EPTMaster Yi should have Alistar's passive
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
Master Yi should have Alistar's passive | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 28 2010 12:56 CEPEHDREI wrote: any livestreams right now? sorry for asking  Still streaming. Not a great game to end on though *rolls eyes* | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On September 28 2010 14:05 Southlight wrote: Still streaming. Not a great game to end on though *rolls eyes* | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On September 28 2010 02:13 Xenocide_Knight wrote: ' erm what runes/masteries do you run? how do you end up with 30% dodge? God my TF needs help lol. Ive resorted to running AP TF so at least I never have to get into autoattack range until its a guranteed kill dodge quints + dodge seals + phantom dancers | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On September 28 2010 03:41 Iplaythings wrote: Armor reds / quints, mana p5 yellows, flat CDR blues 1/14/15 masteries with imp smite, less damage from phys and minions, exp mastery, meditate, and the 30% buff longevity smite ghost if you dont wanna get creep jacked, (and dont wanna depend on Q luck) Open clotharmor + 5 pot into madreds or lantern (bloodrazors later maybe) I had a variation where I opened dagger + 1 pot first, but noone liked the guide I wrote for it (even though it was a perfectly safe jungle build -_-) Press Q. Alot. I'd say the safest way is to open with small golems (or wraiths, but ur mid might be an ass and jack the exp off it) - wraithes - wolves (go back and heal, u shouldnt had used more than 1 potion so far, even less if u were lucky with Q, if you were super lucky go jack their wraiths as well, even though u probally should just kill the mini lizards at golem if youre against a jungler and go back) buy something useful and do golem. Jungling frm here should be a breeze (even meetin a WW only turned out well for me) I run a 21/9/0 armor pen reds dodge seals atk speed blues dodge OR armor pen quints Open cloth + pots + Q. Profit. On September 28 2010 05:18 HeavOnEarth wrote: but you could triforce AND revive shen. this reminds me of my triforce garen. So much bravery with Q damage. Pardon my double post | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
And Yi is such a strong jungler so 21/0/9 is just as viable (or 21/9/0 for that matter). I just use mogwais jungle masterys 24/7 nowadays and its soo strong for me, you get good survive, extra buff time and mana - tried that specc as WW is probally overkill but i literally didnt go below 60% at lvl 1 golem without healthpotions I think I'd escape any gank with EASE, it also does a somewhat safe lvl 4 dragon sneak with ww. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
Just played around with nasus today, sure is one strong and tough muthafuuuka, easy as hell to farm but the main problem i have is with the mana pool, without certain mana regen items i feel that even with sheen and triforce out mana dries up too fast.. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On September 28 2010 16:48 TieN.nS) wrote: You shouldn't have any problems with mana if you have mp5/lvl glyphs and meditation. mp5 runes isnt needed if you want to invest in a chalice | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
there really isn't any runes more useful in the seal slot imo.. being able to lane longer, more $ to spend on whatever you would have in place of the mp5 runes... also being able to lane longer means higher level, more harass on opponent... etc | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On September 28 2010 12:00 gtrsrs wrote: if you are playing against baddies (you probably are at this point) he's great. i've seen friends get ludicrous numbers as mordekaiser and never dip below 90% health. good players, however, will completely ignore you because attacking a mordekaiser is futile, and since you only do very small chip damage, you will have 0 impact in real fights the key to playing morde well is ulting their hardest carry (tristana especially) just before they die so they become your slave, then using them to tear apart your opponents. that's really morde's only threat if the enemy is smart enough to ignore him Mordekaiser is very underestimated. Building CDR and tank shit on him gives more than enough damage threat for all but the latest phase of the game (and by the time everyone hits 18 your real carries should start carrying). I'd say he actually does a lot of damage even without any damage items. His true weaknesses are: 1) Lack of CC/escape. He cannot chase, he cannot escape. He's very one-sided in that regard, much like Garen. That also limits his teamfight effectiveness, but just standing there and doing damage all the while having their Tristana ulted is good enough. Building Rylai's is fun, but it's a huge amount of gold thrown into the window because his AP ratios are atrocious, CDR is so much better for his damage. 2) Reliance on heavy pushing in the laning phase. Morderkaiser lanes are very very vulnerable to ganks. He looks invincible in lane, but as soon as it's 3v2 or 2v1, he suddenly becomes very fragile and dies quickly because he cannot escape anything in the world. Situation gets even worse if there are no creeps around. 2) Very weak ganker and requires a solo lane to be truly efficient. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
The gold gain is decent. True fact. Some champs might have better passives, but that doesn't make TF's passive bad. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On September 28 2010 17:28 spinesheath wrote: Why are people complaining about TF's passive and then they still use runes... you know, that 0.95 MPen won't mean anything in most of the cases. Would you still run with one less MPen mark? The gold gain is decent. True fact. Some champs might have better passives, but that doesn't make TF's passive bad. Wrong comparison, if you didn't have MPen mark, you'd have another rune in this slot, if TF didn't have bad passive, he'd have another (hopefully better) passive in this slot. That's what people complain about - every champ has passive but some champs have bad passives and it's "unfair". Talking about passive - anyone made calculations at which point his new passive breaks even with old passive?  (like assuming that all the gold u get u invest in the crit chance) | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
also... I love TFs passive, | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
should've just make it 3 pieces each for the runes imo On September 28 2010 17:49 BraveGhost wrote: The problem is how passives are looked at, same as ultimates... not everyone can have a godly passive like Annies, that's her special trait. look at nidalee's passive for example...which im not a fan of... but not everyone can have a godly ultimate like amummus that's one of his special traits, and he has a medicore passive.. but does have its uses... also... I love TFs passive, how do you justify Alistars passive then? or maybe even eve's? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Horuku
United States405 Posts
On September 28 2010 16:36 Shizuru~ wrote: what do u guys think of incorporating Tiamat into a nasus build? Just played around with nasus today, sure is one strong and tough muthafuuuka, easy as hell to farm but the main problem i have is with the mana pool, without certain mana regen items i feel that even with sheen and triforce out mana dries up too fast.. Tiamat is a waste with Nasus, because spirit fire farms way too well to need it. Good Nasus guides will tell you to get mana regen/lvl blue runes which help eliminate his (and a lot of mana heros) issues. Taking utility mastery for the 1mana/sec skill is also helpful. If you aren't tier 3 or can't afford the runes yet, then you're going to have to build a chalice first till you can. | ||
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