On March 05 2011 19:30 Irrelevant wrote: I would love to see someone try and compete with a standard PS3/Xbox controller, I just don't see how anyone could pull it off.
It's like playing GT5 without a wheel, it's possible to a point.
I don't know why people keep posting shit like this. It's so wrong it hurts.
Winter Brawl SF4 finals was a pad player vs a pad player. Fanatic, one of the top (and most notorious) mvc2 players uses a ps2 pad to play. And he played in a $45,000 money match (which he won!).
Most these guys (Fanatic, Wolfkrone) can play on an arcade stick but stick to the pad out of preference. One plays MvC2 MSP, the other plays C.Viper in SF4. If that shit's possible on pad, what isn't?
For the guy curious about buying sticks: wait until Final Round (not this weekend but the next) and there will be a discount from MadCatz. You should buy a TE if you want a stick because it's absolutely fantastic quality for a reasonable price (it will run you $75-$100 each depending on what kind of discounts they run during Final Round). But there is no pressure at all to buy a stick if you're new to the game. Especially for someone not used to the arcade setup, there's no reason to rush to buy one.
I'm still shuffling through characters to use as a 3rd for sent/storm =[ If only they'd just add CapCommando or Cyclops as DLC my life would be so much simpler!
I've been playing this game a few hours a week on my friend's PS3. He doesn't have a stick so I'm forced to play with pad.
What is the best button layout for pad? Should I be playing with the pad or the 'joystick' on the controller? The pad hurts my hand after extended periods of time and I find it harder to do QCF and Dragon Punches.
On March 05 2011 20:34 Trumpet wrote: I'm still shuffling through characters to use as a 3rd for sent/storm =[ If only they'd just add CapCommando or Cyclops as DLC my life would be so much simpler!
Isn't one of Dante's assists pretty much like CapCom's assist? The guitar one I think.
On March 05 2011 20:34 Trumpet wrote: I'm still shuffling through characters to use as a 3rd for sent/storm =[ If only they'd just add CapCommando or Cyclops as DLC my life would be so much simpler!
Isn't one of Dante's assists pretty much like CapCom's assist? The guitar one I think.
Captian Coridor (or however you spell it) has nothing that is exactly equivalent but the guitar assist is similar the range just isnt as big i think
On March 05 2011 20:34 Trumpet wrote: I'm still shuffling through characters to use as a 3rd for sent/storm =[ If only they'd just add CapCommando or Cyclops as DLC my life would be so much simpler!
Isn't one of Dante's assists pretty much like CapCom's assist? The guitar one I think.
Captian Coridor (or however you spell it) has nothing that is exactly equivalent but the guitar assist is similar the range just isnt as big i think
tbh a better comparison of dante's jam session assist would be a non-tracking Blackheart AA/dark thunder assist
isn't viper a capcom :p burnkick/captain kick, corridor/siesmo hammer, and his eletricity throw= viper's throw. there ya go
On March 05 2011 19:30 Irrelevant wrote: I would love to see someone try and compete with a standard PS3/Xbox controller, I just don't see how anyone could pull it off.
It's like playing GT5 without a wheel, it's possible to a point.
what ?the execution is so easy in this game lol? there is nothing hard about execution in this game
On March 05 2011 19:30 Irrelevant wrote: I would love to see someone try and compete with a standard PS3/Xbox controller, I just don't see how anyone could pull it off.
It's like playing GT5 without a wheel, it's possible to a point.
I don't know why people keep posting shit like this. It's so wrong it hurts.
Winter Brawl SF4 finals was a pad player vs a pad player. Fanatic, one of the top (and most notorious) mvc2 players uses a ps2 pad to play. And he played in a $45,000 money match (which he won!).
Most these guys (Fanatic, Wolfkrone) can play on an arcade stick but stick to the pad out of preference. One plays MvC2 MSP, the other plays C.Viper in SF4. If that shit's possible on pad, what isn't?
For the guy curious about buying sticks: wait until Final Round (not this weekend but the next) and there will be a discount from MadCatz. You should buy a TE if you want a stick because it's absolutely fantastic quality for a reasonable price (it will run you $75-$100 each depending on what kind of discounts they run during Final Round). But there is no pressure at all to buy a stick if you're new to the game. Especially for someone not used to the arcade setup, there's no reason to rush to buy one.
I'm still shuffling through characters to use as a 3rd for sent/storm =[ If only they'd just add CapCommando or Cyclops as DLC my life would be so much simpler!
Well there's actually a difference between the Gamepads those users use and standard controllers tho I agree with you that for certain players it doens't make a difference.
It would be seriously difficult to play with a normal 360 controller at that level of competitiveness. Oh well everyone has his/her preferences.
I can do dp's all day left and right on ps2 controller (good old days of cvs2), i imagine i can do it the same on a ps3, i use the tiny analog stick it's not that hard. Only reason why i learned stick was to play at arcades.
This video is for all the pad haters, while it is SSF4 and not MvC the concept is the same. In all honesty MvC3 is a relatively execution light game and is very lax on timings.
