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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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Malderon
Netherlands136 Posts
On May 07 2010 08:13 seanisgrand wrote: christ it pisses me off when people play the free champs for the first time in a MM game. for effs sake please try them in 1 practice game at least so you can get some familiarity with their spells and get a minimum build order down, it just rages me soCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAW Indeed, I wonder why people would do this. Are they too stupid to realise that they'll just be a dead weight on their team, and dimish the entire team's chances of winning ,including their own, or do they just don't care, or maybe they are arrogant enough to think they'll be okay? On May 07 2010 08:39 Brees wrote: nidalee isnt good on TT, not even close Why, if I may ask? Not strong enough early game? I don't know her all that well, only played her once in a botmatch, which is of course doesn't teach one much except some basic familiarity with a champion's abilities. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Who are the top heroes for TT then? | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
on TT, all the strongest heroes are melee(bad on SR) and being a ranged carry that isnt even a hard carry is a pretty bad idea on TT, if you go into cougar you will die in 2 seconds against the main offenders(jax, mundo, warwick, shen, etc) | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Amazing: Mundo, Warwick, Shen, Udyr, Poppy, Gragas, Sion, Pantheon, Jax, Rammus, Cho'gath, Zilean, Ezreal, Janna Good: Mordekaiser, Evelynn, Shaco, Taric, Annie, Nunu, Katarina, Kayle, Nasus, Kennen, Kassadin, Soraka, Anivia, Fiddlesticks Decent: Morgana, Heimerdinger, Ryze, Nidalee, Teemo, Singed, Corki, Gangplank, Tryndamere, Blitzcrank, Playable: Malphite, Alistar, Amumu, Karthus, Sivir, Twisted Fate, Ashe Don't: Master Yi, Veigar (in retrospect, I need to split up the Good tier a little) In general, Amazing means good early damage, survivability, mobility, map control, etc. Good means not survivable enough/needs too many levels to do damage, etc. Decent means contributes something good, but has too many drawbacks. Playable means they contribute something, but not enough or not frequently enough to justify them. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On May 07 2010 13:07 Tooplark wrote: janna and ez are amazing on TT (ever fought a red pot ez at lvl 1? ever tried to lane vs janna/jax?). morgana is ok, tryndamere isn't that good. singed is playable, pirate is never good ever. katarina isn't that good, haven't really seen taric or eve too much but can't imagine them doing remotely enough damage to the top tier.If I were making a Treeline tier list it would go something like this (in no particular order): Amazing: Mundo, Warwick, Shen, Udyr, Poppy, Gragas, Sion, Pantheon, Jax, Rammus, Cho'gath, Zilean Good: Mordekaiser, Ezreal, Evelynn, Shaco, Taric, Janna, Annie, Nunu, Tryndamere, Katarina, Kayle, Nasus, Kennen, Kassadin, Soraka, Anivia, Fiddlesticks Decent: Morgana, Heimerdinger, Ryze, Nidalee, Teemo, Singed, Corki, Gangplank, Blitzcrank, Playable: Malphite, Alistar, Amumu, Karthus, Sivir, Twisted Fate, Ashe Don't: Master Yi, Veigar (in retrospect, I need to split up the Good tier a little) In general, Amazing means good early damage, survivability, mobility, map control, etc. Good means not survivable enough/needs too many levels to do damage, etc. Decent means contributes something good, but has too many drawbacks. Playable means they contribute something, but not enough or not frequently enough to justify them. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Yeah, Trynd requires too much farm. I have singed where he is just because he's fairly durable and poison damage SERIOUSLY adds up on TT. Morgana I just find too squishy. Obviously DB is great, but most of the people on Treeline don't do enough magical damage to make BS a worry and no one will stay in TS. The damage in any one of them is rather negligible until you get a lot of levels. Ult is great though. Taric and Eve because Southlight said so lol. I hate Eve, but Taric has a crazy good heal, good durability, a 2sec stun, and a -armor debuff. Why is Pirate so bad? Too reliant on a lucky crit? Too squishy? I have him as decent because of his speed, single target burst, and healing debuff. He's about as late game as it's possible to be. Oh, and he also gets a lot out of Fort elixir. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On May 07 2010 13:42 Tooplark wrote: like what is eve gonna do to a full health jax? i mean its great that she can pick off the low health champs but its basically 2v3 until people start getting low health. AP melee glass cannons are not advisable. oh and she doesn't farm too well either.Oh, right. I forgot to consider how big of a deal red pots are. Yeah, Trynd requires too much farm. I have singed where he is just because he's fairly durable and poison damage SERIOUSLY adds up on TT. Morgana I just find too squishy. Obviously DB is great, but most of the people on Treeline don't do enough magical damage to make BS a worry and no one will stay in TS. The damage in any one of them is rather negligible until you get a lot of levels. Ult is great though. Taric and Eve because Southlight said so lol. I hate Eve, but Taric has a crazy good heal, good durability, a 2sec stun, and a -armor debuff. Why is Pirate so bad? Too reliant on a lucky crit? Too squishy? I have him as decent because of his speed, single target burst, and healing debuff. He's about as late game as it's possible to be. Oh, and he also gets a lot out of Fort elixir. taric i can sort of imagine but is definitely overshadowed by the other champs. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On May 07 2010 17:57 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: for many reasons i highly doubt that.Taric's targeted stun and heals are straight-up amazing with a good team comp. It's not what he does by himself, but what he does with a team. The guys I queue with run Kayle/Taric with me as Cho for our TT matches. We absolutely rape. If that TT tourney hadn't closed two hours after it opened we would have placed, guaranteed. | ||
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Dr.Kill-Joy
United States627 Posts
On May 07 2010 08:39 Brees wrote: nidalee isnt good on TT, not even close Man your stupid... I don't even need to tell you why because of that comment. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On May 07 2010 20:22 Dr.Kill-Joy wrote: nidalee isn't good on TT...Man your stupid... I don't even need to tell you why because of that comment. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
There's no reason to use nidalee on TT. Her strength comes from her mobility and ability to juke and harass people. On SR, she's pretty much unkillable in the first 10-20 minutes because she has a huge forest to escape if she gets ganked. On TT, the map is tiny, enemies are everywhere, and it's all about teamfights right from the start. Nidalee isn't good once teamfights actually starts - she's good at cleanup and forcing teamfights in favorable positions when people chase her, none of which is very effective on TT. Oh, and her map control via her traps is also redundant in TT, since the map is small enough to just buy wards. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
on a related note, singed is excellent on TT. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
I feel like such a scrub vs. good Singed players... after over 500 games I still have no idea what I'm supposed to do to not get chased by that 600 movespeed motherfucker, flipped back onto his poison trail and do nothing more than tickle him with my attacks as I take fucktons of damage from poison. He's definitely the champion I feel least comfortable again  . | ||
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