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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 09 2009 10:12 GMT
#101
e2
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
honey_badger
Profile Joined October 2009
Djibouti46 Posts
December 09 2009 10:26 GMT
#102
2.Nf3
김명운 Queen Zerg
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
December 09 2009 10:49 GMT
#103
On December 09 2009 18:00 okayokes wrote:
lol @ d4.

I hope we play the Najdorf.

5 -a6 am i right ? :D

pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
December 09 2009 10:52 GMT
#104
or 5-e5 svesnyikov
6-Ndb5 a6
7 Na3 b5 I love this :D
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 15:08:49
December 09 2009 14:53 GMT
#105
Updated:

Just played 2.....Nc6

On December 09 2009 02:48 Athos wrote:
haha, lightman, if you had played e5 I would be pushing for the halloween gambit And really, I don't see why so many people are objecting to the Mora Smith gambit, I'm just trying to spice up the game.


hahaha yes, the next match I play I'll go with one of those unorthodox openings.

A friend of mine I play on a daily basis has a sharp game on those non-common openings, Morra, Scandinavian, King Indian's, English, Bird, he's really into it and he's good, and even though we're pretty even I always have a tough time playing him.

I myself was seriously considering on playing Alekhine instead of Sicilian, but I thought it would have been a bit more difficult to follow during the early game and it would have been unproductive for learniinr purposes. Anyway, we can still break out of book after move 4, 5 and bring in a few surprises !
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 09 2009 15:18 GMT
#106
Sounds good!

Ill play in the next one, but i would be happy to play either white or black. That said, if I play black you might end up playing 20+ moves of caro-kann theory

You play 2...Nc6?!! A challenge!

Well, I don't know any sicilian theory, so I am going to advocate we grind you down 3. c3 for me please!
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
December 09 2009 15:24 GMT
#107
3. d4
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 09 2009 15:26 GMT
#108
Actually, I don't mind 3.Bb5 either, I just wouldn't feel very useful to the TL team in a mainline Sicilian
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Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4952 Posts
December 09 2009 15:27 GMT
#109
On December 08 2009 13:38 Arhkangel wrote:
OK! So lighman you are awesome. I've been doing my homework looking over some games, getting myself acquainted with some decent e4 openings and reading... a lot!

I want in! Just take my suggestions with a grain of salt and I welcome any criticism. I will also do my best to explain my choices :D

BTW regarding you going over the TL Chess Match I thread that's so awesome of you but at this point I think it's better for me to start analyzing this match, but I might take you up on it during the holidays.

I vote d2-d4

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I've seen a couple of e4 openings were the game progresses into a fight over control of the center of the board. I think that a P for better positioning is worth it, plus it stays in the spirit that I see the rest of the TL team aggressive and wanting to go for a fast win :p


Is lightman really that good that d4 is out of the question Naib?

Wow jfazz you really beat King? Is that match on Youtube I would love to watch it!


Well, I used to consider myself good enough that I never feared Morra's Gambit 'cause I was prepared for it. And I think lightman is a lot better than I ever was (I'm just thinking about picking up and competitively playing chess again because I have a bit of free time + 'cause of a certain girl but that's another story hehe)

I vote 3. d4


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Not much of an analysis I can add here, 2. - Nc6 can develop into various openings depending on what white / black does in the next few moves. 3. d4 is what people move 90% of the time, I'd like to see which standard opening lightman chooses.

Another option would be 3. Bb5 which could be smart if we just want to kill the action and be content with an equal-ish position. It usually leads to very boring games.

3. c3 (what jfazz suggests) is similar to 2. c3 closed-Sicilian openings (and leads to most of it's variations with a move interchange). I always thought that it's a pisspoor excuse of an opening so hence my vote for 3. d4

Let's play some real chess!


I'll try to contribute more to this thread than just popping in and voting for a move, yesterday's been pretty busy
Complete the cycle!
mIniAtURe
Profile Joined December 2009
United States32 Posts
December 09 2009 15:45 GMT
#110
3. Bb5.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 09 2009 15:56 GMT
#111
It doesn't sound like you enjoy positional chess Naib Embrace the dark side!
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
December 09 2009 16:05 GMT
#112
3.d4

Hopefully, we'll see some unorthodox moves this round.
God Mode: Alt+F4
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
December 09 2009 16:16 GMT
#113
3.d4
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 17:01:44
December 09 2009 16:52 GMT
#114
3. D4

I decided on a different idea
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 09 2009 19:15 GMT
#115
3. c3

I'm not good in the open Sicilians.
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Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4952 Posts
December 09 2009 20:01 GMT
#116
On December 10 2009 00:56 jfazz wrote:
It doesn't sound like you enjoy positional chess Naib Embrace the dark side!


Hehe, that's right. The sad part is, however, in the latter years of my "career" I became a lot better at positional chess to the point it actually surpassed my tactical abilities. I still enjoy tactics and wild play a lot more though
Complete the cycle!
jcu
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada93 Posts
December 09 2009 20:27 GMT
#117
I'll vote 3. d4.

I honestly don't mind if we end up playing c3 though. I know a couple of cheepo lines that promise white binds and nice positions if black doesn't react correctly.

3. c3 is generally smoother sailing after 2... d6 than 2... nc6 since it sidesteps certain unpleasant variations that generally promise black easy equality such as 3... d5 and such. But if people prefer a more positional game where you need less knowedge of opening theory, c3 isnt a bad alternative. For people that don't like the Open Sicilian, the most popular sidelines are 3. Bb5(Rossolimo), c3(transposes to Alapin) and Nc3(Closed Sicilian) not necessarily in that order.
TDK
Profile Joined December 2009
United States48 Posts
December 09 2009 20:28 GMT
#118
3.D4
50% of statistics are misquoted, including this one.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 09 2009 20:29 GMT
#119
D4



I really think the difference in chess between positional and tactical play can be greatly exaggerated. At least the way I see it, a positional 'boring' game can often lead to sharp tactical maneuvers that can really open up the game later on. Still, I just love gambits because they often create very weird and sharp positions from the start of the game. Overall though, I see Chess a game of making the best move for your late game goal.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
December 09 2009 20:48 GMT
#120
3. d4
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