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Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
March 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#1681
Do you guys post Miles923 Videos?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Miles923

Here is his youtube account. He does great MVC3 videos.
aruno, arunoaj, aruno_aj | Those are my main aliases
perfectchaoss
Profile Joined January 2011
United States30 Posts
March 23 2011 00:11 GMT
#1682
On March 23 2011 08:53 Zlasher wrote:
Lol, believe it or not, if you're having problems with latency, more often times than not that is YOUR fault. You said yourself you live in hawaii, guess how long it takes for stuff to travel from hawaii to even the west coast, let alone if you match up against east coast players.


Yah, i know, trade off of living in paradise right... Sc2 is laggy as sh1t here too, but at least its playable... It seems strange as there is more going on in starcraft than in MvC3, i guess its a super fast game though...
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 03:03:22
March 23 2011 02:54 GMT
#1683
On March 23 2011 09:11 perfectchaoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:53 Zlasher wrote:
Lol, believe it or not, if you're having problems with latency, more often times than not that is YOUR fault. You said yourself you live in hawaii, guess how long it takes for stuff to travel from hawaii to even the west coast, let alone if you match up against east coast players.


Yah, i know, trade off of living in paradise right... Sc2 is laggy as sh1t here too, but at least its playable... It seems strange as there is more going on in starcraft than in MvC3, i guess its a super fast game though...


Well, mvc3 is part at fault here. The netcode for it is amazingly bad, so bad that even within state most people I know try to avoid playing online.

The other half of it is that lag in starcraft doesn't matter much until you're at a very high level, and even then it's not that bad. If you had an sc2 match where your inputs are all delayed by 1/6th of a second, you'd probably never notice. But in a fighter, that's 10 frames, which is a HUGE amount of time. That means you'd have to be blocking the correct direction for a crossup or an overhead 10 frames before it happened, and most overheads aren't more than 15-20 frames, with many being even less. It also makes comboing stupidly hard because your eyes are essentially giving you false info.
perfectchaoss
Profile Joined January 2011
United States30 Posts
March 23 2011 18:50 GMT
#1684
On March 23 2011 11:54 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 09:11 perfectchaoss wrote:
On March 23 2011 08:53 Zlasher wrote:
Lol, believe it or not, if you're having problems with latency, more often times than not that is YOUR fault. You said yourself you live in hawaii, guess how long it takes for stuff to travel from hawaii to even the west coast, let alone if you match up against east coast players.


Yah, i know, trade off of living in paradise right... Sc2 is laggy as sh1t here too, but at least its playable... It seems strange as there is more going on in starcraft than in MvC3, i guess its a super fast game though...


Well, mvc3 is part at fault here. The netcode for it is amazingly bad, so bad that even within state most people I know try to avoid playing online.

The other half of it is that lag in starcraft doesn't matter much until you're at a very high level, and even then it's not that bad. If you had an sc2 match where your inputs are all delayed by 1/6th of a second, you'd probably never notice. But in a fighter, that's 10 frames, which is a HUGE amount of time. That means you'd have to be blocking the correct direction for a crossup or an overhead 10 frames before it happened, and most overheads aren't more than 15-20 frames, with many being even less. It also makes comboing stupidly hard because your eyes are essentially giving you false info.



Yah, i figured, thanks for the response... I pinged last night and was consistently getting 190 - 200 at this new place i am living. Gonna call my ISP to see if i can upgrade my service somehow.
vakiha
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada20 Posts
March 23 2011 19:05 GMT
#1685
On March 23 2011 06:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
charge moves are easy, you hold the direction it tells you to (Back or down) for a while (1-2 seconds in every game, figure it out), then hit forward (or up, as it may be) and an attack button. make sure you hit the button when you're actually at forward or up, not while you're moving the joystick. just takes some practice.

chun doesnt have any charge moves in mvc3 i dont think


Spinning bird kick is charge ^^
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 23 2011 20:23 GMT
#1686
On March 24 2011 04:05 vakiha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 06:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
charge moves are easy, you hold the direction it tells you to (Back or down) for a while (1-2 seconds in every game, figure it out), then hit forward (or up, as it may be) and an attack button. make sure you hit the button when you're actually at forward or up, not while you're moving the joystick. just takes some practice.

chun doesnt have any charge moves in mvc3 i dont think


Spinning bird kick is charge ^^


oh yeah, it is! i only ever do that move by accident hahaha

i know how to control the height she does it at though, you can still activate the move after leaving the ground

anyway chun is a monster in lvl 3 xfactor just fyi
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 23 2011 21:40 GMT
#1687
On March 24 2011 05:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 04:05 vakiha wrote:
On March 23 2011 06:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
charge moves are easy, you hold the direction it tells you to (Back or down) for a while (1-2 seconds in every game, figure it out), then hit forward (or up, as it may be) and an attack button. make sure you hit the button when you're actually at forward or up, not while you're moving the joystick. just takes some practice.

chun doesnt have any charge moves in mvc3 i dont think


Spinning bird kick is charge ^^


oh yeah, it is! i only ever do that move by accident hahaha

i know how to control the height she does it at though, you can still activate the move after leaving the ground

anyway chun is a monster in lvl 3 xfactor just fyi


Everyone is a monster in level 3 xfactor
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 21:56:47
March 23 2011 21:56 GMT
#1688
Man, I'm really not liking this sentinel nerf =( I mean, I don't really think he is that good to warrant a nerf like that, I think there could have been better ways to balance him. I mean, that's like +35% of his HP or some shit? its terrifying to use his assist now..

