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On January 25 2010 10:30 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 07:30 keit wrote:Completed game, clocked in at just above 20 hours. Some thoughts about the story + Show Spoiler +Ending was okayishhh, felt a bit too easy though, just the same old Collector enemies. Wanted to encounter some of those that you saw in the ship when you ran around with Joker during the attack. I mean after all it was their main ship but it felt like the same as when you first encountered them :/ The partner side missions felt a bit flat too, most of them were laid out in the same way too, go to planet, shoot some stuff, get a cutscene after which they become "loyal" to you. Even if it'd just been codex entries more information and backstory would have been so good. Kinda got too excited about going through the Omega 4 relay too, thought it'd be some real epic mindblowing shit inside the galactic core with the reapers and all... And in the end it turned out to be just more insect grunts to fight, and that skeletor end boss which was piss easy. The Illusive Man felt so weak too, I chose to blow up the Collector base and he was just like "okay" and that was it. All the encounters with him felt like he'd be some uber powerful boss kind of guy, but in the end he really had no control at all. I really hope they evolve him some more in ME3, it really felt like he was going to have another card up his sleeve but it fell flat in the end. All in all, felt like a getting a good movie turned off halfway through and having to wait two years to continue it. Kinda like how I felt after Mass Effect 1  I kind of agree with most of what you said + Show Spoiler +I can't say I didn't enjoy the game, but it wasn't as good as ME1. Instead of fixing things like the inventory and the mako, they just gutted those aspects entirely. That kind of pissed me off. The combat was better in general but I felt like they turned it into Gears of War more than they tried to refine the rpg elements
Story wise, you spend 80% of the time just picking up characters and not really progressing the story. This was probably the worst offender of all Bioware games when it comes to the "go to 3 places, then storyline, etc" progression. You don't have to ever work to develop the relationships with your teammates either. They just all tell you about their own little quest after a pre determined amount of time. Then they are suddenly "loyal"
Plot wise it seems like we are right back at where we were when ME1 ended because so little of the game actually dealt with the plot
The game is either designed with the intent of being fleshed out with tons and tons of DLC (theres virtually no guns/armor/interesting upgrades) or they are just going the complete opposite direction than what I liked about ME1. I don't even feel like I'm advancing my character on my own, I jump through their hoops in the guise of missions and I get a You Win screen telling me I leveled up, then it doesn't let me go back to the place.
Still worth playing. I liked ME1 more though.
These 2 posts basicly sum my own experience with ME2.
+ Show Spoiler +Since I've only completed ME1 recently, and ME2 came out soon after, I must say they cut pretty deep into character depth and specialization. Not having any loot in the game, but just 'researching' upgrades feels really lame, since most upgrades are just percentage boosts, and you really don't notice it since the game is more of a shooter now with massive battles.
I do enjoy the new powers, but classes like the adept feel very weird now since all abilities share cooldowns on a single character, I'm pretty sure they could have found a better mix between abilities and cooldowns, not as extreme as part 1 (~1min, overlap possible) or part 2 (~3-12 seconds, no everlapping).
Scanning planets minigame...
I felt so empty after visiting most shops and finding maybe 1-2 usefull things to purchase, and rest just beeing 1-2 random like a book or miniquest ingredient.
All in all, I'm not that big on shooters, I do enjoy them with enough character customization or power customization, but mostly only last for that long. Game is pretty enjoyable in it's own way, but I would rather have had a continuation and fixes from part 1, and more customization options not less. In the end I think the way it aimed for is to simplify it more for the console.
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I got it 2 days ago and have really enjoyed it, its certainly not perfect but it is very polished and the combat is very entertaining. I though ME1 was very boring, as I am more of a D2 kind of guy, but ME2 's action aspect is good enough for me to really like, even though I wish SOOOOO hard that they had put in more skills and randomized weapon drops. It would make this game actually amazing.
Disclaimer: I don't give 3 shits about story, its all gameplay for me, but the characters are very cool
D3 will rock
EDIT: I stole it
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Told you...
