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On June 26 2010 12:27 Keilah wrote:
Hey I was just playing some civ4, and wondering... why do people generally love universities? They're so expensive. Is it just for Oxford? Banks and observatories, the closest parallels to universities, seem to be better.
And what about wall street? Do people build that? It's quite the hammer investment, and it requires a lot of expensive banks in other cities as well.
Kinda seems to me like the best way to run an economy is to have a lot of cities doing science with one city running specialists for gold, or vice versa. Needing a lot of universities/banks to get the +100% building seems to make that idea suck =[
City specialization is a big deal. Holy city of well spread and shrined religion+wall street pays for half your empire. Same thing with a science city, great library+oxford makes up half your tech rate.
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On June 25 2010 22:50 nosliw wrote:
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Report coming later today
I took 3 cities from Hannibal!
Did you PM the next guy?
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Yeah I PMed hte next person, save is here:
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Yeah, I agree. Seeing how behind we are in tech makes me feel like we aren't going to have a late game...
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On June 28 2010 22:18 Pakje wrote:
beeline the internet =P
Hahahahaha
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Okay, should we move on to the next guy now?
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On June 28 2010 19:41 Mystlord wrote:Good sets of turns. I'm surprised we're doing so well militarily despite our tech disadvantage. But military is always easy. We'll just have to see how we handle our post-war economy, and I have a feeling that we're still going to lose spectacularly 
My best bet is that you'll be pumping out riflemen when some AI is going to hit you with modern armour and what not while the other one will be finishing the spaceship.
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I PMed the next guy 3 days ago... How long do we wait for a response?
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On June 28 2010 19:41 Mystlord wrote:
But military is always easy. We'll just have to see how we handle our post-war economy,
ALL ESPIONAGE
srsly look at the numbers, it's sooooooooooo efficient compared to self-researching and there's no way we're ever gonna take the lead
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On June 30 2010 11:36 nosliw wrote:
I PMed the next guy 3 days ago... How long do we wait for a response?
Yeah, his time is up
j4s has forfeited his move and it is now Keilah's turn
Ive PM'ed Keilah
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got the save, but we're so ridiculously crushed the only reason to continue playing is as a gag, just to see how we end up losing... but I'm not the type of guy to do that. Really sorry if this is unsporting of me, but I'm going to have to pass my turn and vote that we go ahead and end the game.
Perhaps someone so inclined could declare war on every civ and do a writeup of him trying to survive his 20 turns =]
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I guess you know your stuff Keilah, so I can't argue with that. Still, you paint yourself as a quiter there. Perhaps others are ignorant of the winning chances, but you should do it for + Show Spoiler +. Also, I am very curious of the possibilities that heavy espionage could bring (as a spectator).
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If people think it is basically over, why don't all the regular players pick up the save from now, play the next 50 turns or so, and see how well they did. It might show some different thought processes while not tying everyone down into a dead game for the next 3 weeks.
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On July 02 2010 08:13 Manifesto7 wrote:
If people think it is basically over, why don't all the regular players pick up the save from now, play the next 50 turns or so, and see how well they did. It might show some different thought processes while not tying everyone down into a dead game for the next 3 weeks.
This is a great idea! I'd try, but I'm only somewhere around prince (doubt I could solo monarch) so if anyone has a chance of not coming in last, it's not me.
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Ok, well looks like this game has died.
I guess that means we admit defeat 
If anyone wants to do a post where they finish off the game, please go ahead. You can declare on the entire world or something and see our whole civ go down in flames, or if you think you can beat this game still, I'd love to see a report of that.
Poll: Admit defeat and go onto next game?Never, la resistance will live on (8) 62% Aye, we be defeated :( (5) 38% 13 total votes Your vote: Admit defeat and go onto next game? (Vote): Aye, we be defeated :(
(Vote): Never, la resistance will live on
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Without blaming anyone in particular, I'd be curious to know the opinion of experienced players concerning what went wrong this game, what could have been done better?
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I think it was because we were unclear on which economic route to take (cottage everything or farming/specialist). We also missed our rush window.
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Wasted waaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on the "mass expansion" idea (which isn't a smart move anyway- maintainance will kill you) instead of Pret rushing the hell out of 3-4 neighbours and securing their lands for later expansion (when you can actually afford to have more than 3-4 cities).
Get Iron ASAP. ignore everything else. Pump prets from 2 cities (preferably with baracks) conquer the good (and close !!!) shit (pyramids are sweeeeeeet), sack the rest.
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