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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
October 05 2010 05:42 GMT
#22421
On October 05 2010 14:13 Liquin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 13:44 redtooth wrote:
On October 05 2010 12:07 Fishcakes wrote:
Swain Champ Spotlight
hai guys i think it's pointless to harass vlad early and easy to harass trist. i have no sense of laning so i got ganked by WW. i never did a full combo without making a mistake and got carried by a godlike malphite. it's ok since their tristana rushed LW first and their nidalee got tears of the goddess and their chogath had 3 basic-tier items.
Regardless, I'm still gonna have to get this sexy champion
phreak isn't sexy.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 05 2010 05:47 GMT
#22422
On October 05 2010 13:44 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 12:07 Fishcakes wrote:
Swain Champ Spotlight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i19hj3LVP7A
hai guys i think it's pointless to harass vlad early and easy to harass trist. i have no sense of laning so i got ganked by WW. i never did a full combo without making a mistake and got carried by a godlike malphite. it's ok since their tristana rushed LW first and their nidalee got tears of the goddess and their chogath had 3 basic-tier items.

Good one, haha.

I think this new hero looks... uninteresting? I mean, his ultimate is shiny and reminds me of locust swarm from wc3 which is the good part of him.

Then he got the voodoo from the witch doctor, the only thing i agree on in this spotlight is that DFG is a must have on him, rylais seems somewhat neglectable when you could get a zhonya instead.

You guys opinions?
In the woods, there lurks..
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 06:57:14
October 05 2010 06:07 GMT
#22423
Actually fuck it. i tested out a few things and 9/0/21is definitely teh way to go on ranged dps. assuming you're running ghost/flash and need them up asap. the 30% buff duration for lizard helps SO much as well, and free meki pendant ftw for laning.

Item wise im loving doran blade+ hp pot-> brutil-> BF sword-> last whisper -> finish IE-> sell doran blade, and keep fort/agility pot in inventory at all times.
Usually buying wards until you finish IE, then agility pot is way too important.

Also, the reason garen wtf owned me in the teamfights is because he was in a solo lane, and i was in a sidelane. Granted im being babysat and taking nearly all the creeps , but unless i open the game out 5-0 or something stupid, garen is just gonna shit all over me

tl;dr build IE+ LW + brutil and take solo lane with MF always. 9/0/21.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
October 05 2010 06:19 GMT
#22424
i go 21 in utility on every char Im not jungling with ..even then, if I can 1/8/21 I will =)
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 06:32:56
October 05 2010 06:32 GMT
#22425
On October 05 2010 15:19 BraveGhost wrote:
i go 21 in utility on every char Im not jungling with ..even then, if I can 1/8/21 I will =)

you're supposed to save smite for buffs anyways, 21 in utility would just apply to ur ghost then, which is really not worth it imo
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 05 2010 06:44 GMT
#22426
Torment alone makes me want to play Swain, because WD was one of my favorite DotA heroes. Also while DFG seems like a no-brainer, so did Dagon on WD but there ended up being other builds that were really solid as well because *gasp* you have teammates, and don't need to up front all of that damage yourself.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 05 2010 07:02 GMT
#22427
On October 05 2010 14:09 scintilliaSD wrote:
What's a good jungle Cho build? :o

You are in luck!

Jungle Chogath Guide
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
October 05 2010 07:53 GMT
#22428
On October 05 2010 15:44 red_ wrote:
Torment alone makes me want to play Swain, because WD was one of my favorite DotA heroes. Also while DFG seems like a no-brainer, so did Dagon on WD but there ended up being other builds that were really solid as well because *gasp* you have teammates, and don't need to up front all of that damage yourself.