The thing I liked the most in ME 1 was the N7 t-shirt I got with my copy of the game.
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Well here's my reaction from reading some of the spoilers (haven't played the game yet, will be getting it after work today)
+ Show Spoiler +A lot of what I'm hearing bums me out. The lack of loot is especially disturbing to me. I really like loot! I'm not a huge shooter fan myself, so I don't know how I feel about ME2 being more shooter than RPG. I usually only pick up shooters once in a great while - like right now I play MW2, but it is the first COD game I've owned. I'm still willing to give it a try before judging it though. I feel like they should have fixed up some of the RPG elements that weren't quite there yet in ME1, instead of gutting them out. Oh well, I'm sure it will still be a fun game.
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I have to agree that the story is kind of rubbish, since it doesn't deal with the main enemy of the game, just their minions, who suddenly started abducting human colonies. It's like DAO, hurr durr the darkspawn suddenly appeared, now go and kill them.
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Just a quick question to those who've played already... is it necessary to thoroughly scan and probe all the planets for resources, assuming you want to get as many upgrades as possible for your final team (that is, skipping upgrades that don't affect your final team)? It's a hefty pain in the ass and I just want to know if I can just stop doing it at some point.
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I just finished it, using soldier imported from ME1.
The game is great, it's a good sequel, keeps the nice atmosphere from ME1.
EchOne, nah, you don't need to do all the upgrades. To be honest the upgrades don't really matter, ain't much of a difference. I didn't have the patience to do enough scanning for resources. + Show Spoiler + I didn't like the fact that it has too few missions (at least it seems so to me) especially those "unofficial" missions when you go scan planets, find anomalies, land and find something new... too few like per average only one planet per region (i did scout ALL planets in the game).
Too few things you can do on planets where you dock, too few things to buy in the stores (i would've loved to have way more fish types for my aquarium).
And what is with that sex scene between shepard and miranda? The sex scene between shepart and ash in ME1 was way better. They have a mature rating anyway so they could've at least made some damn decent sex scenes, i expected to see miranda get fucked ever since the game started, and all i get to see is her bra? That sucked. I mean, they made miranda look so damn awesome and all game made scenes focus on her great ass and tits and when you get to fuck her, she doesn't even take her clothes off.
Also hanging on close to the last idea, i was expecting to fuck kelly as well and i'm pretty disappointed it doesn't happen. As for morinth, i would've let my character die once just to see how he dies during sex.
Other things i didn't like: - too few weapons - hoped to see more talking characters - shops didn't bring in new items - hard to make credits. i was lucky i had a very rich character from ME1 otherwise i probably wouldn't have had enough to buy everything i find
I don't understand why it's always limited to a 3 char group? Would've been way nicer to have all of your team come with you on missions even if that'd mean they have to make enemies much stronger.
And yeah, almost forgot. The WORSE THING, is that the car is gone... that awesome vehicle, mako or whatever was called.. it isn't anymore. WTF? i LOVED IT IN ME1. Landing with it on all sort of planets and driving around was great. Bad move on their side.
Parts of the story i didn't get. It felt like people were just ignorant. So everyone thought you got killed but when they met you they say just "cool, you're alive"... damn. I was expecting "OMGWTGBBQ you alive????!!!!". And what was with the end? I mean, i was expecting endless waves of enemies...
And a couple of tips: - feed the fish after each mission or they'll die. the hamster can't be fed so don't worry about him - if you need lots of credits and have time go on tuchanka (or whatever, the krog planet) at the gambling pit fights and bet on the red varren (it always wins). Easy 250cred. You can do it about 100 times in 5min (just space space space space). - aim for the head, headshot deals more damage - if you play soldier, max the adrenaline rush asap, that skill is absolutely imba, it can even make you invulnerable for 3 seconds at level 4.
Nice game anyway, it's worth playing it.
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Well, I finished the game today after starting a character, getting about halfway through and figuring out whats good, then starting a new character. (Its how I usually play RPG's)
Meh..
