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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2010 19:49 GMT
#20761
but BR gives armor which is good vs an AD threat
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 28 2010 19:53 GMT
#20762
Turkey does something like Recurve -> Phage -> BR -> Frozen.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 28 2010 19:56 GMT
#20763
that's dumb, I don't even know why people finish mallet until they have a veil and a GA. phage is plenty and phage + Veil is only like 800 gold more than frozen mallet and is way better for your lifespan and is usually enough with your stupidtarded attack speed to keep people perma-slowed.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:05:20
September 28 2010 20:02 GMT
#20764
I just get red every time... do the same thing on kayle.. I hog red so much it's not funny/

Rylais is intriguing though.. I'm gonna try it out before shutting it down.

I tried stinger, finish nashoors tooth later before, not the biggest fan..

also I think people get mallet cause most times it doesn't really matter what you get after bloodrazor you are just gonna roll over the opponents, so some don't realize it might not be the most optimal way to build..

Im gonna try this..

Dorans, Boots, Bloodrazor and boots 2, negatron and giants belt, rylais, banshees, tank items
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:08:01
September 28 2010 20:07 GMT
#20765
your veil and tank items are too late, but w/e bro.

rylai's was the original cool way to play Kog and it's why everyone thought he was low tier. It's extremely entertaining gunning people down from halfway across the map with your ult, but it's just too mana intensive and takes too long.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:14:58
September 28 2010 20:14 GMT
#20766
Dunno if someone's already posted this but the new champions abilities have been leaked (no ratios or anything like that)

* Carrion Renewal-passive

Swain gains 150% increased mana regeneration for 5 seconds upon killing a unit.

* Decrepify

Swain sets his raven to cripple an enemy. Over the next three seconds, the target takes damage over time and is slowed

* Nevermove

Swain marks a target area. After a short delay, mighty talons grab hold of enemy units dealing damage and rooting them.

* Ravenous Flock

Swain inspires dread in his enemies by temporarily taking the form of a raven. During this time ravens strike out at up to 3 nearby enemies. Each raven deals damage and heals Swain for the same amount.

* Torment

Swain afflicts his target, dealing damage over time. Each tick deals additional damage based on a percent of all damage taken from Swain during Torment (this includes the spell's periodic damage).


seems like a weird mix of malzahar and morgana, sounds like he'd be fun to play
RIP Aaliyah
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:19:12
September 28 2010 20:18 GMT
#20767
On September 29 2010 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Dunno if someone's already posted this but the new champions abilities have been leaked (no ratios or anything like that)

* Carrion Renewal-passive

Swain gains 150% increased mana regeneration for 5 seconds upon killing a unit.

* Decrepify

Swain sets his raven to cripple an enemy. Over the next three seconds, the target takes damage over time and is slowed

* Nevermove

Swain marks a target area. After a short delay, mighty talons grab hold of enemy units dealing damage and rooting them.

* Ravenous Flock

Swain inspires dread in his enemies by temporarily taking the form of a raven. During this time ravens strike out at up to 3 nearby enemies. Each raven deals damage and heals Swain for the same amount.

* Torment

Swain afflicts his target, dealing damage over time. Each tick deals additional damage based on a percent of all damage taken from Swain during Torment (this includes the spell's periodic damage).


seems like a weird mix of malzahar and morgana, sounds like he'd be fun to play


Indeed, this shall be my new purchase. I hope its not another 6,3k hero.. was a pain saving that for anivia

Better start saving either way.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:37:50
September 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#20768
You guys are weird with Kog. 700 AP build 600 dmg ultis all the way. His lvl 3 ulti is so ridiculous you don't need armor or survivability: They can never even get close to you.

Tear + Mejais, build for AA. Void Staff, Zhonya's, RoA for lulz. Just if they're packing lots of MR just snag red buff, otherwise whore blue.

Playing AP Kog is so much fun, because you can actually do something before level 11, he farms like a god (1 E and 1 R and entire creep wave is dead), and late-game, tower hugging enemies are a joke. I'll just sit there and bring their entire team down to 1/2 health. I'm really good with skillshots.

And if there's ever a teamfight, doing over 2.5k damage on E when E is spammable, how do you die?
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 28 2010 20:39 GMT
#20769
On September 29 2010 02:07 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 02:05 Mogwai wrote:
Garen is absolutely bonkers. I wish I could play him every game.



Well I usually play MF and hes really really not scarey at all. Red buff plus the fact that shes normally faster than him makes him basically a walking meatbag.

teach me how to prooo
all garen needs is exhaust or flash+silence and then ur like oh shit i get chain stunned. D;
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 28 2010 20:40 GMT
#20770
wow, thanks Jazriel! I'll definitely try that out the next time I have 10K to spend on AP items!
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#20771
On September 29 2010 05:39 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 02:07 Phrost wrote:
On September 29 2010 02:05 Mogwai wrote:
Garen is absolutely bonkers. I wish I could play him every game.



