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On April 11 2012 22:21 Skilledblob wrote:
am I the only one who keeps Dragon tiles as long as it makes sense? I had so many games where I just threw the single dragons away at the start of the game and then still got 2 other dragon tiles for a Pon. So now I just keep them until two were discarded
Depends
I usually discards the Dragons because well, they are only worth 1 han, and you pretty much have to open up your hand with a pon
If I'm looking for a quick win because I'm dealer or perhaps I have a nice hand with dora or honitsu, then I might keep the dragons, but usually I discard them after non round/seat wind, and if someone discards one, then I almost always discard one.
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Thanks for fast replies!
You are right I might have become too comfortable playing offline...  It's true I'm usually not sure which way should I start building my hand, and many times I find myself jumping between goals which leads to complete mess at the end. I guess it takes practice. I'll take your advice and continue playing on tenhou ^^
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Well, I just discard them at the beginning because, eventually, later they can prove to be too risky to throw away.
@kdava: When I started playing Mahjong, I always went with the 5-second games(actually, I still do). Got used to it pretty fast and I'm sure you will adjust as well.
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On April 11 2012 22:21 Skilledblob wrote:
am I the only one who keeps Dragon tiles as long as it makes sense? I had so many games where I just threw the single dragons away at the start of the game and then still got 2 other dragon tiles for a Pon. So now I just keep them until two were discarded
Holding onto dragons until you see two get discarded is a major leak in your game IMO. When one tile comes out, the chances of you drawing one, and then Pon another is very low. Even if you do pick up your second tile, you have to consider the fact that the last tile can be anywhere in the wall including the dead wall, which can in some cases cause your hand to be drawing dead.
I usually hold on to my dragons as long as I can if noone has chucked one of the same tile but it is very dependent on my hand.
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zzz
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nice but why riichi lol
I still have yet to get a yakuman ;_;
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Ya usually it really doesn't matter too much but since west already threw the red dragon, riichi would decrease the chance for the other two players to discard the tile.
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Hey guys!
I keep playing on tenhou as you advised. What I don't get is the ranking system. First my points dropped to around 1320, then I started getting to 1st and 2nd place more, and now I have 8 kyu with 1389 points. If I get it right, you get one rank every 30 points? But this means one can get to like 5 dan with points under 1500 if they first drop down low enough (like 1000)? I don't see how points and ranks are connected, pls help me out I looked into that ranking system table, but don't really understand it.
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You can find the point system here. http://tenhou.net/man/
Look for the 8th white box section thing title 段級位制. The label for each column goes like: kyu/dan rank, starting points when you enter the rank, number of points you gain/lose for east only rounds, number of points you gain/lose for hanchan rounds, number of points required to rank up, number of people in the rank, and average Rate of the rank. You only lose points for coming last, but you wont be losing any until you reach 2kyu, and you wont be able to derank until you reach 1dan.
Unlike points, Rate is calculated based of your end position (1st,2nd,3rd,4th) and your opponents Rate. So Rate is a better indication of skill whereas rank... im not too sure but probably more about what your capable of? (it dosnt really matter in the kyu ranks though) In the later stages, there are Rate requirements to access certain leagues
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Oh thanks I get it. So I have 1397 RATE and not points I thought you have to gain rate to advance in rank, but now it's clear ^^
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First kazoe yakuman Ive seen.
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New month and stat reset! The month was very swingy for me. Fell to under R1800 a few times and almost got deranked a few times. Luckily I managed to claw myself back up to end the month on:
四段 845 / 1600pt R1843
I got into an interesting spot sometime ago and would like to share and maybe generate some discussion
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Note that this hand is the first round first game of a hanchan and the dora is east wind. I'd like to know what tile you would discard, why you discard that tile, and what you are trying to achieve with this hand (what you expect the end hand to look like / yakus).
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Going with my gut here (haven't played for awhile after I had disastrous setback and fail down to 2 dan), I'd just discard 5 sou pair and hope I can utilize the dora. Who needs yaku? So final product would either be wait on green dragon-east or 6 man (with possibility of improving it to two-way wait). Obviously it being higher dan lobby I suspect nobody will deal in the winning tile but I'd take the risk with it being early game and you not being the dealer.
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well based on the few discards that were made so far it does look like most people are stacking bamboos. Though this is a stretch because there are only few discards. I'd agree with Hesmyr and discard the 5 bamboo and then you'd have to wait for the 6 and a green dragon. That someone would discard an east wind when it's the dora is unlikely.
and that other hand .... 3 dora and SEVEN ura dora lol. Way to turn shit into gold haha
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Hey guys, I just hit 5dan after riding a massive heater. Lost like only one game in my last 20 or so games
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You guys pretty much touched on everything with the previous hand. 5s is the right tile to discard. Since east is a dora and one of the two remaining 5s are is also a dora, it is very unlikely that your opponents will discard those tiles. Because of this our only yaku will come from the green dragon. We will pon the green dragon and chi a 6m, and throwing out any tile that are not those tiles or the 4m.
This is a fairly simple hand to break down since we are already iishanten and we did not need to incorporate our opponents discards. You should however being doing something like this during every point of your hand. Plan ahead and balance your hand between your chance of winning and the fu/han of your hand. Decide whether you want to tanyao and open your hand well before your given that opportunity.
Playing efficiently and smart while not feeding is the way to go 1-3dan players
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I'd discard a 5 sou but I wouldn't be so gungho of cutting both pairs. If everybody else seems to be having trouble witht heir hand you can get greedy and go for a 5-6-7 sanshoku with hatsu or east wind set. An open hand there would give you mangan at the very least, with a very good chance for haneman. A closed hand is an easy baiman.
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By the way, when do accounts get deleted? Is it in general every account not used in the last X months...or only non-dan players, or something?
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do they get deleted at all?
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Yes, they do. I remember creating an account for the first time but forgot to save the password. So afterwards, I had to create another one. Anyway, some weeks ago, I tried again and it said the username is still available, so it sure got deleted.
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