EPT[Mahjong]Tenhou Thread - Page 19
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Shymon
United States620 Posts
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Rhaegar99
Australia1190 Posts
Last round of the game. Playing defensively and some luck somehow got me a hand that allowed me to snatch second place! | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On June 02 2013 18:02 spinesheath wrote: Yeah, but it's hard finding a good Japanese source online when you're still having a hard time with the language. I can't just skim over a site and see if it's worth reading  I don't know a ton about it, but I think Fukuchi Makoto is a pretty well-respected mahjong writer in Japan. Or if you're interested in a manga, there's one called Obaka Miko (not even unofficially translated, sadly) that's supposed to have some actually solid mahjong advice. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
http://www.osamuko.com/basic-defense-techniques-in-mahjong/ | ||
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Rhaegar99
Australia1190 Posts
Played a game where a nondealer won off someones discard off the first round. Apparently its not counted as a yakuman, so your better off passing the ron and double riichi when it gets to your turn. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8EULtfX.png) | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
Tenhou if you are dealer, Chiihou if you are nondealer | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
That's weird. Just a week or so ago I was going through the Tenhou Client "disassembly" to get the mapping of yaku to integers used in the replay format and found: 36 renhou 人和 I was surprised, as I had thought that Tenhou didn't support Renhou. But obviously I didn't really have a way to find out. Guess now I can be certain, and the yaku is only in the list for completeness/some random nonsense. Thanks. Also it seems I have to install the Chinese IME to be able to type out these yaku names... Japanese IME doesn't find what I want it to. Double Riichi is not the only thing you can get, you still have a chance to score a Chiihou if you pass the Ron  I feel sorry for that guy, at least if he thought he had a yakuman right there... | ||
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Rhaegar99
Australia1190 Posts
In other news, I somehow managed to pull off a yakuman at a crucial moment! + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZWrz4hq.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/M0wwtBW.png) | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
Clutch Yakuman | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On June 25 2013 08:42 Zozma wrote: I don't know a ton about it, but I think Fukuchi Makoto is a pretty well-respected mahjong writer in Japan. Or if you're interested in a manga, there's one called Obaka Miko (not even unofficially translated, sadly) that's supposed to have some actually solid mahjong advice. Is this what serious books look like in Japan? Books by Fukuchi Makoto on amazon.co.jp Also, those books are like 600 Yen each, thats ~5 EUR. Unless the literature market is upside down in Japan I can't expect much from those. | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On June 25 2013 23:14 spinesheath wrote: From what I understand, Fukuchi Makoto and Hisato Sasaki are the two people who have actually managed to make a living playing high-stakes mahjong games (aka gambling). And I don't think it's that weird for backlist titles from a few years ago to be for sale cheap on Amazon...Is this what serious books look like in Japan? Books by Fukuchi Makoto on amazon.co.jp Also, those books are like 600 Yen each, thats ~5 EUR. Unless the literature market is upside down in Japan I can't expect much from those. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
I only need the replay link. Alternatively any of the formats where the replay link is contained like tenhou's backup format which you can find in the menu: メニュー (menu) 牌譜の管理 (replays) バックアップ (backup tab) Interesting replays are those where rare things happen, like any yakuman, things like 4 kans (or even better 5!), quad riichi, nagashi mangan, very long games (can tenhou games extend into the North round?), end game ties and so on. Generally, the more replays I can get my hands on the better. If it doesn't show me any bugs, no harm is done. | ||
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Rhaegar99
Australia1190 Posts
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D:Rhaegar(-20.0)http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2013070501gm-0029-0000-xe93e5dbf3245&tw=3 Here are the games in my backup tab. Been playing a lot recently thanks to the midyear break. There are probably 3 or 4 yakumans in there and maybe a nagashi mangan. Other than that, nothing too special as far as I can remember. I had a game ages back where we reached the end of west round. The game does not extend to the north round even if all players have points less than 30k. Normal placement and scoring is still use. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
3 or 4 yakuman in 40 games? I don't think I have even witnessed 4 yakumans during all my games on tenhou yet. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
Like 2 Daisangen, 1 wind thing, 2 kokushit and 3 Suuankou I want to see some of the rarer ones though, like tenhou or chuuren I got really close to chuuren once, but alas it wasn't meant to be | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 05 2013 14:28 JSH wrote: Think I saw a fair amount Like 2 Daisangen, 1 wind thing, 2 kokushit and 3 Suuankou I want to see some of the rarer ones though, like tenhou or chuuren I got really close to chuuren once, but alas it wasn't meant to be I was tenpai on Shousuushi Tsuuiisou (small 4 winds, all honors) once, as posted earlier in this thread. But hardly ever saw any finished yakumans. | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
EDIT:- I am wrong. Not entire same to SG/MY Mahjong. ^^ | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
From what I can gather about Singaporean/Malaysian Mahjong, it especially does not have Riichi, Dora and Furiten and as far as I can tell the scoring system is very different as well. Wikipedia even says it has flower and animal tiles. Now, a Yakuman in Japanese Mahjong is extremely rare. For example a Kokushi Musou (your Shi San Yao) is made in about 0.043% of games. One Tenhou (Tian Hu) in about 330,000 games. "pong pong hu" probably is the equivalent of Toitoihou, and is not a Yakuman but a Yaku. It's not rare at all (although usually not worth too much since it's usually open). | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On July 05 2013 16:14 spinesheath wrote: I'm pretty sure Japanese (Riichi) Mahjong is NOT the same as Singaporean Mahjong. From what I can gather about Singaporean/Malaysian Mahjong, it especially does not have Riichi, Dora and Furiten and as far as I can tell the scoring system is very different as well. Wikipedia even says it has flower and animal tiles. Now, a Yakuman in Japanese Mahjong is extremely rare. For example a Kokushi Musou (your Shi San Yao) is made in about 0.043% of games. One Tenhou (Tian Hu) in about 330,000 games. "pong pong hu" probably is the equivalent of Toitoihou, and is not a Yakuman but a Yaku. It's not rare at all (although usually not worth too much since it's usually open). Hmm your right. I thought it was about the same though, didn't realise there wasn't flower & animal tiles. | ||
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Rhaegar99
Australia1190 Posts
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