Well I usually play MF and hes really really not scarey at all. Red buff plus the fact that shes normally faster than him makes him basically a walking meatbag.

teach me how to prooo
all garen needs is exhaust or flash+silence and then ur like oh shit i get chain stunned. D;


All MF needs is a Kassadin to perma-snare Garen and pre-silence.

Oh snap!
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:47:51
September 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#20772
On September 29 2010 05:37 Jazriel wrote:
You guys are weird with Kog. 700 AP build 600 dmg ultis all the way. His lvl 3 ulti is so ridiculous you don't need armor or survivability: They can never even get close to you.

Tear + Mejais, build for AA. Void Staff, Zhonya's, RoA for lulz. Just if they're packing lots of MR just snag red buff, otherwise whore blue.

Playing AP Kog is so much fun, because you can actually do something before level 11, he farms like a god (1 E and 1 R and entire creep wave is dead), and late-game, tower hugging enemies are a joke. I'll just sit there and bring their entire team down to 1/2 health. I'm really good with skillshots.

And if there's ever a teamfight, doing over 2.5k damage on E when E is spammable, how do you die?

AP kog is terrible at higher elos,
pretty anything at your elo can rape assuming you're 186 win unranked Jazriel on US LoL server.
Sorry to break it to you, but it may be that people are bad at dodging skillshots, rather than you being good at them ;o
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 28 2010 20:52 GMT
#20773
It may also be that people blow at killing squishies. Like that normal game yesterday, where the other team had like 4 AoE stuns and I was roflling as Turkey went 21-2-5 and they were wasting all their shit on me (Kassadin). They were probably like 13/14XX but so bad.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 21:00:38
September 28 2010 20:58 GMT
#20774
decision making skills under 1600 are so bad. I feel like I HAVE TO spend half the game just typing and pinging to get my team to not be retards in order to ever win unless I get lucky enough to have competent teammates. Uhg, I have no idea how I let myself fall into the 1550 range, it's really frustrating for me.

I mean, granted, I still have to do a lot of that in the 1600 range, but I'd say in that bracket it's more like 15-25% of the game pinging and typing rather than 40-60%.

EDIT: and I just remembered that the reason I thought of this was that I played against a 4 ignorable champs + twitch team last night with a 20 stack pantheon on my team who refused to buy any survivability and Panth and Rammus were using their stun + taunt on Shen EVERY SINGLE FIGHT, then Twitch pops and kills our whole team. God, it was so infuriating. What's so hard to understand about "wait for the twitch, DO NOT USE YOUR DISABLES ON ANYONE ELSE"? I just don't get why some people just won't listen.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 28 2010 20:58 GMT
#20775
Our decision-making at mid-high 16XX as a team blows, too >_o
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 28 2010 21:02 GMT
#20776
I also just think we need to rethink warding and banning.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 28 2010 21:18 GMT
#20777
We can re-think banning, I dunno what to do about wards. I feel like for the most part our whole team of collectively decent individual players feels compelled to carry, and only when I'm Sona do we ever really get ward control.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 21:29:50
September 28 2010 21:20 GMT
#20778
On September 29 2010 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Dunno if someone's already posted this but the new champions abilities have been leaked (no ratios or anything like that)

* Carrion Renewal-passive

Swain gains 150% increased mana regeneration for 5 seconds upon killing a unit.

* Decrepify

Swain sets his raven to cripple an enemy. Over the next three seconds, the target takes damage over time and is slowed

* Nevermove

Swain marks a target area. After a short delay, mighty talons grab hold of enemy units dealing damage and rooting them.

* Ravenous Flock

Swain inspires dread in his enemies by temporarily taking the form of a raven. During this time ravens strike out at up to 3 nearby enemies. Each raven deals damage and heals Swain for the same amount.

* Torment

Swain afflicts his target, dealing damage over time. Each tick deals additional damage based on a percent of all damage taken from Swain during Torment (this includes the spell's periodic damage).


seems like a weird mix of malzahar and morgana, sounds like he'd be fun to play


Seems like a cobbled together hero from HoN/DotA.

Shadow Strike
Deadwood's tree thing
Rattletrap's shrapnel + heal
Malediction

Ult + DFG will do some sick damage
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 28 2010 21:33 GMT
#20779
which we need to change IMO -_-. I mean, if we're doing this tank-light comp, I think we need to get early map presence and leverage it into quick advantages rather than rushing our builds. Playing a roaming and ganking style with map hack just seems better than focusing on our own items as much as we do. *shrugs* I dunno, I just wanna try some shit where we do stuff like after first back, everyone buys 2-3 wards and starts warding particular chokes depending on how the game's going.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 28 2010 21:38 GMT
#20780
wanna draw ward spots on the minimap for me? i honesty just ward dragon and enemy lizard when im mid
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
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