i find this new swine character largely uninteresting, both gameplay wise and artwise, an elderly man walking on a stick with a bird on his shoulder doing battle... his ulti looks like rehashed ulti of nasus, with lifesteal instead of health bonus, and his other skill are largely uninteresting imo..
Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
October 05 2010 08:01 GMT
#22429
AD EZ item order/preference other than this one
Unprotected sex is like fast expanding in close positions. Its risky, but feels great when it works out
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 05 2010 08:39 GMT
#22430
On October 05 2010 16:53 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 15:44 red_ wrote:
Torment alone makes me want to play Swain, because WD was one of my favorite DotA heroes. Also while DFG seems like a no-brainer, so did Dagon on WD but there ended up being other builds that were really solid as well because *gasp* you have teammates, and don't need to up front all of that damage yourself.


i find this new swine character largely uninteresting, both gameplay wise and artwise, an elderly man walking on a stick with a bird on his shoulder doing battle... his ulti looks like rehashed ulti of nasus, with lifesteal instead of health bonus, and his other skill are largely uninteresting imo..

Except it's a toggle ability and not a 2 minute CD?

Also, LASER BIRD.
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AcOrP
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria148 Posts
October 05 2010 08:51 GMT
#22431
I started playing on EU server currently lvl 5 hope to see you around guys. Can you suggest me where its worth spending the first IP, should i buy champion yet ? And which one is worth it
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 05 2010 08:59 GMT
#22432
On October 05 2010 17:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 16:53 Shizuru~ wrote:
On October 05 2010 15:44 red_ wrote:
Torment alone makes me want to play Swain, because WD was one of my favorite DotA heroes. Also while DFG seems like a no-brainer, so did Dagon on WD but there ended up being other builds that were really solid as well because *gasp* you have teammates, and don't need to up front all of that damage yourself.


i find this new swine character largely uninteresting, both gameplay wise and artwise, an elderly man walking on a stick with a bird on his shoulder doing battle... his ulti looks like rehashed ulti of nasus, with lifesteal instead of health bonus, and his other skill are largely uninteresting imo..

Except it's a toggle ability and not a 2 minute CD?

Also, LASER BIRD.

I don't know why they didnt just call it laser bird, that name is so much better lol.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 05 2010 09:00 GMT
#22433
Character draft question in solo queue.

Here are the picks from memory, so one or two might be misplaced:

Bans: Amumu, Garen, Kog'Maw, Vladimir

(Team 2)Morgana

(Team 1)Twitch
(Team 1)Mordekaiser

(Team 2)Shen
(Team 2)Pantheon

(Team 1)Rammus
(Team 1)Sona

(Team 2)Udyr
(Team 2)Master Yi

(Team 1) ???


I'm on team 1, and our current line up is - Twitch, Mordekaiser, Rammus [JUNGLE], and Sona.
Against team 2, who have selected - Morgana, Shen, Pantheon, Udyr, and Master Yi

Knowing this, who do you pick and why? After you made your decision read the first spoiler.

+ Show Spoiler [MY TEAM'S CHOICE] +
I actually thought about picking Ryze. Their team is filled with very low-health DPS carries and I think Ryze would be an amazing pick with Rammus/Sona to just melt them to nothing. My team's Twitch urged me to go Galio though. I argued that they were all DPS and it seems ridiculous because we already have a Sona + ult and Rammus for CC. What are your thoughts on picking Galio here and why?


And after you write your post and submit it, check this spoiler so we don't be results oriented:

+ Show Spoiler [RESULTS] +
I picked Galio and we actually face rolled. Not sure how this would've worked verse most teams though as their Yi and Udyr were not that great. I was afraid of not having enough damage but actually our ability to survive just outlasted their ability to deal damage. That and Sona ult + Galio ult + Rammus ult 3v5 disintegrated them in less than 3 seconds at one point when we happened to catch all 5 of them together in an easy AOE for me and Sona to hit right after one another.

My item build was: Doran's Ring -> Sunfire Cape -> Ninja Tabi -> Sunfire Cape -> Guardian Angel. I think the build was actually really good considering their line-up, even if I miss out on AP. In the beginning I was considering going AP if the Twitch didn't carry but our whole team just pretty much raped shit up so I thought two Sunfire Capes were just a lot safer and they do 80x3 = 240 damage while I use my ultimate plus that damage, and everyone is melee with the exception of Morgana so boy did they get buttfucked.

