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ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
September 28 2010 21:40 GMT
#20781
On September 29 2010 05:58 Mogwai wrote:
decision making skills under 1600 are so bad. I feel like I HAVE TO spend half the game just typing and pinging to get my team to not be retards in order to ever win unless I get lucky enough to have competent teammates. Uhg, I have no idea how I let myself fall into the 1550 range, it's really frustrating for me.

I mean, granted, I still have to do a lot of that in the 1600 range, but I'd say in that bracket it's more like 15-25% of the game pinging and typing rather than 40-60%.

EDIT: and I just remembered that the reason I thought of this was that I played against a 4 ignorable champs + twitch team last night with a 20 stack pantheon on my team who refused to buy any survivability and Panth and Rammus were using their stun + taunt on Shen EVERY SINGLE FIGHT, then Twitch pops and kills our whole team. God, it was so infuriating. What's so hard to understand about "wait for the twitch, DO NOT USE YOUR DISABLES ON ANYONE ELSE"? I just don't get why some people just won't listen.


:O you actually make the effort. Sometimes, I give up because people don't respond to one ping, you have to ping at least 20 times to get them moving.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 21:42:56
September 28 2010 21:41 GMT
#20782
On September 29 2010 06:20 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Dunno if someone's already posted this but the new champions abilities have been leaked (no ratios or anything like that)

* Carrion Renewal-passive

Swain gains 150% increased mana regeneration for 5 seconds upon killing a unit.

* Decrepify

Swain sets his raven to cripple an enemy. Over the next three seconds, the target takes damage over time and is slowed

* Nevermove

Swain marks a target area. After a short delay, mighty talons grab hold of enemy units dealing damage and rooting them.

* Ravenous Flock

Swain inspires dread in his enemies by temporarily taking the form of a raven. During this time ravens strike out at up to 3 nearby enemies. Each raven deals damage and heals Swain for the same amount.

* Torment

Swain afflicts his target, dealing damage over time. Each tick deals additional damage based on a percent of all damage taken from Swain during Torment (this includes the spell's periodic damage).


seems like a weird mix of malzahar and morgana, sounds like he'd be fun to play


Seems like a cobbled together hero from HoN/DotA.

Shadow Strike
Deadwood's tree thing
Rattletrap's shrapnel + heal
Malediction

Ult + DFG will do some sick damage


Reminds me of the south park episode.

SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT.

Who cares if HoN/DotA did something similar? It's like bashing a modern FPS game for having regenerating HP instead of health packs. Yeah, it's been done before but it works very well and makes the game more fun.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 28 2010 21:42 GMT
#20783
Sure, I'll mock something up tonight with what I'm thinking. And along with this, I wanna start banning twitch because he kinda ruins everything by being cloaked and even without establishing a warding strategy we seem to lose a disproportionally large amount of games to twitch.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 28 2010 21:42 GMT
#20784
I actually do that in solo q when nid. After
first back I buy 2-3 wards, try to get our red (this is the hardest part), ward buffs, and dick their jungle with my red and early game strength.

Problem with this is you guys would never take top for me/give me red so it's a bit hard. We should try it next time.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
September 28 2010 21:45 GMT
#20785
Swain feels like a renewed "project malzahar"

I hope not they are putting my dear malzy away now
Flying Tushin!!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 28 2010 21:46 GMT
#20786
to an extent, I agree, but I think it needs to be more coordinated than just that. what you just described is a solo queue strategy, specifically designed around poor coordination, I think we just need to refine exactly how we're going to dick their jungle over and deny them from getting freefarm anywhere.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 28 2010 21:58 GMT
#20787
On September 29 2010 06:46 Mogwai wrote:
to an extent, I agree, but I think it needs to be more coordinated than just that. what you just described is a solo queue strategy, specifically designed around poor coordination, I think we just need to refine exactly how we're going to dick their jungle over and deny them from getting freefarm anywhere.

The one time I did it I got a kill on Yi and pushed top hard, I think it's strong regardless of enemy team coordination, but I don't know.

