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number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
March 26 2011 01:15 GMT
#1701
Anyone with Phoenix experience in here? I've been trying to work on some combos but I can't figure out how people are getting OTGs with her midair fireballs. Which fireball is it that OTGs, and what motion are they doing with the stick to execute it? I'm assuming it's a down to up forward, and as soon as her feet leave the ground hitting the button for the fireball? Kinda like the way you'd roll a dragon punch motion to up forward in order to do an IAT with Dhalsim in ssf4?
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Black0ut
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States75 Posts
March 26 2011 01:29 GMT
#1702
Tiger-kneeing the command (as in, down to upforward, the thing your describing) works, but so does just jumping and doing the command fast (since knockdowns last for so long).

And you use the medium version of the fireball to od it. If you want to combo into super, do the super before the fireball hits.
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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
March 26 2011 01:34 GMT
#1703
Air L/M fireballs otg, and yeah you can TK it.
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
March 26 2011 05:06 GMT
#1704
On March 26 2011 08:57 StallingHard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 07:41 Kingkosi wrote:
Ahhh man there's two tournaments next week and I really want to do well so I can be considered one of the top guys in MvsC3 here in Vegas. I have a lot of time from now until next friday to practice. I was wondering though if anyone had any good tips for training so I can gear up for these bad boys?


Link to these? They're in Vegas?

http://shoryuken.com/f7/palomino-urban-nights-12-las-vegas-nv-4-2-11-a-269141/

Sorry it took so long to provide I juts got off work.
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zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
March 26 2011 05:28 GMT
#1705
yo how many times can you OTG? pretty sure this whesker was OTGing me couple of times in a row. coolgame
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
March 26 2011 05:32 GMT
#1706
On March 26 2011 14:28 zizou21 wrote:
yo how many times can you OTG? pretty sure this whesker was OTGing me couple of times in a row. coolgame


wesker drives me crazy haha
It is what it is
StallingHard
Profile Joined February 2011
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 05:34:08
March 26 2011 05:33 GMT
#1707
On March 26 2011 14:28 zizou21 wrote:
yo how many times can you OTG? pretty sure this whesker was OTGing me couple of times in a row. coolgame


Get better.

You can only be OTG once by Wesker. Your reaction time just isn't fast enough, or he's calling an assist. In mvc3 the hit-stun gets smaller after every connection. So it's possible that he's calling an assist in to allow him to OTG you again afterwards, but you really can't be 100-0 in this game unless you're someone like Phoenix in which case it's your own fault for having her on point (and not being able to stay out of danger like that)

What's the skill level like in Vegas? I've been playing for a month or so now and I'm beasting all the kids at a hookah lounge I play at with friends.

Edit: Usually after a single OTG combo you can roll out of anything or at least block, but wesker is a hero that's VERY hard to deal with b/c the second you finish that roll if you're not blocking he can jump behind you and start the whole process over again.
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
March 26 2011 06:19 GMT
#1708
I'm sorry if this has been discussed earlier and I don't mean to incite anything but a one word answer,

but will MvC2 fade into obscurity because of the release?
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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
March 26 2011 07:24 GMT
#1709
i just bought mvc3

i have a couple questions,

i haven't played online yet but is the lag bad?

what's the best way to get started, i just read through the shoryuken wiki and i'm almost done most of the mechanics. any things i really need to learn that will improve me drastically?

pad or controller? i jacked my bro's pad and i see most people using it.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 08:02:21
March 26 2011 07:58 GMT
#1710
On March 26 2011 14:33 StallingHard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 14:28 zizou21 wrote:
yo how many times can you OTG? pretty sure this whesker was OTGing me couple of times in a row. coolgame


Get better.

You can only be OTG once by Wesker. Your reaction time just isn't fast enough, or he's calling an assist. In mvc3 the hit-stun gets smaller after every connection. So it's possible that he's calling an assist in to allow him to OTG you again afterwards, but you really can't be 100-0 in this game unless you're someone like Phoenix in which case it's your own fault for having her on point (and not being able to stay out of danger like that)

What's the skill level like in Vegas? I've been playing for a month or so now and I'm beasting all the kids at a hookah lounge I play at with friends.

Edit: Usually after a single OTG combo you can roll out of anything or at least block, but wesker is a hero that's VERY hard to deal with b/c the second you finish that roll if you're not blocking he can jump behind you and start the whole process over again.


No, he can definitely OTG as many times in a combo as he can think of ways to fight the hitstun degradation. Assists like Chun can extend it, Xfactoring can extend it, the right combos let you do it twice on his own, etc etc.

there's no 1 otg rule like mvc2.

For the record you can absolutely be 100-0'd in this game, very easily and without xfactor. Between unscaled level 3's and damage resetting dhc's, you probably ought to have some kill combos on your squad somewhere.