But more importantly, can something be done about Phoenix?
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
HansMoleman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
March 24 2011 03:40 GMT
#1689
Watching WNF, James Chen is greater than, or equal to, the man.
"Knowledge is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learn from schooling" -Albert Einstien
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
March 24 2011 04:18 GMT
#1690
On March 24 2011 06:40 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 05:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On March 24 2011 04:05 vakiha wrote:
On March 23 2011 06:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
charge moves are easy, you hold the direction it tells you to (Back or down) for a while (1-2 seconds in every game, figure it out), then hit forward (or up, as it may be) and an attack button. make sure you hit the button when you're actually at forward or up, not while you're moving the joystick. just takes some practice.

chun doesnt have any charge moves in mvc3 i dont think


Spinning bird kick is charge ^^


oh yeah, it is! i only ever do that move by accident hahaha

i know how to control the height she does it at though, you can still activate the move after leaving the ground

anyway chun is a monster in lvl 3 xfactor just fyi


Everyone is a monster in level 3 xfactor

even arthur, because when your golden armor projectiles deal as much chip damage as most characters supers do when not blocked you have a crazy character. + his speed becomes acceptable.
Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 04:45:33
March 24 2011 04:39 GMT
#1691
Press X to punch a boulder.

[image loading]
Contact me via the following: Twitter: @notginseng | Discord: Ginseng#9638
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
March 24 2011 05:40 GMT
#1692
Anyone else watching the Wednesday Night Fights stream? Entertaining stuff.

http://www.justin.tv/offcast#/w/999870480/2
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polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 07:30:01
March 24 2011 07:07 GMT
#1693
Its like a replay of last week. Still good though!
Leee Jaee Doong
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
March 24 2011 08:02 GMT
#1694
Someone should Photoshop the "Sentinel vs Sentinel 3" picture to show angry nerd tears.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 24 2011 08:21 GMT
#1695
Could you imagine if they nerfed a unit by like 35% life in starcraft? lol...

ZERGLINGS ARE NOW 20 LIFE

or...

PLANETARY FORTRESS NOW HAS 1050 HP AND 2 ARMOR.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
March 24 2011 08:37 GMT
#1696
god, I thought I was the only one who has trouble with online play and MvC3. My NAT is open and every game except this one is smooth to play. For some reason the button lag is atrocious but on MvC2 everything is fine, I hate it

I don't really have any one that I personally know in the bay area to play with.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 09:43:56
March 24 2011 09:33 GMT
#1697
On March 24 2011 17:21 Zlasher wrote:
Could you imagine if they nerfed a unit by like 35% life in starcraft? lol...

ZERGLINGS ARE NOW 20 LIFE

or...

PLANETARY FORTRESS NOW HAS 1050 HP AND 2 ARMOR.


Imagine the SCV having 45 HP. Or the Reaper having a 45-second build time. Or the Roach taking up 2 popcap.

The horrors of patching.

Don't know if the reduction is overboard...not enough time to judge. But it's nice to see Sentinels dying like flies on WNF.
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
March 25 2011 22:41 GMT
#1698
Ahhh man there's two tournaments next week and I really want to do well so I can be considered one of the top guys in MvsC3 here in Vegas. I have a lot of time from now until next friday to practice. I was wondering though if anyone had any good tips for training so I can gear up for these bad boys?
Twitter: @KingKosi
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 23:58:12
March 25 2011 23:55 GMT
#1699
On March 24 2011 18:33 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 17:21 Zlasher wrote:
Could you imagine if they nerfed a unit by like 35% life in starcraft? lol...

ZERGLINGS ARE NOW 20 LIFE

or...

PLANETARY FORTRESS NOW HAS 1050 HP AND 2 ARMOR.


Imagine the SCV having 45 HP. Or the Reaper having a 45-second build time. Or the Roach taking up 2 popcap.

The horrors of patching.

Don't know if the reduction is overboard...not enough time to judge. But it's nice to see Sentinels dying like flies on WNF.


errr, only the reaper change happened once the game actually went live. And the reaper one happened because

And this part is important!

because terrans were showing in tournaments that they could consistently open 5rax reaper on every map every game in TvZ and always either win or be at an advantage because of it. The culmination, ofc, being the IEM tournament, where it got abused all the way through grand finals.

There has been no such Sentinel domination. Or even Sentinel tournament wins.

And then, the patch didn't even address the real problem. It's similar to if they had changed the reaper hp instead of the speed upgrade and build time. It'd have lower hp but would still abuse the hell out of zergs just the same.

Starting to use wolverine more now. Wolv + Chun is a sick combo, but I can't seem to fit a good middle character in there too well. I've been trying Storm for the DHC glitch, but it doesn't seem to work all too well in practice. Also using CapA there, but he's got almost no synergy going, just himself being a baller

@Kosi, just don't make the mistake a lot of people make and spend all your time in training mode. Even laggy online matches will help more than just training mode time by a noticeable amount. The more matches you can get in between now and tourney the better. Even bad players can teach you how to avoid being randomed out by stupidity! Great example of that is Codylicious just mashing on akuma super vs floe on WNF. And floe getting hit by it because he wasn't used to someone being that... dumb about it lol.
StallingHard
Profile Joined February 2011
144 Posts
March 25 2011 23:57 GMT
#1700
On March 26 2011 07:41 Kingkosi wrote:
Ahhh man there's two tournaments next week and I really want to do well so I can be considered one of the top guys in MvsC3 here in Vegas. I have a lot of time from now until next friday to practice. I was wondering though if anyone had any good tips for training so I can gear up for these bad boys?


Link to these? They're in Vegas?
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