We should maybe do panth push bot with red, I push top with blue (nid). We push the 2 lanes extremely hard and have their whole jungle warded to see if theyre coming for us. If you see them coming for you, you bait them while we baron and if they go for me you can kill bot/mid since they will never catch me.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 28 2010 22:04 GMT
#20788
On September 29 2010 06:41 ghen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 06:20 deth2munkies wrote:
On September 29 2010 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Dunno if someone's already posted this but the new champions abilities have been leaked (no ratios or anything like that)

* Carrion Renewal-passive

Swain gains 150% increased mana regeneration for 5 seconds upon killing a unit.

* Decrepify

Swain sets his raven to cripple an enemy. Over the next three seconds, the target takes damage over time and is slowed

* Nevermove

Swain marks a target area. After a short delay, mighty talons grab hold of enemy units dealing damage and rooting them.

* Ravenous Flock

Swain inspires dread in his enemies by temporarily taking the form of a raven. During this time ravens strike out at up to 3 nearby enemies. Each raven deals damage and heals Swain for the same amount.

* Torment

Swain afflicts his target, dealing damage over time. Each tick deals additional damage based on a percent of all damage taken from Swain during Torment (this includes the spell's periodic damage).


seems like a weird mix of malzahar and morgana, sounds like he'd be fun to play


Seems like a cobbled together hero from HoN/DotA.

Shadow Strike
Deadwood's tree thing
Rattletrap's shrapnel + heal
Malediction

Ult + DFG will do some sick damage


Reminds me of the south park episode.

SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT.

Who cares if HoN/DotA did something similar? It's like bashing a modern FPS game for having regenerating HP instead of health packs. Yeah, it's been done before but it works very well and makes the game more fun.

I don't give a shit if it's unoriginal, I'm just trying to understand the hero in terms I understand. It looks like it's gonna be a ton of fun to play, but it will be 6300.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 22:08:08
September 28 2010 22:07 GMT
#20789
So in my quest to become a half decent LoL player I tried buying wards in my normal solo queue, and what do you know, we get a gank on two guys trying to do the dragon early <3

Any tips on when to get wards and place them? Is there any special timing for it and are there special champs that should do it only? ( I play anivia )

Also when should you do dragon and baron respectivly?, obviously dragon is easier but eh.. yeah but any specific level you should be? Should you do it when the enemy team got some deaths etc or is it any point in risking a early dragon kill in a fairly low level game ( laning phases etc) ?
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 28 2010 22:15 GMT
#20790
Duh I just found out that not getting a Catalyst after GB/B causes huge mana issues on Ashe. Not so much because of the level up bonus - I usually get it at level 16, Sapphire crystal maybe level 15 - but because of the increased mana pool. Or rather the lack of it. I even had a Janna with Soul Shroud on my team but it just wasn't enough.
Our enemies were somewhat heavy on AD, at least the ones I cared about, so I opted for Atmas before Veil. I'm probably not going to do that again anytime soon.

What I have also been doing is
- starting with DShield most of the time (no more Regrowth)
- buying Mana Potions starting around level 9 (to compensate for the lack of Philo Stone)

Mana Potions are obviously more flexible than MP5 items, but I suck at using them while poking :p
They are cheaper as a short term solution, and as soon as I hit level 16 I should have much less of a mana issue anyways.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 22:21:53
September 28 2010 22:18 GMT
#20791
TL massinvite 5s went pretty well today. 21-7, 27 minute win. Poppy had all but one of their kills and that was by playing nuke-one-person-and-run.

Jungle Mundo new FotM.

oh and I'm now +60 W/L yaaay
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 28 2010 22:34 GMT
#20792
First solo q game in about a week. I pick twitch (need to practice the new fotm) and my masteries bug. Neither team has a jungler accept for our shaco who got red buff at lvl 1 and got a double kill because of our Sona running summoner Heal. My lane buddy Alistar dies to kennen/taric. I get a kill later and go kill Mf mid. I kill mid while Shaco gets another 2 kills top lane. Their team afk's and we finish the game in 12 minutes.

