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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
October 04 2010 12:39 GMT
#22341
On October 04 2010 21:09 Yiruru wrote:
Why do you run Def on MF fuuuuuuuuuuuu

You should have Mp5 -> No dodge. SoS = ?????? manamune??

IE + LW + BR is the most optimal against Sunfire Tanks. End with Thirster + GA.

Not sure why you had trouble with Garen on your game though, MF is like the easiest counter cause you can outrun Garen, and just hit him with Liz when he turns back.

or he'll just keep chasing you and you'll be completely useless ;o
i mean shit, im open for new ideas and stuff but i literally spent the last days dying to the same shit over and over again, trying everything. definitely cannot outrun garen with MF.

I dont run def on MF, im just saying 9/0/21 >> 0/9/21
i run 21/0/9.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
October 04 2010 13:08 GMT
#22342
noob run 9/0/21 and garen is ezpz to outrun =[

if he keeps chasing you, that's your teams problem. u guy's team comp is really bad for MF, chasing heroes like Nid and Udyr will just keep the enemy squishies away from you and you wont be able to ult anything
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 04 2010 13:11 GMT
#22343
Well that's why ideally we run Galio/Sona but you started playing other stuff so we swapped MF for Kayle np~

Anyways the top-end Garens run Flash/Ghost so it's a bit tricky "outrunning" Garen because once he hits you you're not outrunning him anymore ;p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 13:26:09
October 04 2010 13:23 GMT
#22344
On October 04 2010 19:30 Scamp wrote:
Apologies if I missed this but I've been away for the last few days and I don't think I saw this in the thread...

Does anyone know where I can watch a replay of the entire WCG finals?

WCG uploaded to their youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCyberGames#g/u

Who are you guys banning if you have to deal with a Garen?

Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 04 2010 13:38 GMT
#22345
When we're running Kayle something like Amumu/Vlad/Garen in that order, although if I'm Kassadin Garen's ban priority goes down (he's pretty ineffective vs Kass).

When we're running multi-AoE something like Amumu (unless we have first pick, then we dare them to let us have Amumu) Janna Morg with some nods to Xin GP Vlad.
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Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
October 04 2010 13:45 GMT
#22346
On October 04 2010 20:00 Southlight wrote:
My question about BR+LW still stands, regarding whether it's actually more effective than IE+LW when it comes to pinging down tanks, given that the carry won't have any MPen and a bit of MR might shut it down. I dunno, I don't play ranged DPS.


Here are the exact numbers: http://runeterra.com/forums/index.php?topic=11.0

Fundamentally BR+LW is bad because that combination pays for Armorpen yet doesn´t utilise it - the point of BR, the Magic damage doesn´t get anything out of LWs passive.

So in that speciffic scenario IE+LW is better than BR+LW but not because BR is a bad item but because BR and LW don´t synergise but IE+LW do.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 04 2010 13:55 GMT
#22347
What's the reason for getting IE over Bloodthirster? Is it because of green elixir?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 04 2010 14:05 GMT
#22348
Bad players agitate me like you wouldn't believe.

Just played a normal game where our lase player to pick a champion says "should I be Scion Mord or Malphite" (yes he spelled Sion wrong) "you should be Sion, since we need CC and a tank"
<our WW switches to Shaco and locks in>
<our "tank" picks WW and immediately locks in>

We have a shaco and a WW with neither in the jungle.

Shaco lanes with me (Sona) and I ask him why he didn't buy potions "I don't need them I'll be getting kills because I didn't take JitB" He proceeds to die twice and then go into the jungle, leaving me to solo lane against Amumu and Mundo (That's not going to end well)

So eventually we get an opportunity to do Baron and agree to push inner mid tower and claim the inhibitor then walk top and kill that inhib, as top's inhibitor tower was already down. Seems like a good plan and after baron we all go mid. Unsurprisingly, a teamfight breaks out and we get rolled, then I notice that WW used the teamfight as a diversion to run top and take the inhibitor. Of course if he was there we would have won the fight since we were winning all the teamfights prior.

It all goes downhill from there and when I start trying to explain to our shaco that he can't kill their amumu 1v1 because he has three sunfires and he is building a physical shaco and I get this response:

"You can't talk to me until you're positive" (I'm 8/12/16)
"I'm playing a support hero, I don't get many killing blows, besides 24 > 12 so I am positive"
"You're positive huh? By that logic we're all positive and we're still losing so you just made yourself sound retarded" (We're currently aced and are about to lose our third inhib)
"Well towers win games not kills"
"Kay"
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
October 04 2010 14:11 GMT
#22349
That's why i have a love hate relationship with Lol love the game but can't play too long because of all the retarded people.

It makes me fear for the future of humanity.
Firebathero fanboy - It's not that i'm dumb i'm just controlled by a retarded infestor - Day[9]
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 04 2010 14:16 GMT
#22350
Ignorance offends me.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 04 2010 14:16 GMT
#22351
On October 04 2010 22:45 Unentschieden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 20:00 Southlight wrote:
My question about BR+LW still stands, regarding whether it's actually more effective than IE+LW when it comes to pinging down tanks, given that the carry won't have any MPen and a bit of MR might shut it down. I dunno, I don't play ranged DPS.


Here are the exact numbers: http://runeterra.com/forums/index.php?topic=11.0

Fundamentally BR+LW is bad because that combination pays for Armorpen yet doesn´t utilise it - the point of BR, the Magic damage doesn´t get anything out of LWs passive.

