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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 06 2010 23:39 GMT
#3681
nidalee isnt good on TT, not even close
Brees on in
Malderon
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands136 Posts
May 06 2010 23:47 GMT
#3682
On May 07 2010 08:13 seanisgrand wrote:
christ it pisses me off when people play the free champs for the first time in a MM game. for effs sake please try them in 1 practice game at least so you can get some familiarity with their spells and get a minimum build order down, it just rages me soCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAW


Indeed, I wonder why people would do this. Are they too stupid to realise that they'll just be a dead weight on their team, and dimish the entire team's chances of winning ,including their own, or do they just don't care, or maybe they are arrogant enough to think they'll be okay?

On May 07 2010 08:39 Brees wrote:
nidalee isnt good on TT, not even close


Why, if I may ask? Not strong enough early game? I don't know her all that well, only played her once in a botmatch, which is of course doesn't teach one much except some basic familiarity with a champion's abilities.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 06 2010 23:53 GMT
#3683
MM is the only way to gauge how good or bad I am at a particular hero; practice doesn't count I can AP Soraka and carry in practice games.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 06 2010 23:55 GMT
#3684
I'm not a top player by any chance but I've been doing great with Nidalee on TT. She is pretty weak early game but you can stay alive with heal till lvl 6 then just destroy all the minions. She also gets great speed boosts thanks to all the bushes.
Who are the top heroes for TT then?
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 07 2010 00:14 GMT
#3685
the point of nidalee is to be a ranged carry in a teamfight with heals and clean-up with cougar form, you also gank early game with cougar and escape with it.

on TT, all the strongest heroes are melee(bad on SR) and being a ranged carry that isnt even a hard carry is a pretty bad idea on TT, if you go into cougar you will die in 2 seconds against the main offenders(jax, mundo, warwick, shen, etc)
Brees on in
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 07 2010 00:15 GMT
#3686
Apparently "teamfighting" is easily confused with "running into a pile of enemies while playing a squishy." WTF, seriously.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 04:43:58
May 07 2010 04:07 GMT
#3687
If I were making a Treeline tier list it would go something like this (in no particular order):
Amazing: Mundo, Warwick, Shen, Udyr, Poppy, Gragas, Sion, Pantheon, Jax, Rammus, Cho'gath, Zilean, Ezreal, Janna
Good: Mordekaiser, Evelynn, Shaco, Taric, Annie, Nunu, Katarina, Kayle, Nasus, Kennen, Kassadin, Soraka, Anivia, Fiddlesticks
Decent: Morgana, Heimerdinger, Ryze, Nidalee, Teemo, Singed, Corki, Gangplank, Tryndamere, Blitzcrank,
Playable: Malphite, Alistar, Amumu, Karthus, Sivir, Twisted Fate, Ashe
Don't: Master Yi, Veigar
(in retrospect, I need to split up the Good tier a little)
In general, Amazing means good early damage, survivability, mobility, map control, etc.
Good means not survivable enough/needs too many levels to do damage, etc.
Decent means contributes something good, but has too many drawbacks.
Playable means they contribute something, but not enough or not frequently enough to justify them.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 07 2010 04:20 GMT
#3688
On May 07 2010 13:07 Tooplark wrote:
If I were making a Treeline tier list it would go something like this (in no particular order):
Amazing: Mundo, Warwick, Shen, Udyr, Poppy, Gragas, Sion, Pantheon, Jax, Rammus, Cho'gath, Zilean
Good: Mordekaiser, Ezreal, Evelynn, Shaco, Taric, Janna, Annie, Nunu, Tryndamere, Katarina, Kayle, Nasus, Kennen, Kassadin, Soraka, Anivia, Fiddlesticks
Decent: Morgana, Heimerdinger, Ryze, Nidalee, Teemo, Singed, Corki, Gangplank, Blitzcrank,
Playable: Malphite, Alistar, Amumu, Karthus, Sivir, Twisted Fate, Ashe
Don't: Master Yi, Veigar
(in retrospect, I need to split up the Good tier a little)
In general, Amazing means good early damage, survivability, mobility, map control, etc.
Good means not survivable enough/needs too many levels to do damage, etc.
Decent means contributes something good, but has too many drawbacks.
Playable means they contribute something, but not enough or not frequently enough to justify them.
janna and ez are amazing on TT (ever fought a red pot ez at lvl 1? ever tried to lane vs janna/jax?). morgana is ok, tryndamere isn't that good. singed is playable, pirate is never good ever. katarina isn't that good, haven't really seen taric or eve too much but can't imagine them doing remotely enough damage to the top tier.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 07 2010 04:42 GMT
#3689
Oh, right. I forgot to consider how big of a deal red pots are.
Yeah, Trynd requires too much farm.
I have singed where he is just because he's fairly durable and poison damage SERIOUSLY adds up on TT.
Morgana I just find too squishy. Obviously DB is great, but most of the people on Treeline don't do enough magical damage to make BS a worry and no one will stay in TS. The damage in any one of them is rather negligible until you get a lot of levels. Ult is great though.
Taric and Eve because Southlight said so lol. I hate Eve, but Taric has a crazy good heal, good durability, a 2sec stun, and a -armor debuff.
Why is Pirate so bad? Too reliant on a lucky crit? Too squishy? I have him as decent because of his speed, single target burst, and healing debuff. He's about as late game as it's possible to be. Oh, and he also gets a lot out of Fort elixir.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 07 2010 05:03 GMT
#3690
people who complain about ks (which are ALWAYS accidental...) are straight up faggots.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 07 2010 05:04 GMT
#3691
On May 07 2010 13:42 Tooplark wrote:
Oh, right. I forgot to consider how big of a deal red pots are.
Yeah, Trynd requires too much farm.
I have singed where he is just because he's fairly durable and poison damage SERIOUSLY adds up on TT.
Morgana I just find too squishy. Obviously DB is great, but most of the people on Treeline don't do enough magical damage to make BS a worry and no one will stay in TS. The damage in any one of them is rather negligible until you get a lot of levels. Ult is great though.
Taric and Eve because Southlight said so lol. I hate Eve, but Taric has a crazy good heal, good durability, a 2sec stun, and a -armor debuff.
Why is Pirate so bad? Too reliant on a lucky crit? Too squishy? I have him as decent because of his speed, single target burst, and healing debuff. He's about as late game as it's possible to be. Oh, and he also gets a lot out of Fort elixir.
like what is eve gonna do to a full health jax? i mean its great that she can pick off the low health champs but its basically 2v3 until people start getting low health. AP melee glass cannons are not advisable. oh and she doesn't farm too well either.

