 GMT
#23050
yea.....
Oberon, Kayle is stupidly strong late game, not sure where you got that from.

That's all I'm going to say....
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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
October 08 2010 02:29 GMT
#23051
On October 08 2010 09:31 s_side wrote:
Could someone point me in the right direction with Amumu in terms of masteries/item build/runes?

The linked ones are quite a bit outdated.


Here's what I use. It may not be completely optimal, but it works well.

Red: Magic Pen
Yellow: mp5 / lvl
Blue: MR / lvl
Quints: Health

Magic pen speeds up your jungle. Mp5 / lvl is nice, but I think flat armor is probably better, especially at lower levels. By the time you can no longer hog golem, you don't need it that much in general. MR / lvl is just awesome. Health quints are more for safety in the lower level jungling stages.

Masteries are 1/14/15 (Mogwai's jungle spec)

Offense: Smite, obviously
Defense: Strength of Spirit and all -dmg masteries
Utility: 3 points in Quickness, leaving 2 in Meditation (I think)

Items:
HoG
Boots 1 or Merc Treads depending on money/need
HoG
Negatron/Sunfire Cape/Randuin's
Negatron/Sunfire Cape/Randuin's
Build Negatron into something

This is obviously against a "balanced" team. You wanna get a Negatron earlier if there is significant magic damage threat to your health. Otherwise just get Sunfire earlier. Get those HoG as soon as possible, they are a big deal.

This is just a general guideline, tank items are very team-specific. But get those HoG's every game for the most part.
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
October 08 2010 02:30 GMT
#23052
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the category but LoL winning for "best online tech" is humorous to me.
Cheese is good for you!
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 08 2010 02:32 GMT
#23053
On October 08 2010 11:30 Scamp wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the category but LoL winning for "best online tech" is humorous to me.


I think it's humorous to everyone, how the hell did that happen?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 03:01:52
October 08 2010 03:01 GMT
#23054
Server's are dieing, last 2 games we had bad delay and random drops to 10fps. I couldn't see my mystic shots.

Some days playing this game just leaves me feeling hollow. Played around 8 matches today, all of them complete steamrolls, one way or the other.
it's my first day
s_side
Profile Joined May 2009
United States700 Posts
October 08 2010 03:04 GMT
#23055
On October 08 2010 09:31 s_side wrote:
Could someone point me in the right direction with Amumu in terms of masteries/item build/runes?

The linked ones are quite a bit outdated.

myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 08 2010 03:05 GMT
#23056
s_side, look about 4 posts above you
it's my first day
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
October 08 2010 03:05 GMT
#23057
On October 08 2010 11:29 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2010 09:31 s_side wrote:
Could someone point me in the right direction with Amumu in terms of masteries/item build/runes?

The linked ones are quite a bit outdated.


Here's what I use. It may not be completely optimal, but it works well.

Red: Magic Pen
Yellow: mp5 / lvl
Blue: MR / lvl
Quints: Health

Magic pen speeds up your jungle. Mp5 / lvl is nice, but I think flat armor is probably better, especially at lower levels. By the time you can no longer hog golem, you don't need it that much in general. MR / lvl is just awesome. Health quints are more for safety in the lower level jungling stages.

Masteries are 1/14/15 (Mogwai's jungle spec)

Offense: Smite, obviously
Defense: Strength of Spirit and all -dmg masteries
Utility: 3 points in Quickness, leaving 2 in Meditation (I think)

Items:
HoG
Boots 1 or Merc Treads depending on money/need
HoG
Negatron/Sunfire Cape/Randuin's
Negatron/Sunfire Cape/Randuin's
Build Negatron into something

This is obviously against a "balanced" team. You wanna get a Negatron earlier if there is significant magic damage threat to your health. Otherwise just get Sunfire earlier. Get those HoG as soon as possible, they are a big deal.

This is just a general guideline, tank items are very team-specific. But get those HoG's every game for the most part.

When your tears do like 20 damage to jungle mobs that aren't red/blue buff, magic pen won't help much. Also since jungle mobs have negative magic resist magic pen won't help. Armor pen is strictly better.
s_side
Profile Joined May 2009
United States700 Posts
October 08 2010 03:21 GMT
#23058
On October 08 2010 12:05 myopia wrote:
s_side, look about 4 posts above you


Yeah, I quoted the wrong post and then failed again. Thanks for the tips.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
October 08 2010 03:28 GMT
#23059
Hey guys any idea who I should email or PM regarding the ISP/IP ban/block cause I have yet to receive a response from them regarding the issue?
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 08 2010 03:38 GMT
#23060
I'm looking to build my fourth runepage now (tank) and am not entirely sure how I should go about filling it out.

Right now I'm thinking:

Q: Flat Health
G: MRpl
S: Flat Armor
M: ?

I'm not entirely sure what I should get for the reds. The tanks I mainly play are Malph and Morde (I use a different page for my Sion since he needs mp5 imo) and Garen will probably also be using this page.

Currently I'm at a complete loss for what to get for reds and am debating flat health or move speed quints.

Advice?
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