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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 17 2010 20:57 GMT
#1141
fear is a stupid mechanic, discuss.
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Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
February 17 2010 21:23 GMT
#1142
Most people prefer MPen, unless your champion has really good AP Ratios.

As for Flat/Scaling, the general rule is Static Quints, Scaling otherwise.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 17 2010 21:27 GMT
#1143
On February 18 2010 03:21 Haemonculus wrote:
Fiddlesticks is basically an infested terran. In team fights, he rolls in with crowstorm, does a crapton of damage, and then usually dies pretty damn quickly.

Once his ult is over, no one really expects him to survive team battles.

Not sure I agree with that, seeing as, even without his ult, a well-placed silence from Fiddle can basically win a team-fight on its own.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 17 2010 21:32 GMT
#1144
On February 18 2010 06:23 Yiruru wrote:
Most people prefer MPen, unless your champion has really good AP Ratios.

As for Flat/Scaling, the general rule is Static Quints, Scaling otherwise.

What's the consensus on CD redux Quints? They scale at the same rate on Quints vs. glyphs (level 13 scaling = static), and I figure I do most of my ability spamming at level 13+ so I went for scaling, but I'm curious what other people think on this decision.
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mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
February 17 2010 22:10 GMT
#1145
I have a quick question, is nasus viable at higher level play??
"Only the Good Die Young"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 17 2010 22:13 GMT
#1146
On February 18 2010 07:10 mptj wrote:
I have a quick question, is nasus viable at higher level play??

L0cust's tier list puts him in the 2nd tier, so yea, he's viable.
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Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
February 17 2010 22:22 GMT
#1147
Nasus is viable, but he's never played anymore for some reason.

Not sure about CD Quints, I haven't seen anyone use them really. I just get 6% on my glyphs, 9% from masteries for 15% on my Caster Page. Golem will max out your CD afterwards.
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
February 17 2010 23:29 GMT
#1148
Ok, so now that Nasus is viable, lets discuss. Right now, im playing, and all I do is build up siphoning strike which I think is right. I like him cuz I'm raping every single attack speed champ in the game, but my build is a bit iffy. I start off with the crystal then I get sheen. From there I get merc's treads, then stark's fervor, then nashor's tooth, then black cleaver, then idk what to get. If you know a really solid build please let me know!
"Only the Good Die Young"
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 17 2010 23:30 GMT
#1149
On February 18 2010 06:32 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2010 06:23 Yiruru wrote:
Most people prefer MPen, unless your champion has really good AP Ratios.

As for Flat/Scaling, the general rule is Static Quints, Scaling otherwise.

What's the consensus on CD redux Quints? They scale at the same rate on Quints vs. glyphs (level 13 scaling = static), and I figure I do most of my ability spamming at level 13+ so I went for scaling, but I'm curious what other people think on this decision.

CD reduction is amazing but it completely depends on your item build because it caps out at 40%. Usually if you're getting a bunch of CD reduction items you don't need it, and if you plan to have the golem buff all the time you don't need it, but otherwise I love maxing out my cooldown.

I play cho though, so I need it for epic rupture scream feast combos.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Archaea
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom19 Posts
February 17 2010 23:40 GMT
#1150
Loving this game atm name is "I Archaea I" add me, also is team liquid active on the euro server if so what is there chat?
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
February 17 2010 23:49 GMT
#1151
On February 17 2010 19:17 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2010 12:17 Gao Xi wrote:
MasterYi looks really fun, hitting shit with crazy high attack speed an crits.
Karthus is like super sick imo


They're both pretty useless champions.

Master Yi is absolutely awful. He has 0 CC and almost no AOE, which are the two most important elements with the current metagame due to the game falling into 5 man roaming gank/push squads once mid/late game rolls around. He also has no defensive mechanisms, so in a 5v5 team fight when everyone targets him due to his high damage he will just die instantly.

Karthus's ult is nice to finish off enemies that barely get away, but other than that he has no CC and his AoE isn't very useful due to not being able to do it from range. If you actually get enough AP to do damage everyone will target you immediately which doesn't work well for you when you have to get basically in melee range of their team to be doing damage to them with your aoe.

I don't play LoL at a high enough lvl for Karthus not to be useless.
On February 18 2010 00:46 Brees wrote:
karthus is pretty damn good in my opinion, im 20-3 with him most played

Yea i get like 12-6-12 in most of my games too, as Karthus.
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 18 2010 00:08 GMT
#1152
On February 18 2010 08:29 mptj wrote:
Ok, so now that Nasus is viable, lets discuss. Right now, im playing, and all I do is build up siphoning strike which I think is right. I like him cuz I'm raping every single attack speed champ in the game, but my build is a bit iffy. I start off with the crystal then I get sheen. From there I get merc's treads, then stark's fervor, then nashor's tooth, then black cleaver, then idk what to get. If you know a really solid build please let me know!


I actually get Tiamat/resist boots/sheen/last whisper/trinity/inf edge/phantom dancer. Or instead of phantom, I get guardian angel. Depends how nuke heavy the other team is.

Since Nasus already comes built in with lifesteal, I'm not so keen on spending money to buy more.
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
February 18 2010 00:30 GMT
#1153
hey, im jw, are there any melee DPS charcters that are viable besides nasus? cuz I got some love for the melee DPS ers of this game but they all seem to be terrible at a higher level
"Only the Good Die Young"
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
February 18 2010 00:42 GMT
#1154
Pnaxighn on LoL, feel free to add me. Currently switching around between sucking and being awful, with a final decision to come.

--oberon
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
February 18 2010 00:48 GMT
#1155
Most people build Nasus as a tank, since Trinity is pretty much all he needs for DPS.

Yes Melee DPSers in general are bad in this game, there's lost of inherent problems with the design itself. Shaco and Pantheon are probably the most viable in high level, but even then not in organized play.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 00:59:45
February 18 2010 00:59 GMT
#1156
On February 18 2010 09:30 mptj wrote:
hey, im jw, are there any melee DPS charcters that are viable besides nasus? cuz I got some love for the melee DPS ers of this game but they all seem to be terrible at a higher level

I feel like sion is, but I'm probably not at a super high ELO.

And you should be playing him AP anyway :D.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
February 18 2010 01:09 GMT
#1157
http://www.leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/823,Nasus The Curator Of HUGE DAMAGE
This is kinda decent guide for nasus (good site overall btw)
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
February 18 2010 02:52 GMT
#1158
Damn, that nasus guide is pretty good ^_^
"Only the Good Die Young"
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 05:26:51
February 18 2010 05:26 GMT
#1159
On February 18 2010 05:13 Southlight wrote:
Definitely not even.


I just meant in the laning stages. In teamfights, Fiddle > Karth no contest.
One of the fun things about Karthus is just the threat of his ultimate. Even if you never get kills with it, it still forces people to play much more carefully. Or have heals/shields/Veil.
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mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
February 18 2010 05:36 GMT
#1160
I agree, Karthus is just sooo fun to play, but the fiddlesticks is hard because to get a lot of AP ypu almost certainly need soulsteal, but to get kills in teamfights, you willl almost assuredly die.
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