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red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
November 10 2010 04:02 GMT
#641
On November 09 2010 17:18 InfeSteD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 15:24 red.venom wrote:
no shame losin to Tatsu.

i live like 30minutes away but like a lot of people in socal i just havent been putting in any effort(For me its cuz of SC2 and also that Ive always preferred vanilla to Super).. and i hate to compete if im not giving it a serious effort.


isnt viper better in super though? and also .... did u watch jayce the ace? hes leveled up incredibly and beat tokido and almost beat him the second time around... thats so impressive


Jayce is good, though ill just say that his play seems to be kinda "all out" he loses a lot cuz his defense isnt great.

viper is to me far worse in super. There are some exceptions(vs zangief is easier to an extent) but a lot of her bad or good matchups got worse. I mean its not a bottom of the barrel type situation but i think having taken her ultra damage so far down really hurts a character who can basically land an ultra so reliably. Then many of her normals are slightly different(close mp does less blockstun for instance, to the point where you cant even do close s.mp, c.mp as a string.. you will get thrown lol!) and air burn kicks have af ew frames less blockstun. Her post-throw mixup game is a lot worse. I mean whatever, some people will see it as taking some of the "random" out of the character. Thats fine. But I also play Ryu(in fact mostly play Ryu in super) and hes just hella gay now too. Antiair does like no damage. Antiair a honda jumping at you 3 times and its like nothing then get hit by a random hk and he ties it up.

im hella ranting at this point but arcade edition just further nerfing the characters. its like sad. just take a good start of a series(vanilla) and then homogenize all damage and everything until every char is somehow viable. makes shit extra gay in tournaments, people never counterpicked so much in vanilla
Broom
Huko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 04:17:35
November 10 2010 04:10 GMT
#642
Can anyone give me tips of actually how to do ultras?:-P I can do them in practice but against real computer I can't do anything Also, I find it impossible to do THawk's ultra!
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
November 10 2010 04:35 GMT
#643
Just practice man. Also try to think about your techniques(for doing motions or hitting buttons) and whether they can improved. Most good players hit training mode ALL the time. I definitely know some top players who will training mode anytime they arent doing anything else.

Also youtube has some good tutorials now
Broom
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
November 10 2010 07:16 GMT
#644
On November 10 2010 13:10 Huko wrote:
Can anyone give me tips of actually how to do ultras?:-P I can do them in practice but against real computer I can't do anything Also, I find it impossible to do THawk's ultra!


Thawk U1, you mean? the 720?

You don't just bust out a 720 while standing on the ground (unless you're Hayao). You have to either empty jump (jump without attacking) and spin the stick while you're falling and hit the buttons when you land, or do it while you're blocking or recovering from a move.

If you can do hadoukens, just think of it like 2 hadoukens. No need to rush it usually. Most combo's can be done relatively slow & easily once your hands are used to the motions.
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
November 10 2010 07:59 GMT
#645
I've been switching to Dee jay as my main after bison and damn its fun. But His Ex machine gun to U2 is REALLY hard to set up. I heard it has the strictest timing ? The only person i've seen doing is Akimo/takehiko331.

And his j.hp is such a good anti-air/zoning tool. But i'm having so much trouble against chars with shoryu/good wake ups and zangief/thawk.
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
November 10 2010 23:19 GMT
#646
On November 10 2010 13:02 red.venom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 17:18 InfeSteD wrote:
On November 09 2010 15:24 red.venom wrote:
no shame losin to Tatsu.

i live like 30minutes away but like a lot of people in socal i just havent been putting in any effort(For me its cuz of SC2 and also that Ive always preferred vanilla to Super).. and i hate to compete if im not giving it a serious effort.


isnt viper better in super though? and also .... did u watch jayce the ace? hes leveled up incredibly and beat tokido and almost beat him the second time around... thats so impressive


Jayce is good, though ill just say that his play seems to be kinda "all out" he loses a lot cuz his defense isnt great.

viper is to me far worse in super. There are some exceptions(vs zangief is easier to an extent) but a lot of her bad or good matchups got worse. I mean its not a bottom of the barrel type situation but i think having taken her ultra damage so far down really hurts a character who can basically land an ultra so reliably. Then many of her normals are slightly different(close mp does less blockstun for instance, to the point where you cant even do close s.mp, c.mp as a string.. you will get thrown lol!) and air burn kicks have af ew frames less blockstun. Her post-throw mixup game is a lot worse. I mean whatever, some people will see it as taking some of the "random" out of the character. Thats fine. But I also play Ryu(in fact mostly play Ryu in super) and hes just hella gay now too. Antiair does like no damage. Antiair a honda jumping at you 3 times and its like nothing then get hit by a random hk and he ties it up.