I had a good time at the beginning, but there just isn't much substance to the game, there aren't enough abilities and there is basically no gear, which is lame. I tried all the heavy weapons, which just aren't very interesting because you only really use them to kill bosses (and they are ALL way overpowered). I got like all the uprades that mattered, which is boring because they don't actually change gameplay, just damage. The game definitely got a ton shittier near the end, The final boss was a fucking joke (and dumb), as was the whole final mission.
If the game just had like 5 different weapons per type and a couple different pieces of armor it would be 100% better.
The mining "game" was absolutely TERRIBLE, I have never seen such an unenjoyable grindtastic task. It was bad at the beginning, and by the time I got to the end I guarantee you will hate the shit out of it.
Going all over the fucking place to find stores that sell upgrades was gay too, and then walking all the way back to the ship....
It was just...shallow.
BTW, if you use shotguns and get the Claymore heavy, it is way OP, as is the skill Reave during the end of the game. You can charge in and oneshot a Harbinger, or kill it with reave in like 2 hits.
Then I was going to start a new playthrough to see how the snipers were, and they made me watch the whole intro cutscene and walk through the burning ship AGAIN, unskippable. I was like fuck that and just quit. So I guess no second play...
I was having fun for the first few hours, but after its over, it was pretty bad.
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On January 27 2010 08:11 sob3k wrote: D3 foreva
Yup, ME is a clone of diablo, thanks for your awesome post.
On another note, pika spoiled for me , but I'm loving this game so much.
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On January 27 2010 08:13 PanN wrote:Yup, ME is a clone of diablo, thanks for your awesome post. On another note, pika spoiled for me  , but I'm loving this game so much.
If you pay attention, the rather large and in-depth post right above that is my impression of the game. While the short interjection afterward is expressing my neverending love for the Diablo franchise, in contrast to ME.
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On January 27 2010 08:13 PanN wrote:Yup, ME is a clone of diablo, thanks for your awesome post. On another note, pika spoiled for me  , but I'm loving this game so much.
Sorry, i made it with spoiler now.
Sob3k, with sniper you kill harbringer from one shot if you aim his head which isn't very hard if you do adrenaline rush.
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The game is really fun so far. The combat still doesn't hold up to other cover based 3rd person shooters, but god damn if it isn't worlds better than ME1. Combine that with the other shit that Bioware does well every game and ME2 is looking pretty great.
Also, does anyone know if you can control the arc of your biotics?
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Bioware lied about system requirements. My 4 year old pc with a p4 and geforece 8400gs runs the game. Although, performance is significantly worse in some areas than others...
I picked one of my ME saves at random. It was a paragon adept, so that is what I am currently playing.
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
Just finished the game on insanity.
It was worth it. I want to hurry up and kick some Reaper ass! 
Oh, and the game is moddable lololol. I "rebalanced" the biotics by removing the cooldowns of all party powers. Hahaha, talk about being a mage in a sci fi game.
Oh, and you can change the rate of fire/damage/attack range/accuracy decay rate of all the weapons in the game as well.
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Some people are already saying that this might be game of the year. I hope it is so that it encourage more developers to create these type of games.
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On January 27 2010 16:55 orgolove wrote:Just finished the game on insanity. It was worth it. I want to hurry up and kick some Reaper ass!  Oh, and the game is moddable lololol. I "rebalanced" the biotics by removing the cooldowns of all party powers. Hahaha, talk about being a mage in a sci fi game. Oh, and you can change the rate of fire/damage/attack range/accuracy decay rate of all the weapons in the game as well. 
What's the point in playing it on insanity if you're gonna mod it to be easy?
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Finished the game as soldier, 100% all missions completed. Such an awesome awesome game. I stayed loyal to Liara from ME1 so instead of a romance scene I got a scene where Shepard looks at her picture on his desk. Looks promising for ME3.
Starting a female playthrough now, probably as vanguard.
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i started as engineer and played like 4 hours. combat drone (mine is rank 2) seems to be so bad to me! gosh ...
can some high level engineer tell me, if it eventually gets better?
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im like halfway into the game and to be honest i enjoyed ME1 a lot more. It is still good though.
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