@shawster, learn your characters bnbs. Being able to hit your damage when the opportunity presents itself makes fighting games easier to learn (and a lot more fun!). Dont need anything fancy, but just a basic combo maybe into a super that you can do almost every time. And remember that while it is a fighting game, running away, spacing, and blocking is just as important as rushing in at people. Use whatever input method is most comfortable for you, that's where you'll find the most success.
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
March 26 2011 10:51 GMT
#1711
The 1 otg rule as far as I know is flawed in MvC2. but the second and preceeding OTG's need to hit in a very very small frame window (Concept behind Mag's slide infinite, I remember magnetro discussiong this before). there was a big argument about this at one forum, I didn't really particiapte in it even though I believed the 1 otg rule. Then the dude asked magnetro and magnetro said otherwise (included a screen shot of magnetro's reply too.)

I'm going to have to take magnetro's word on it =\ but aside from Magneto's slide infinite, I don't think its that practical anyway, otherwise we'd be doing it a lot more

and MvC2 will never die. NEVER
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Stane
Profile Joined April 2010
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 17:10:37
March 29 2011 17:09 GMT
#1712
Hey guys, a few questions.

Does anyone else have really bad connections to every game they're not hosting on XBL? (not extremely bad, but fps goes down to like 20 or 10 and every combo has to be pulled off slower). ((edit: I'm on a nice university connection so I shouldn't have a crap connection))

How do you deal with wolverine as zero?

How do you deal with Tron's "Gustav Fire/Flame(?)". I was owning all of my friends pretty relentlessly until someone found out how long her invincibility is with this assist. He's pretty intelligent at using it, so I can't just time it anymore and rape her with Dante's ranged hyper.

Last question, does anyone else have problems with she-hulk doing the zig hyper instead of the quarter-circle-forward hyper even after the input at the bottom of the screen is correct? (down down S, towards, X, quarter-circle-forward MH = "How bout a nice hug? *raaage*" I know it's a good option to use, but you have to time it way later, so I can't just hope that the right one will work as neither of them will connect if I time it for the opposite.

Thanks guys, will be checking thread back. I wish TL could notify me or something...probably can.
vakiha
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada20 Posts
March 29 2011 17:22 GMT
#1713
On March 30 2011 02:09 Stane wrote:
How do you deal with Tron's "Gustav Fire/Flame(?)". I was owning all of my friends pretty relentlessly until someone found out how long her invincibility is with this assist. He's pretty intelligent at using it, so I can't just time it anymore and rape her with Dante's ranged hyper.


I think I read Tron has a vulnerable low hitbox when she's doing the flames, but it's really hard to find the opportunity up close. Either punish it from fullscreen with a hyper, punish her with an even more invincible assist (Haggar), or snap her in and deal with her on point.
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
March 29 2011 17:24 GMT
#1714
On March 30 2011 02:09 Stane wrote:
How do you deal with Tron's "Gustav Fire/Flame(?)". I was owning all of my friends pretty relentlessly until someone found out how long her invincibility is with this assist. He's pretty intelligent at using it, so I can't just time it anymore and rape her with Dante's ranged hyper.


In all the VODs I've seen, I've only seen someone actually land an normal attack on Tron during Gustav Flame assist once. The character was somehow behind Tron when the assist came, so she got hit from behind. I think it was an X-23 that Talon Attacked horizontally and landed behind Tron almost at the same instance she came out. Other than that, if you anticipate the assist you can punish with a beam Hyper, but so far I've never seen someone hit Tron from the front.

Can't hit her low, can't jump over it and hit her with an overhead.
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Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
March 29 2011 18:43 GMT
#1715
to avoid getting the wrong supers between qcf / dp motions, I usually do half circles for the qcf motion. These new games really want to give you DPs though, so gotta be extra precise. I've even had a DP super to come out if I do 2 hcb motions in a row. ez inputs =[[
Zeroes
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
March 29 2011 18:53 GMT
#1716
On March 30 2011 03:43 Trumpet wrote:
to avoid getting the wrong supers between qcf / dp motions, I usually do half circles for the qcf motion. These new games really want to give you DPs though, so gotta be extra precise. I've even had a DP super to come out if I do 2 hcb motions in a row. ez inputs =[[


I use to do that too but then realized that you can't use half circle motion to do combos
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Fryght
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands254 Posts
March 29 2011 19:06 GMT
#1717
Man, the final mission combo's are really frigging long, lol :D

Think I'll settle for a Tron / She-Hulk / Doom team. Any thoughts?
HansMoleman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
March 30 2011 04:05 GMT
#1718
ROFL watching the 8 way stream, and Noel Brown just got in a fight live on stream HAHAHAHAHA
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 04:20:20
March 30 2011 04:16 GMT
#1719
On March 30 2011 13:05 HansMoleman wrote:
ROFL watching the 8 way stream, and Noel Brown just got in a fight live on stream HAHAHAHAHA
ITS MAHVL BABY!


yeah I kind of saw it transpire while waiting for SotG to start up

no idea how or why it happened since I wasn't really paying attention, but all I could really think of was "don't fuck up the arcade stick" that was on the ground while people were trying to break up the fight
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HansMoleman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
March 30 2011 04:18 GMT
#1720
Lol yeah, the casters said he lost his tourny game, then BOOM headshot. Salty.
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