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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 04 2010 21:59 GMT
#5501
I'm getting fed up with solo queuing... Last game our team surrendered at 25min and I was 2-3-0 with trynd. You might think that's bad, but the rest of my team had 2-19 combined. Yeah...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
June 04 2010 22:03 GMT
#5502
Hey, so I was looking into playing this because I heard it was like Dota, but it's not really like Dota. (In comparison HoN is Exactly like Dota, hero to hero...)
Any quick advice for a decent/good Dota player hoping to start? Was thining about playing some sort of Random for 20 games or so to learn everybody.
Smash fear, learn anything; except for spiders
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
June 04 2010 22:11 GMT
#5503
On June 05 2010 07:03 Yammiez wrote:
Hey, so I was looking into playing this because I heard it was like Dota, but it's not really like Dota. (In comparison HoN is Exactly like Dota, hero to hero...)
Any quick advice for a decent/good Dota player hoping to start? Was thining about playing some sort of Random for 20 games or so to learn everybody.


It's like dota (as the objectives are the same) but its not like dota as spells are generally less powerful but less mana intensive thus you can do more cool stuff other than auto attack.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 04 2010 22:13 GMT
#5504
Yeah we've made it relatively clear that HoN is more like DotA while LoL is like an evolved version of it. A lot faster and more terrain brutality, IMO >_>

Advice... well the biggest "culture shock" you'll find is that regen isn't very good in LoL (I believe regen items were pretty good because laning "durability" was significant in lanecontrol DotA) and you can teleport back to base at will, so you have to incorporate that into your gameplan.

And for about 200-300 games you'll end playing against/with really bad players.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 04 2010 22:41 GMT
#5505
On June 05 2010 07 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              05 2010 07      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:13 Southlight wrote:
Yeah we've made it relatively clear that HoN is more like DotA while LoL is like an evolved version of it. A lot faster and more terrain brutality, IMO >_>

Advice... well the biggest "culture shock" you'll find is that regen isn't very good in LoL (I believe regen items were pretty good because laning "durability" was significant in lanecontrol DotA) and you can teleport back to base at will, so you have to incorporate that into your gameplan.

And for about 200-300 games you'll end playing against/with really bad players.

I disagree, I believe regen is far better in LoL than in DotA/HoN.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 04 2010 22:48 GMT
#5506
Why?

Mana regen you can make do completely well with Golem and Mana regen per level runes; wasting money on mana regen will usually set your build behind. There are only two AP items that give sufficient mana regen to be worth it - one is Archangel's Staff which is a really slow and otherwise pretty useless item (very niche - only see on Morgana/Zil/Ezreal), the other is Deathfire Grasp which is underused and only good for nukers anyways.

HP regen you're much better-off purchasing health regen potions, as for the same cost as a normal HP regen item you're going to get much more useful regen. The main few heroes that actually pump HP regen are the two that have ults based on it (Mundo, Singed) or tank heroes that make FoN in an effort to overwhelm a caster and their magic pen.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
g1rg10
Profile Joined October 2007
Italy186 Posts
June 04 2010 22:49 GMT
#5507
Mmm i guess then that formula doesn't always work then XD
I know how ELO works, you know, after many years of MTG and watching my own rating going up and rapidly diving back down...
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 00:00:57
June 04 2010 23:54 GMT
#5508
On June 05 2010 07:03 Yammiez wrote:
Hey, so I was looking into playing this because I heard it was like Dota, but it's not really like Dota. (In comparison HoN is Exactly like Dota, hero to hero...)
Any quick advice for a decent/good Dota player hoping to start? Was thining about playing some sort of Random for 20 games or so to learn everybody.

First advice is to just play a couple matches to get acquainted with features of the game like brush, summoner spells, minion/turret aggro, jungle buffs from the golem and lizard, the dragon and baron, and to get a feel for the champions and what playstyle you like. After playing some games, you should focus on looking for champions to invest Influence Points on to buy.
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Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
June 05 2010 00:31 GMT
#5509
Thanks for all the help. Getting used to having the hero always selected so I don't have to double tap 1 or f1 to center =P.

Southlight nailed my thoughts exactly, much more action, more spell use and the game feels like goes pretty quick. It's not quite 'easymode -em' but it's not quite as farming like a normal mode.

I guess now the incentive to play now is to get points to unlock the runes and champions. Not sure if I'll bother learning the best rune use and summoner skill load-out; gonna keep playing with random things.