taric i can sort of imagine but is definitely overshadowed by the other champs.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 07 2010 08:57 GMT
#3692
Taric's targeted stun and heals are straight-up amazing with a good team comp. It's not what he does by himself, but what he does with a team. The guys I queue with run Kayle/Taric with me as Cho for our TT matches. We absolutely rape. If that TT tourney hadn't closed two hours after it opened we would have placed, guaranteed.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 07 2010 08:59 GMT
#3693
Also I think time jesus might be the hardest champ to play against on TT. He's not the best, but he's the most dangerous to your gameplan if you overextend at all.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 07 2010 10:38 GMT
#3694
On May 07 2010 17:57 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Taric's targeted stun and heals are straight-up amazing with a good team comp. It's not what he does by himself, but what he does with a team. The guys I queue with run Kayle/Taric with me as Cho for our TT matches. We absolutely rape. If that TT tourney hadn't closed two hours after it opened we would have placed, guaranteed.
for many reasons i highly doubt that.
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Dr.Kill-Joy
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States627 Posts
May 07 2010 11:22 GMT
#3695
On May 07 2010 08:39 Brees wrote:
nidalee isnt good on TT, not even close


Man your stupid... I don't even need to tell you why because of that comment.
About To Ass Rape That Face Wit Some Words
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 07 2010 11:56 GMT
#3696
On May 07 2010 20:22 Dr.Kill-Joy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 08:39 Brees wrote:
nidalee isnt good on TT, not even close


Man your stupid... I don't even need to tell you why because of that comment.
nidalee isn't good on TT...
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
May 07 2010 12:45 GMT
#3697
Cleanse > Taric, and EVERYONE uses cleanse on TT. Without his stun, he is pretty mediocre. His shatter aura is helping 3 people instead of 5. His ulti is helping 3 people instead of 5. His heal is still good, but not good enough to negate focus from from jax poppy and zilean. '

There's no reason to use nidalee on TT. Her strength comes from her mobility and ability to juke and harass people. On SR, she's pretty much unkillable in the first 10-20 minutes because she has a huge forest to escape if she gets ganked. On TT, the map is tiny, enemies are everywhere, and it's all about teamfights right from the start. Nidalee isn't good once teamfights actually starts - she's good at cleanup and forcing teamfights in favorable positions when people chase her, none of which is very effective on TT. Oh, and her map control via her traps is also redundant in TT, since the map is small enough to just buy wards.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 07 2010 13:02 GMT
#3698
The best evidence on Nidalee on TT is watching HotshotGG's games during the tourney. He's clearly holding his team back and being good, not great, and he's the best Nidalee player in the game right now.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 07 2010 13:57 GMT
#3699
i love when random scrubs just post out of nowhere and tell me im bad lol.

on a related note, singed is excellent on TT.
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 07 2010 14:33 GMT
#3700
I know singed is supposedly not that great on SR, but for the life of me I can't figure out wtf his weakness is :p.

I feel like such a scrub vs. good Singed players... after over 500 games I still have no idea what I'm supposed to do to not get chased by that 600 movespeed motherfucker, flipped back onto his poison trail and do nothing more than tickle him with my attacks as I take fucktons of damage from poison. He's definitely the champion I feel least comfortable again .
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