Oh 1600 elo <3
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
September 28 2010 22:39 GMT
#20793
On September 29 2010 07:15 spinesheath wrote:
Duh I just found out that not getting a Catalyst after GB/B causes huge mana issues on Ashe. Not so much because of the level up bonus - I usually get it at level 16, Sapphire crystal maybe level 15 - but because of the increased mana pool. Or rather the lack of it. I even had a Janna with Soul Shroud on my team but it just wasn't enough.
Our enemies were somewhat heavy on AD, at least the ones I cared about, so I opted for Atmas before Veil. I'm probably not going to do that again anytime soon.

What I have also been doing is
- starting with DShield most of the time (no more Regrowth)
- buying Mana Potions starting around level 9 (to compensate for the lack of Philo Stone)

Mana Potions are obviously more flexible than MP5 items, but I suck at using them while poking :p
They are cheaper as a short term solution, and as soon as I hit level 16 I should have much less of a mana issue anyways.


Just asking, but do you regularly get golem, and run mp/5 per lvl and the mp regen masteries?

Blue on ashe with volley is just pure poking gayness.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
September 28 2010 22:51 GMT
#20794
so what's the consensus on sona? should she built more RoA tanky so that she can get in there and soak up some hits while she's dealing damage, healing, buffing etc, or should she built just more like a caster with zhonyas AA etc?

does anybody have a build?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 28 2010 22:57 GMT
#20795
On September 29 2010 07:15 spinesheath wrote:
Duh I just found out that not getting a Catalyst after GB/B causes huge mana issues on Ashe. Not so much because of the level up bonus - I usually get it at level 16, Sapphire crystal maybe level 15 - but because of the increased mana pool. Or rather the lack of it. I even had a Janna with Soul Shroud on my team but it just wasn't enough.
Our enemies were somewhat heavy on AD, at least the ones I cared about, so I opted for Atmas before Veil. I'm probably not going to do that again anytime soon.

What I have also been doing is
- starting with DShield most of the time (no more Regrowth)
- buying Mana Potions starting around level 9 (to compensate for the lack of Philo Stone)

Mana Potions are obviously more flexible than MP5 items, but I suck at using them while poking :p
They are cheaper as a short term solution, and as soon as I hit level 16 I should have much less of a mana issue anyways.

What is GB/B? Good boots/boots?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 28 2010 22:59 GMT
#20796
ghostblade bruta
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 28 2010 23:02 GMT
#20797
I dunno if I'd even consider a catalyst after Ghostblade. If you're getting it after Brutalizer that's fine, though.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 28 2010 23:19 GMT
#20798
On September 29 2010 02:19 Brees wrote:
jungle singed with my armor page is pretty pro since there's no point in having cleanse anymore

Jungle singed is viable?
Whats the build i gotta try this
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 28 2010 23:20 GMT
#20799
I've been playing a lot of Sona recently. Take my thoughts for what they're worth since I'm level 19 ^_^

Soaking really depends on team comp and how aggressive the enemy team is. I like to start with a Meki pendant and 2 hp pots. You can stay in lane forever pretty much since you can spam heals. If you have mp5/lvl runes you can probably start with something else...I almost always build a tear of the godness since I have mana issues and turn it into an archangel's staff if time permits and I want the extra AP.

I like rushing a Mejal's. You're gonna be humping people all game for assists so you can easily get quite a few stacks. Zonya and Soul Shroud if I'm getting focused a lot or Rylai if people keep getting away. I have problems farming my lane generally as I just let my ally take all the last hits. Farming a RoA would be very impractical for me, but I suck so ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 28 2010 23:29 GMT
#20800
On September 29 2010 08:19 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 02:19 Brees wrote:
jungle singed with my armor page is pretty pro since there's no point in having cleanse anymore

Jungle singed is viable?
Whats the build i gotta try this


Just level up poison and build rod of ages as you normally would I guess.

I made it work by taking sapphire crystal + 2 pots first actually, but I doubt it's the best.
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