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On March 09 2010 23:10 iG.ClouD wrote:
Hey guys, I'm playing an italian tournament and my team really needs to get a fast win (before 25th min) in our next match. We're supposed to play against a not so good team. I thought about employing soraka-silvir-kayle-fiddle. I use tf or corki as carry dps but I'd like to hear a couple suggestions from the more experienced players if possible ^^
Sivir, Alistar, Fiddle, Corki, TF would be the most rape fast push team.
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Soraka's pretty beastly for pushing, I think Sivir, Alistar, and Soraka are a good core 3 for pushing obscenely fast. Add in Fiddle/TF + Corki/Trist/Twitch and you should be able to roll a bad team mad quickly.
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Sivir, Alist, Taric, Corki, TF or something would be my suggestion. Replace Taric with Soraka if desired.
Edit:
If you want an even faster, stronger push, replace Corki with Nidalee for an extra heal.
So you'd be looking at Sivir, Alist, Taric/Soraka, Nidalee, TF.
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if you were to go nidalee, I think Taric would definitely be a stronger choice than soraka to take advantage of his ult with nidalee and sivir's AS buffs.
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Soraka's mana regen is nice, though, but whatever the case it's a win-win situ, you'd probably hafta try both once or twice to see which is more effective.
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Well, the other issue I see is that swapping Corki out for Nidalee reduces your physical damage output a bit, so I just see Taric's Radiance buff as a big plus for letting you capitalize on kills by quickly taking towers.
I think going Sivir with Starks, and Alistar and Taric with Aegis and Soul Shroud would be pretty abusive in team fights. Damn, kinda makes me wanna play that team right now :p.
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True, it's just a matter of deciding whether the heal/buff from Nid is stronger than Corki's late-game prowess. If you want to end a game fast, level 6 burst damage and heal+buff > pure dps carry.
'Tis why I said faster, stronger push 
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On March 10 2010 01:58 Southlight wrote:True, it's just a matter of deciding whether the heal/buff from Nid is stronger than Corki's late-game prowess. If you want to end a game fast, level 6 burst damage and heal+buff > pure dps carry. 'Tis why I said faster, stronger push
I like Corki coz he's got some good aoe and a detection spell, so it helps vs those teams that try to use stealthers to initiate. Good points on soraka/taric though. Either of those over Corki would be nice. I still think Fiddle is an excellent pusher though. He shuts down any attempts to break the push with his ult/silence. His silence doubles as a really nice push spell and he's got a great disable + life drain to heal himself. The fear is extra nice because a lot of people don't have merc treads in those early pushes.
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About AP Mundo: I tried it once and it was horrible. You have one ability that scales with AP and Rylai's doesn't affect it. I didn't use Rageblade, though - that might be worthwhile. I'm pretty sure, however, that Stark's is better in all ways than a Rageblade, especially since you're at least providing the aura to teammates.
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i just realized that i have Corki activated on my account, although i never bought him. there is also nothing to be find in the buying history and i dont miss any points.
today i have a game on my account where it says i fled, but this game was never played. wtf?
buggy?
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Well about Corki they gave away him and his UFO skin to accounts created before a certain time I believe.
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Corki was given free to everyone like a month ago.
No idea about your cowardice, though.
:D
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On March 10 2010 02:06 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2010 01:58 Southlight wrote:True, it's just a matter of deciding whether the heal/buff from Nid is stronger than Corki's late-game prowess. If you want to end a game fast, level 6 burst damage and heal+buff > pure dps carry. 'Tis why I said faster, stronger push I like Corki coz he's got some good aoe and a detection spell, so it helps vs those teams that try to use stealthers to initiate. Good points on soraka/taric though. Either of those over Corki would be nice. I still think Fiddle is an excellent pusher though. He shuts down any attempts to break the push with his ult/silence. His silence doubles as a really nice push spell and he's got a great disable + life drain to heal himself. The fear is extra nice because a lot of people don't have merc treads in those early pushes.
Fiddle is certainly excellent, but I don't think he matches up with the team dynamic. I think Sivir + Alistar + Taric + Nidalee + TF is about as cohesive a pushing machine as you can get for ending the game early. The team packs a massive amount of heals and auras/buffs, will absolutely demolish creep waves, has excellent map control/presence, and solid CC and burst. I guess you're proposing him over Nidalee in this setup (also probably changes Taric to Soraka), but I think losing Nidalee's burst, heal/buff, and map control aren't worth the benefits that Fiddle provides and I think you also lose a bit of your ability to take down towers quickly.
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On March 10 2010 02:11 Tooplark wrote:
About AP Mundo: I tried it once and it was horrible. You have one ability that scales with AP and Rylai's doesn't affect it. I didn't use Rageblade, though - that might be worthwhile. I'm pretty sure, however, that Stark's is better in all ways than a Rageblade, especially since you're at least providing the aura to teammates.
Can´t take it serious since Rylai´s works on Cleaver and Burning Agony. This makes Mundo essentially unescapable.
Starks is situational, if no one else benefits or already has one you are better off with Phantom Dancers. Unfortunately AP simply doesn´t scale enough to be worthwhile.
Rageblade is a bad choice as it is only really good for Mundo for the Attackspeed and there are better choices than that.
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Rageblade is only good if you take advantage of every aspect of it and have low CD spamable abilities to keep it on 8 all the time and the only two characters I've played that really seem good about these things are Jax and Nidalee.
*lightbulb above my head*
OMG, perfect for Battle Soraka :p!
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Hahah, Pokey, the voice chat you didn't hear in our last game:
*Your ally has been slain.*
"Are you guys okay up there?"
"Yeah, yeah, we're good, we're fine."
*one minute later*
*Your ally has been slain.*
"Are you guys really okay up there?"
"What? Yeah, we're fine."
*three minutes later*
*Your ally has been slain.*
"Seriously?"
"We're fine, man, we're fine!"
*~10 minutes later*
*our mord kills their pantheon*
"See? We were fine."
"Warwick's coming to you."
"Is he alone?"
"As far as we can tell, yes."
*gets ganked by 3*
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when do you guys usually play? I think I wanna try out playing with some TLers sometime soon.
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I play somewhat sporadically, but my timeframe is usually around 6pm to 11pm ET.
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aight cool, that's pretty much the range when I'm on too. I'm just usually too lazy to join Liquid Party, but I finally set myself up to automatically log onto it at sign on.
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EPT