[image loading]

I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
October 05 2010 09:02 GMT
#22434
On October 05 2010 15:07 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Actually fuck it. i tested out a few things and 9/0/21is definitely teh way to go on ranged dps. assuming you're running ghost/flash and need them up asap. the 30% buff duration for lizard helps SO much as well, and free meki pendant ftw for laning.

Item wise im loving doran blade+ hp pot-> brutil-> BF sword-> last whisper -> finish IE-> sell doran blade, and keep fort/agility pot in inventory at all times.
Usually buying wards until you finish IE, then agility pot is way too important.

Also, the reason garen wtf owned me in the teamfights is because he was in a solo lane, and i was in a sidelane. Granted im being babysat and taking nearly all the creeps , but unless i open the game out 5-0 or something stupid, garen is just gonna shit all over me

tl;dr build IE+ LW + brutil and take solo lane with MF always. 9/0/21.


lolo rush IE2gud why brutal

garen will shit on your face if you let him get near you even if you're 5-0



New patch made sense until I saw the Sivir changes, and realized Riot has no clue what's going on still
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
October 05 2010 09:12 GMT
#22435
Sivir

* Attack range increased to 425 from 400


OMFG!!!

GUESS WHO'S BACK!!!

BACK AGAIN!!!

Dammit but she'll be banned in every game now.
Cheese is good for you!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 05 2010 09:21 GMT
#22436
garen and sivir changes are really nice imo
can't wait to play RANGVIR again
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
October 05 2010 09:34 GMT
#22437
also lolling at everyone thinking sivir is back
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 09:54:02
October 05 2010 09:53 GMT
#22438
On October 05 2010 18:12 Scamp wrote:
Sivir

* Attack range increased to 425 from 400


OMFG!!!

GUESS WHO'S BACK!!!

BACK AGAIN!!!

Dammit but she'll be banned in every game now.


how much is 25 range value increase? 25 pixel across the screen?
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
October 05 2010 09:54 GMT
#22439
You guys won't be laughing when I'm hitting your turrets from the jungle!
Cheese is good for you!
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 10:10:42
October 05 2010 09:55 GMT
#22440
On October 05 2010 07:56 lgd-haze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 06:35 spinesheath wrote:
Hmm... Ashe... How rare.

I think all my allies will agree with me sharing this pic:

[image loading]

We were losing almost every single teamfight, but we kept pushing towers and inhibs. Sometimes we would make it out of the first few bursts of a fight and then we would win through sheer unkillability.
So awesome!

Also: Heimer is support! Fact!


You really missed out on the game after that. 5 tank composition! another 61 min madness game where we had half the kills. 21 sunfires in the game and they had bloodrazors on twitch.

That was so epic haha

Edit: That ryze in the support game had over 1k AP. He 1 shot us all haha

I had an all tank game quite a while ago, all just random picks in solo queue. Blitz, Alistar, Singed, Cho (me), dunno who the 5th was. It was such a stomp.

Nah Ryze only got me down to like 10% HP, I had 2 Negatrons and a RoA after all. And HP5! Then I flashed, he ran after me, grenade, missile, and killed by minions :p

On October 05 2010 18:53 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 18:12 Scamp wrote:
Sivir

* Attack range increased to 425 from 400


OMFG!!!

GUESS WHO'S BACK!!!

BACK AGAIN!!!

Dammit but she'll be banned in every game now.


how much is 25 range value increase? 25 pixel across the screen?

You know that pixels depend on your resolution in a 3D game? You could talk about pixels in SCBW, but not in LoL. It's 1/16th of her old range. 1/24th of Ashe's range. It's nothing.
Maybe a movement speed/range relation tells you more: With 300 MSpd it takes 2 seconds to cross 600 range. So Sivir now has at most 1/12th of a second more time before an enemy can close up to her.

Holy crap, Annie has the highest base range in the game? AD Annie ftw!
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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