100 games with bad players =X uggh.
Smash fear, learn anything; except for spiders
Trok67
Profile Joined May 2010
France384 Posts
June 05 2010 01:54 GMT
#5510
Hi, im thinking about buying the game because of sc2 beta break, i have a few questions about it, maybe there have allready been answered but i cant read 280 pages :
1) are there a lot of players ?
2) is the game instereting in term of gameplay ?
3) what are the main difference beetween this game and Heroes of newerth ? they both seem to be dota-like
4) does it looks like dota a lot ?
5) are game very long like dota ?
6) and finally is the game fun ?

thx for answers
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
June 05 2010 02:11 GMT
#5511
Jeez how many times do I have to say this: IT'S FREE. League of Legends is a free game! WOOO.

Go to their website, download the FULL GAME (for free) and see if you like it or not.
Retvrn to Forvms
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
June 05 2010 02:15 GMT
#5512
I suggest you do some research buddy, the game's free.

1)Yes
2)Yes
3)Main differences are: No denying, spells cost way less mana but don't do as much damage (comparatively), no such thing as int/str/agi heroes, the main map is way smaller (though it's still 5v5), the jungle is smaller and there's buffs in it you can get from killing some of the monsters
4) google it yourself
5)Average games are like 30-35 mins~
6)yes
u gotta sk8
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 02:39:08
June 05 2010 02:38 GMT
#5513
LoL is a great game... Really fun
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
June 05 2010 02:52 GMT
#5514
On June 05 2010 11:38 Gokey wrote:
LoL is a great game... Really fun


Fun to play it with you in bed.

Whoever wants to learn LoL, shoot me a PM on here and I'll set up a small tutorial class for you guys out there.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
June 05 2010 02:56 GMT
#5515
Yeah me too... I'll train people.

For money. >

Hit me up at my website!

www.gosulolcoaching.com

Also I'm holding a LoL training camp in my room in B.C, Canada for 500$ a day, anyone interested?
Retvrn to Forvms
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
June 05 2010 02:59 GMT
#5516
On June 05 2010 11:56 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah me too... I'll train people.

For money. >

Hit me up at my website!

www.gosulolcoaching.com

Also I'm holding a LoL training camp in my room in B.C, Canada for 500$ a day, anyone interested?


Trolled.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 05 2010 03:10 GMT
#5517
On June 05 2010 11:56 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah me too... I'll train people.

For money. >

Hit me up at my website!

www.gosulolcoaching.com

Also I'm holding a LoL training camp in my room in B.C, Canada for 500$ a day, anyone interested?

I'll sponsor Soloside for a month's worth of sessions. Kid needs some skills.

<3
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
June 05 2010 03:14 GMT
#5518
On June 05 2010 12:10 Gokey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 11:56 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah me too... I'll train people.

For money. >

Hit me up at my website!

www.gosulolcoaching.com

Also I'm holding a LoL training camp in my room in B.C, Canada for 500$ a day, anyone interested?

I'll sponsor Soloside for a month's worth of sessions. Kid needs some skills.

<3


I need to go to rehab for my tower diving obsessions when I'm TF. Maybe I'll talk to Soner about this....
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
June 05 2010 03:25 GMT
#5519
liquid party is terrible, 500 people and no replies
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
June 05 2010 03:35 GMT
#5520
Gozey versus Soloside: War of the Small-name Egos!
(the difference between me and Gozey is I know exactly how bad I am.)

So here's some actual content, my thoughts on a couple of champions I've been trying to learn:

+ Show Spoiler [Mordekaiser] +
I've been trying to figure out exactly what Mord does well.
As a tank, he has no initiating power, no way to keep people away from squishies, and good damage absorption which is directly based on how much damage he does.
As a DPS, he has decent survivability and good base stat growth, but no chasing, no real finishing, no escaping, no steroid skill (except his ult which requires bursting someone down already and is countered by cleanse), and one ability that scales with AD and even then just hits an extra 3 targets.
As a caster, he has no burst damage but good sustained damage, good survivability (basically pre-lifesteal), is countered by cleanse, has no escaping or chasing method, and has poor AP ratios.

I think he's closest, in terms of gameplay, to Singed. However, unlike Singed, he scales miserably, has no CC, has no escape, and brb premade; will be continued
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