So in that speciffic scenario IE+LW is better than BR+LW but not because BR is a bad item but because BR and LW don´t synergise but IE+LW do.


Cool, looks like either BR+SotD or IE+LW is still the way to go.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 14:23:47
October 04 2010 14:17 GMT
#22352
brutil + LW does a lot more DPS than i thought :O
holy shit double pot on IE + LW puts out a shitton of dps
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
October 04 2010 14:18 GMT
#22353
On October 04 2010 23:05 STS17 wrote:
Bad players agitate me like you wouldn't believe.

Just played a normal game where our lase player to pick a champion says "should I be Scion Mord or Malphite" (yes he spelled Sion wrong) "you should be Sion, since we need CC and a tank"
<our WW switches to Shaco and locks in>
<our "tank" picks WW and immediately locks in>

We have a shaco and a WW with neither in the jungle.

Shaco lanes with me (Sona) and I ask him why he didn't buy potions "I don't need them I'll be getting kills because I didn't take JitB" He proceeds to die twice and then go into the jungle, leaving me to solo lane against Amumu and Mundo (That's not going to end well)

So eventually we get an opportunity to do Baron and agree to push inner mid tower and claim the inhibitor then walk top and kill that inhib, as top's inhibitor tower was already down. Seems like a good plan and after baron we all go mid. Unsurprisingly, a teamfight breaks out and we get rolled, then I notice that WW used the teamfight as a diversion to run top and take the inhibitor. Of course if he was there we would have won the fight since we were winning all the teamfights prior.

It all goes downhill from there and when I start trying to explain to our shaco that he can't kill their amumu 1v1 because he has three sunfires and he is building a physical shaco and I get this response:

"You can't talk to me until you're positive" (I'm 8/12/16)
"I'm playing a support hero, I don't get many killing blows, besides 24 > 12 so I am positive"
"You're positive huh? By that logic we're all positive and we're still losing so you just made yourself sound retarded" (We're currently aced and are about to lose our third inhib)
"Well towers win games not kills"
"Kay"


How my games differ from yours

Step 1) /ignore ally
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 04 2010 14:23 GMT
#22354
On October 04 2010 23:17 HeavOnEarth wrote:
brutil + LW does a lot more DPS than i thought :O


No more bizarre BR+BT stuff, honey :p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
October 04 2010 14:41 GMT
#22355
On October 04 2010 19:33 Lucian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 15:46 arb wrote:
On October 04 2010 15:41 Lucian wrote:
Anyone able to give me a basic build + masteries/runes for Miss fortune, really looking to get good at a few heroes before hitting ranked o.O

personally i ran 21 in offense(people say its bad but eh w/e) 9 in utility for the xp + the buff time

i used health quints/arm pen reds/mp5 yellow/magic rez blue

ghost/flash or exhaust

dorans blade + pot
BF sword
boots 1
Inf Edge
boots 2(with good farming you can rush inf edge in under 20 mins)
then i get bloodthirster and by this time the games usually over, but if it goes on id get last whisper or black cleaver or something like that


Did this with 9/0/21 and some of the runes, ended up 14/2/11 too bad three of ours fed them over 40 kills and ended up losing can't wait for ranked and no more nubs.


More noobs in ranked than normal high levels...
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
October 04 2010 14:50 GMT
#22356
On October 04 2010 19:33 Lucian wrote:
can't wait for ranked and no more nubs.



This is just too funny. Prepare to get your dreams crushed as you realize incompetent players are everywhere. Normal, Ranked, <1200 ELO, <1300 ELO, <1400 ELO, etc. Garbage is everywhere.
#1 LoL player
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 04 2010 15:01 GMT
#22357
On October 04 2010 23:50 Jazriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 19:33 Lucian wrote:
can't wait for ranked and no more nubs.



This is just too funny. Prepare to get your dreams crushed as you realize incompetent players are everywhere. Normal, Ranked, <1200 ELO, <1300 ELO, <1400 ELO, etc. Garbage is everywhere.

u forgot 1400< ELO
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 04 2010 15:10 GMT
#22358
On October 05 2010 00:01 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 23:50 Jazriel wrote:
On October 04 2010 19:33 Lucian wrote:
can't wait for ranked and no more nubs.



This is just too funny. Prepare to get your dreams crushed as you realize incompetent players are everywhere. Normal, Ranked, <1200 ELO, <1300 ELO, <1400 ELO, etc. Garbage is everywhere.

u forgot 1400< ELO


You are much safer ignoring ELO altogether and just assuming ranked is a fancy way of assuring you can be the only one playing the OP FotM

There are very few people who are actually "good" at this game everyone else is just less awful then their opponents
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 04 2010 16:37 GMT
#22359
I'm so hit and miss with Yi. Sometimes I'll have a good team and we'll run them over 22-4 and other times we'll just get stomped so hard that we straight up can't win even after i backdoor an inhib at 20 mins =/. I don't feel comfortable diving with yi because 2 tower hits and he dies and donates double buff so its hard to gank in premades because everything is always pushed to the tower or it's kayle who has ult + w to escape any gank ever. Sorry about that game guys it's my fault, I couldn't get kills for you and then Akali just killed all of us at once.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 04 2010 16:49 GMT
#22360
Nah fuck that I'm the sickest Yi on TL did you see those other 3 games where I was raping the shit out of everyone 3v1 lolol
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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