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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:31 Judicator wrote: Servo has it right, he said Pierce has never been huge and that's about right. Second tier/class sure, but not up there. He has it wrong, Pierce was definitely a superstar with a bad to mediocre team. Which nba player said "Paul Pierce is the truth"? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:31 Kazius wrote: f you watch closely enough, there hasn't been one play without fouls away from the ball, hacking on drives and so on. The refs can't call all of them (or else it would end up being a one on one game in the second quarter, with Williams and Powell going at it), so they have to call only ones that they find more offensive, and then there are things that are cumulative like flopping, complaining, trying to match numbers of fouls to both team to not appear biased, etc. The only way is an extra ref viewing the camera feeds... otherwise people will be rewarded for acting skills and knowing how to handle the refs. And this hasn't been happening for years? You don't get the rep of being a flopper by accident. | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
Anyway Artest is killing LA's offense -_- | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:35 igotmyown wrote: He has it wrong, Pierce was definitely a superstar with a bad to mediocre team. Which nba player said "Paul Pierce is the truth"? Hm, maybe his team was not great, but he couldn't get past the similarly mediocre Jason Kidd led Nets in the conference finals. | ||
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CSN
United States175 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:41 Servolisk wrote: Hm, maybe his team was not great, but he couldn't get past the similarly mediocre Jason Kidd led Nets in the conference finals. u talking about the nets that had kenyon, kidd and carter? | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:40 Jerubaal wrote: Bryant needs to stop jacking 3s. he's not entirely being detrimental. people think when he shoots a lot it's just him being selfish, it's all part of a game plan... Kobe realized that this game is really important so he's putting extra effort into making sure they win this game. his shots aren't going in , but a lot of them have been good shots. he's getting to his spots, they just aren't going in. you don't become a great scorer if you stop shooting whenever you are cold. | ||
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:46 CSN wrote: u talking about the nets that had kenyon, kidd and carter? I don't think he knows wtf he's talking about period. | ||
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x2fst
1272 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:48 Xeris wrote: he's not entirely being detrimental. people think when he shoots a lot it's just him being selfish, it's all part of a game plan... Kobe realized that this game is really important so he's putting extra effort into making sure they win this game. his shots aren't going in , but a lot of them have been good shots. he's getting to his spots, they just aren't going in. you don't become a great scorer if you stop shooting whenever you are cold. wat | ||
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MadVillain
United States402 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:48 Xeris wrote: he's not entirely being detrimental. people think when he shoots a lot it's just him being selfish, it's all part of a game plan... Kobe realized that this game is really important so he's putting extra effort into making sure they win this game. his shots aren't going in , but a lot of them have been good shots. he's getting to his spots, they just aren't going in. you don't become a great scorer if you stop shooting whenever you are cold. agreed. Kobe isn't just shooting wild he's actually putting up some absolute daggers. | ||
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:48 Xeris wrote: he's not entirely being detrimental. people think when he shoots a lot it's just him being selfish, it's all part of a game plan... Kobe realized that this game is really important so he's putting extra effort into making sure they win this game. his shots aren't going in , but a lot of them have been good shots. he's getting to his spots, they just aren't going in. you don't become a great scorer if you stop shooting whenever you are cold. I generally agree, but the last couple seemed out of rhythm. In any event, the Lakers are winning with their defense. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:41 Servolisk wrote: Hm, maybe his team was not great, but he couldn't get past the similarly mediocre Jason Kidd led Nets in the conference finals. That was the finals the Celtics came back from being down 40 points in the 4th. The Nets while not one of the great teams did take the Spurs to 7 one of those years. Paul Pierce, most points 2001-2002, 4th most points 3 years around that, which happen to be the Shaq/Iverson years, ppg 8th, 3rd, 5th, 5th, 6th. Career almost 20k points. Overall he's at least as good as Iverson, if not better if you these last few years. Maybe a bit worse than TMac/Vince in their prime, but a better career. | ||
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:52 igotmyown wrote: That was the finals the Celtics came back from being down 40 points in the 4th. The Nets while not one of the great teams did take the Spurs to 7 one of those years. Paul Pierce, most points 2001-2002, 4th most points 3 years around that, which happen to be the Shaq/Iverson years, ppg 8th, 3rd, 5th, 5th, 6th. Career almost 20k points. Overall he's at least as good as Iverson, if not better if you these last few years. Maybe a bit worse than TMac/Vince in their prime, but a better career. He's a leader, T-Mac and Carter are not. He's clutch, they're not. Sure, they are far more athletically gifted, but they never had the determination. Discussion over. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:51 Jerubaal wrote: I generally agree, but the last couple seemed out of rhythm. In any event, the Lakers are winning with their defense. Yea, obviously he forces some of his shots now and again. Think Jordan never did that? When he's in this mode, he senses the importance of the game so he feels more pressure to overperform and overcompensate that leads him to force some shots that he possibly shouldn't take. Overall though, it hasn't been entirely bad. I think the reffing has been generally shoddy on both sides. This game has been SO physical btw. And uh, no comments yet - but Bynum got injured. Unsure of how serious it is. TT~ | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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shmay
United States1091 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On June 09 2010 11:58 Xeris wrote: Yea, obviously he forces some of his shots now and again. Think Jordan never did that? When he's in this mode, he senses the importance of the game so he feels more pressure to overperform and overcompensate that leads him to force some shots that he possibly shouldn't take. Overall though, it hasn't been entirely bad. I think the reffing has been generally shoddy on both sides. This game has been SO physical btw. And uh, no comments yet - but Bynum got injured. Unsure of how serious it is. TT~ This game isn't even close to Orl-Bos physicality. | ||
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
Yeah about Rondo, why don't Doc tell him straight up to give up the shot at the end of the quarter, this keeps happening every game. Just let either Pierce or Allen do this, it seems so logical (or let Nate close like he did first quarter). | ||
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