im hella ranting at this point but arcade edition just further nerfing the characters. its like sad. just take a good start of a series(vanilla) and then homogenize all damage and everything until every char is somehow viable. makes shit extra gay in tournaments, people never counterpicked so much in vanilla


u kinda remind me of myself.... even though vanilla had broken stuff like Gens hands, Sagat, Ryu's fierce uppercut, etc etc etc.... I think it made the game so much funner... I personally liked Vanilla way better than Super....I think U2s in super are so damn fuckin brainless... but I miss playin wit u buddy... get live

U gotta see how much better Ive gotten dude... like I remember when i used to play u I thought i was good and i look back and see how much better u were than all of us at the time.. ur viper was legit...
w/e
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
November 10 2010 23:20 GMT
#647
On November 10 2010 16:59 dragoonkf wrote:
I've been switching to Dee jay as my main after bison and damn its fun. But His Ex machine gun to U2 is REALLY hard to set up. I heard it has the strictest timing ? The only person i've seen doing is Akimo/takehiko331.

And his j.hp is such a good anti-air/zoning tool. But i'm having so much trouble against chars with shoryu/good wake ups and zangief/thawk.


Why would u switch from bison to deejay? Deejays is soooo gay and boring to play with his little ambiguous jump in short ... Bison is a boss... I fear good bisons
w/e
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 22:31:25
November 12 2010 22:30 GMT
#648
On November 10 2010 16:59 dragoonkf wrote:
I've been switching to Dee jay as my main after bison and damn its fun. But His Ex machine gun to U2 is REALLY hard to set up. I heard it has the strictest timing ? The only person i've seen doing is Akimo/takehiko331.

And his j.hp is such a good anti-air/zoning tool. But i'm having so much trouble against chars with shoryu/good wake ups and zangief/thawk.


you can do ex machine gun -> walk forward -> U2. you don't have to dash

charge db for the machine gun, then hit ub+PP. its usually best to go back to db after you do that move simply cuz it makes the rest a lot easier. when ur punches finish, go to forward, walk for a sec like a single step, then do half circle back, ub+PPP

if you hold forward too long, you'll lose your charge. if you don't hold forward long enough, U2 will whiff ^_^ figure it out
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 12 2010 22:33 GMT
#649
On November 11 2010 08:20 InfeSteD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 16:59 dragoonkf wrote:
I've been switching to Dee jay as my main after bison and damn its fun. But His Ex machine gun to U2 is REALLY hard to set up. I heard it has the strictest timing ? The only person i've seen doing is Akimo/takehiko331.

And his j.hp is such a good anti-air/zoning tool. But i'm having so much trouble against chars with shoryu/good wake ups and zangief/thawk.


Why would u switch from bison to deejay? Deejays is soooo gay and boring to play with his little ambiguous jump in short ... Bison is a boss... I fear good bisons


dee jay has a zoning game that is even stronger than guile's, but absolutely nothing else. his reversals are really easy to deal with, and his damage sucks, but don't jump over a fireball!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
November 13 2010 04:30 GMT
#650
On November 13 2010 07:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 08:20 InfeSteD wrote:
On November 10 2010 16:59 dragoonkf wrote:
I've been switching to Dee jay as my main after bison and damn its fun. But His Ex machine gun to U2 is REALLY hard to set up. I heard it has the strictest timing ? The only person i've seen doing is Akimo/takehiko331.

And his j.hp is such a good anti-air/zoning tool. But i'm having so much trouble against chars with shoryu/good wake ups and zangief/thawk.


Why would u switch from bison to deejay? Deejays is soooo gay and boring to play with his little ambiguous jump in short ... Bison is a boss... I fear good bisons


dee jay has a zoning game that is even stronger than guile's, but absolutely nothing else. his reversals are really easy to deal with, and his damage sucks, but don't jump over a fireball!


He's also nearly impossible to cross up on wakeup.
Moderator
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 08:39:07
November 14 2010 08:35 GMT
#651
DeeJay sux

P.S. I guess, I ll elaborate more to not sound retarded like usual.... street fighter "AT THE END" it boils down to a couple things that separate the high level players from the scrubs...

1. Normals (Footsies)
2. Throwing Game (Tic Throwing) 3. Counter Hit Set ups...

pretty much when someone gets close to you (through normals/footsies) he's gonna start doing throws and condition you to tec or watever and then set up counter hits to do even more damage and of course get you in the corner

so yah, I was just saying Bison has better tools for that kind of game .... and you have to exclude some characters that dont live up by those rules (Fuerte, Viper, etc...) they re straight up crazy damaging mix up
w/e
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 18:17:27
November 14 2010 16:33 GMT
#652
*Canadian SF plug incoming*

The Canada Cup is running this weekend in Calgary, Alberta (near west coast Canada). Team Spooky is streaming the event, although the stream for today isn't up yet.