On March 05 2011 19:30 Irrelevant wrote: I would love to see someone try and compete with a standard PS3/Xbox controller, I just don't see how anyone could pull it off.
It's like playing GT5 without a wheel, it's possible to a point.
Suck on it.
And oh, Wolfkrone made it to semifinals evo 2010 with a pad lol.
Lol @ people saying pad is just as good with the argument of a select 2 or 3 pros who use them. There's a reason only 2 or 3 out of 50+ pros. Yes it's possible, but the numbers do not lie, stick is generally just better.
On March 06 2011 05:52 HansMoleman wrote: Lol @ people saying pad is just as good with the argument of a select 2 or 3 pros who use them. There's a reason only 2 or 3 out of 50+ pros. Yes it's possible, but the numbers do not lie, stick is generally just better.
When you don't know what you're talking about, don't lol @ people.
Why do most people use arcade sticks? Because they learned to play in arcades!
If we all learned on consoles like many people do now, it'd be all pad players. But for the past 15 years up to 2009, most fighters were played in arcades. Therefore, very few people learned to play a pad since it was a waste of time.
Next you'll tell us that the old, giant, circle gated P.O.S. MAS sticks that old mvc2 players use are obviously the best controller since they all used em. They're fuckin horrible sticks, but it was one of only 2 available sticks on Dreamcast.
Fucking fuck yall, there's no win button on a stick, really. Not even a marginal advantage button. It's solely a preference.
I don't think it's as much of the 4 button dpad vs the actual movement of the stick as much as it is the button layout (specifically shoulder buttons) and how much better it is to have the 3x2 or 4x2 arcade style buttons
my main team I've been playing with is wolverine/mag/akuma, want to build a team around DeadPool but I haven't figured out who i want as my two assists. any ideas?
pad isn't better or worse, the difference is you can go to an arcade and play on a stick, so you can't play AE on a pad right now, and thats how all fighting games used to be, they spawned from arcade cabs not DLC on your xbox.
I'm terrible at fighting games. But the only really serious complaint I have about using a standard game pad is that it introduces something of an asymmetry in my play. My left thumb is pretty uncomfortable in the straight left position (on the left thumb stick), and I'm super slow doing a quarter-circle from down to left. So if I'm playing a character that uses a lot of qcf moves I always have a hard time playing from the player 2 position, and if I need to do a lot of qcb moves I suck as player 1. I do have stupidly small hands though.
On March 06 2011 05:52 HansMoleman wrote: Lol @ people saying pad is just as good with the argument of a select 2 or 3 pros who use them. There's a reason only 2 or 3 out of 50+ pros. Yes it's possible, but the numbers do not lie, stick is generally just better.
When you don't know what you're talking about, don't lol @ people.
Why do most people use arcade sticks? Because they learned to play in arcades!
If we all learned on consoles like many people do now, it'd be all pad players. But for the past 15 years up to 2009, most fighters were played in arcades. Therefore, very few people learned to play a pad since it was a waste of time.
Next you'll tell us that the old, giant, circle gated P.O.S. MAS sticks that old mvc2 players use are obviously the best controller since they all used em. They're fuckin horrible sticks, but it was one of only 2 available sticks on Dreamcast.
Fucking fuck yall, there's no win button on a stick, really. Not even a marginal advantage button. It's solely a preference.
It is a preference, but a preference that people, generally, have shown to perform better on. Not all current stick players are from the arcade era and even during the arcade era most fighters were available on some kind of console where practicing would've been easier on a pad because of convenience/cost.
I can't speak for everyone, but I played all fighters on pads before because I couldn't afford a stick. Now all my friends have sticks so I use them and for me, it's honestly relative to playing fps on a pad compared to playing fps with a mouse + keyboard - everything is just easier to execute and feels more comfortable.
Back on topic, this game makes me miss mvc2 and a couple of the mvc2 characters, especially strider. I know there's similar characters, but it's just not the same. Still really fun though.
On March 06 2011 06:46 ZlaSHeR wrote: pad isn't better or worse, the difference is you can go to an arcade and play on a stick, so you can't play AE on a pad right now, and thats how all fighting games used to be, they spawned from arcade cabs not DLC on your xbox.
woah really? my arcade has ps2 ports for the AE machines for the pad players (its on an old vanilla cabinet with the AE harddrive). maybe its just my arcade but i would assume other places could do the same easily.:/
anyway this discussion reminded me when i went to a LAN at my friend's house literally 2 days after MVC3 dropped. it was mainly the xbox FPS (halo3/gow2/cod) with brawl and at that night mvc3. i didn't bring mys tick along so me and him both played on 360 pads and shit man. i commend anybody who can do ANYTHING on the 360 pad. at least the ps3 pad is somewhat feasible usable for me.
basically its all preference. u don't become a demi-god just cuz u switch over to switch stick, and its not like mvc3 punishes u for using pad (isn't HGT and other shit ALWAYS work on pad players cuz it's literally impossible to mash out or something? i remember seeing a random zachd mvc2 match video from SBR and they talked about how fanatiq is free to HGT)
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