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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
He's like udyr before he got super nerfed. High damage output, an obscene amount of lifesteal, and he does more damage the more you kill him... To put this in perspective: with almost no items and about 200 hp I solo'd dragon and had ~900 after it was over. His only real crutch is his mana pool sucks. | ||
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HypnoticPoo
Singapore291 Posts
On June 04 2010 00:45 Fruscainte wrote: I'm looking for a good aggressive Tyranemere build. This is basically how it goes right now. Regrowth Pendant Attack Speed Boots Zeal + Agility Elixir Agility Cloak (or whatever it's called) ??????? Boots 3x HP(upgrade to berserkers, you dont even need other boots cause of ur ult) - You need these to solo mid and last hit creeps without getting out harrassed Ex Calling - Lifesteal/crits and the healing debuff now is awesome Last Whisper Edge Agi elixers are awesome if you feel you dont have good enough crit chance. | ||
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pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:58 pokeyAA wrote: wtf happened to the eve remake making a new ult i think | ||
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:58 pokeyAA wrote: wtf happened to the eve remake My guess is that they decided she stomps newbies enough that she didn't need to become stronger >_> | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:23 suffeli wrote: Kayle is broken on test realm atm. Olaf is not very good from what I've read and heard. He has no disables so he is more like Morde as a tank. ** Kayle invulns herself and whacks a turret down with righteous fury, while everyone is hitting on her. He is the BD god right now. His slow-axe isn't a disable? | ||
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Nogardeci89
United States113 Posts
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On June 04 2010 03:30 Nogardeci89 wrote: How come no one is talking about the ridiculous Ez nerf? I dont know if i want to main ez anymore if they patch him like this. I mean, ud pretty much have to go ad from now on. I dont see essence flux being of much use in an ap build as they are essentially making it half its previous utility. It does seem like a major nerf. I consider Ez top tier right now (and I'm definitely not alone) -- not only is he good, he's VERY flexible (heal, DPS, burst, whatever). It's almost like Riot wants him to not even be top tier. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 04 2010 03:30 Nogardeci89 wrote: How come no one is talking about the ridiculous Ez nerf? I dont know if i want to main ez anymore if they patch him like this. I mean, ud pretty much have to go ad from now on. I dont see essence flux being of much use in an ap build as they are essentially making it half its previous utility. Essence flux still does a lot of damage. Ezreal needed this nerf so he wasn't head and shoulders above almost every other champion. The healing nerf was needed (as its pretty much impossible to beat without a ton of anti-healing or kat/pirate) and the AS nerf is not so crippling that you cant play him anymore, its just not as easy to auto-win. And before you say I know nothing; I have more games played with Ezreal than any other champion and I think this is more than fair. Especially if they lower the mana cost of Essence Flux like suggested. | ||
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
Snares are not disables, by the way. Not even close. However it does make Olaf slightly more viable as a tank than Mord, if he is in fact a tank at all. As it is it seems to me more like he's a DPS hero ala Yi/Trynd, and calling Trynd a tank that has a disable (Trynd has an AoE snare, too!) is kind of a joke :p | ||
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On June 04 2010 03:30 Nogardeci89 wrote: well... he had it coming. even after the nerf, essence flux was still a soraka ult on a 7 second CD. the ASPD buff/debuff was so damn broken. he isn't a gamebreaker like janna is but is still top top tier.How come no one is talking about the ridiculous Ez nerf? I dont know if i want to main ez anymore if they patch him like this. I mean, ud pretty much have to go ad from now on. I dont see essence flux being of much use in an ap build as they are essentially making it half its previous utility. regardless, AP will still outclass AD in every way after the nerf. the dmg values stay the same so his bursting capability will remain top-tier. i guess you can't think of him as a true "healer" anymore and that will push him down in people's "IMBA" lists but he'll still be a good character due to his ridiculous burst damage output, decent laning presence, free flash, and semi-global ult. edit: btw that change to Q will break him even more for lvl 1 TT fights. red pot ez is already ridiculously strong but this will give him an even bigger boost. | ||
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:42 Phrost wrote: Tryndamere is amazing, I don't know what you heard. He's like udyr before he got super nerfed. High damage output, an obscene amount of self-heal, and he does more damage the more you kill him... Something about soloing dragon, can't state exact numbers. His only real crutch is his abilties cost hp instead of mana. Actually, it's not really a crutch. | ||
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
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Nogardeci89
United States113 Posts
Especially if they lower the mana cost of Essence Flux like suggested. if they did this i wouldnt mind so much, but that wasnt in the release notes so i didnt know about it. | ||
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
Edit: To that end, yes, I firmly believe Nidalee's heal also needs a nerf. But don't we all :p | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 04 2010 04:00 Southlight wrote: Edit: To that end, yes, I firmly believe Nidalee's heal also needs a nerf. But don't we all :p The problem with Nidalee is that shes very strong early game (between levels 6 and 13 lets say) but she is terrible at the end of the game unless she made a huge impact on the early/mid game because she scales terribly. As it stands Nidalee's ability to lane better than any other champion is the only reason she is good. If they nerfed that then she would be heimer level useless. | ||
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
Edit: Other buffs include Nunu (who buffs mspeed and aspd for both himself and one other target), the movement speed buff/debuffs of various heroes, and Taric and Sivirs ults, who get more leeway when it comes to balance because they are ults; one with huge cooldown (esp compared to its duration) and one whose ult blows away at his mana pool. Essentially, why does Nidalee have one single spell that heals as much as devoted healers (Taric Soraka) that also gives one of the strongest buffs in the game, all for the lowest mana cost? You can nerf her attack speed, or you can make it cost more mana. But it's bizarre why it's the best of every world. | ||
suffeli
Finland772 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:27 Southlight wrote: She* >_> Wait you even said "her" LOL Hehe... yeah, its a problem for finnish people because we don't have feminine and masculine definitions in our language like she / he. We use the word 'hän' for that and it doesn't tell the sex of a person. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 04 2010 04:19 suffeli wrote: Hehe... yeah, its a problem for finnish people because we don't have feminine and masculine definitions in our language like she / he. We use the word 'hän' for that and it doesn't tell the sex of a person. "It" also works well | ||
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