SSF4 singles is down to top-8.

In winners:
- Daigo
- Mago
- Mike Ross
- JS Master (Toronto player)

In losers:
- Jozhear (Edmonton player? FakeSteve halp.)
- Gootecks (sent to losers by Mago, although he came close to winning.)
- Air (west coast Canadian / Japanese / Hong Kong player.)
- Justin Wong (sent to losers by JS Master's balrog. it was not close.)

Edit: stream is up, but they aren't running matches yet.

Coming up:
- STHD top 4
- SSF4 teams top 5
- possible cosplay contest
- SSF4 singles top 8

Left In Teams:
Team Calgary (Lap Chi, Hai, Phil)
Team USA (EG Jwong, Mike Ross, Gootecks)
Team Japan (Air, Daigo, Mago)
Spiral Guys Fanclub (Jozhear, JSMaster, Killacam)
Salty Congee (Wilson Derek Sampson)

In Singles:
Winners: JSMaster Daigo Umehara, Mago, Mike Ross.
Losers: EG Justin Wong, Jozhear, Gootecks, Air.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
November 14 2010 18:40 GMT
#653
On November 15 2010 01:33 Bill307 wrote:
*Canadian SF plug incoming*

The Canada Cup is running this weekend in Calgary, Alberta (near west coast Canada). Team Spooky is streaming the event, although the stream for today isn't up yet.

SSF4 singles is down to top-8.

In winners:
- Daigo
- Mago
- Mike Ross
- JS Master (Toronto player)

In losers:
- Jozhear (Edmonton player? FakeSteve halp.)
- Gootecks (sent to losers by Mago, although he came close to winning.)
- Air (west coast Canadian / Japanese / Hong Kong player.)
- Justin Wong (sent to losers by JS Master's balrog. it was not close.)

Edit: stream is up, but they aren't running matches yet.

Coming up:
- STHD top 4
- SSF4 teams top 5
- possible cosplay contest
- SSF4 singles top 8

Show nested quote +
Left In Teams:
Team Calgary (Lap Chi, Hai, Phil)
Team USA (EG Jwong, Mike Ross, Gootecks)
Team Japan (Air, Daigo, Mago)
Spiral Guys Fanclub (Jozhear, JSMaster, Killacam)
Salty Congee (Wilson Derek Sampson)

In Singles:
Winners: JSMaster Daigo Umehara, Mago, Mike Ross.
Losers: EG Justin Wong, Jozhear, Gootecks, Air.

Theres a thread on that http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168631 , but I guess this is better . Looks awesome so far
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
November 14 2010 18:52 GMT
#654
Oh shit my bad.
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
November 15 2010 22:53 GMT
#655
I was watching some of the games and wow! JS Master played really solid, Air is fucking legit (he looks daigoish when he plays ryu at his best) I expected my buddy Jozhear aka Jamie to do a little better.... cant believe how easy air lost to mike ross...

P.S How many floors does the Calgary Tower have? That video on youtube of the adventures of gootecks and mike when they are on the top of the building and the floor is glass is so scary holly cow, really cool too though... how tall or how many floors ?
w/e
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
November 15 2010 23:34 GMT
#656


heh some of these are really lol. my personal favorite is the balrog TAP mirror ^^
Forever Young
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
November 16 2010 18:25 GMT
#657


Poongko trolling
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 17 2010 00:41 GMT
#658
Man I really wanna get a arcade stick and play ssf4
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
HyperLimen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
November 17 2010 03:16 GMT
#659
On November 17 2010 09:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Man I really wanna get a arcade stick and play ssf4


Yeah I randomly came across the stream of the Canada Cup while it was going on live and watched the Canada vrs Daigo and the other exhibitions as well as the tourney.

Got flooded with nostalgia and really wanted to try ssfiv out, so today I got the tournament edition s stick and ssfiv. Been having a lot of fun even though I am completely terrible at the game lol.

Definitely love this game though.. can't wait to get a lot more in depth understanding of it.
TO THE BANK! - stephano
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
November 17 2010 03:22 GMT
#660
On November 17 2010 03:25 broz0rs wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I8jtkhqWsU

Poongko trolling


Ahh good ole Poongko, I beat him a couple times with pre-nerfed (Vanilla) Sagat. I also use to play him in CvS2 and Street Fighter 3 3rd strike all the time in Korea.

That guy was nasty/untouchable at CvS2. We were 50/50 though in 3rd strike.

good times good times...

Anyways back on subject: isn't it kind of funny that they are buffing Ryu? He's already considered the #1 most used character least last I heard. Got damn Daigo bandwagoners!!!
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
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