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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
December 27 2010 16:20 GMT
#321
I didn't notice auto aim. And I only got a few sniper rounds in, but the hitboxes for the head didn't seem particularly huge.

People dying faster to bullets is better anyway. Hardcore mode with a bolt action is the best
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 16:30:03
December 27 2010 16:25 GMT
#322
On December 28 2010 01:20 Hawk wrote:
I didn't notice auto aim. And I only got a few sniper rounds in, but the hitboxes for the head didn't seem particularly huge.

People dying faster to bullets is better anyway. Hardcore mode with a bolt action is the best

I have almost only been playing recon so far with my m40. I have 800 kills so far and 40% of those are from head shots. As far as I can remember I have been trying to aim for the upper body most of the time. I guess I could have subconsciously aimed for the head, from playing too much Counter Strike in my youth, or maybe I just happen to hit the head a lot, since that's usually the only part of an opponent you see if he is hiding behind a rock or wall. It still feels a bit strange though.

Not that I have a problem with it. I don't think snipers are too strong or anything.
Rflcrx
Profile Joined October 2010
503 Posts
December 27 2010 16:39 GMT
#323
the hitboxes are slightly larger and since the game uses a strange netcode the hitboxes is displaced if your ping is too low/high (the standard setting is 65 ms if I am not mistaken, which is ofc too high for a lot of servers).
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 23:23:06
December 27 2010 23:22 GMT
#324
Thanks for all the feedback regarding tracer darts.

I'm actually amazed how the PC community is winning that race for The Battle of Hastings. Judging from what I'm seeing on the battlefield, I'm wondering where all those team actions are coming from - certainly not my games (except for my ammo/medic/spot/repairs).

The worst are medics; not only unable to drop a medkit when neccessary, but also braindead. The majority of medics will either revive me in the middle of enemy fire / mortar strike / helicopter attack / tank shelling, or will charge into the enemy lines with LMG blazing while ignoring the own team. Or they'll do both.
Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
December 28 2010 01:23 GMT
#325
On December 28 2010 00:29 Genome852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 23:21 Hydrolisko wrote:
i've never been so addicted to a game since diablo 2 lol.. this is just a ridiculously good game... i'm talking about vanilla btw haven't tried vietnam yet... the an 94 is opppppppppppp


You should have played before they nerfed the AN94's damage by 20%.

I still love it though... best looking + sounding rifle, though the iron sights are awful.


Dang it was 20% more dmg?... wtffff. I use it with the red dot on smaller maps and the 4x scope on bigger maps. I prefer it over the M16 or the M416. Awesome gun!

btw anyone here play vanilla wanna friend up?
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
December 28 2010 12:23 GMT
#326
Anyone know of any servers for both bc2 and vietnam that have a class limit?
Having 2/3rds of your team sniping is...REALLY REALLY GAY
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Rflcrx
Profile Joined October 2010
503 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 19:02:38
December 28 2010 19:01 GMT
#327
search for "ruebenhacker regiment" (have both conquest and rush), both servers have a class limit on sniper.

suchtlbude is another rush server, but sniping isn't possible at all (if you do a kill with a sniper rifle or a shotgun with sabot ammo you will get instabanned (automated)).

both are german, but english language is also spoken. oh and both are for vietnam. I do believe they also have bc2 servers, but I haven't checked/can't confirm this, but I would assume they also have the no/limit sniper script enabled
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 19:12:08
December 28 2010 19:11 GMT
#328
I don't see the point in limiting a server to a certain number of snipers or completely banning sniping. I laugh every time I join a server with "rules" like

- max X snipers
- no C4 vehicle
- no RPG infantry

etc.

Sure it sucks if the other team is sniping a lot, but it's not as if you can't adapt. Either go recon yourself, take a moment to analyze movement paths before sprinting across open terrain, or just kill them with non-sniper weapons. Most people chosing recon aren't long range sniping gods, will easily become nervous under fire and can usually be taken out with an assault weapon + scope. At least that's true for me - I suck at sniping and only choose it when neccessary (spotting, mortar, too much action going on and I need a break after multiple deaths in close quarter combat).

A server limiting the number of snipers or enforcing other rules will just kill tactical play. "Hey, we need a recon for a mortar on that tank blocking the choke point" - "Sry, recon spots are full, one is afk, the rest has C4 equipped."
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
December 28 2010 19:20 GMT
#329
On December 29 2010 04:11 Shockk wrote:
I don't see the point in limiting a server to a certain number of snipers or completely banning sniping. I laugh every time I join a server with "rules" like

- max X snipers
- no C4 vehicle
- no RPG infantry

etc.

Sure it sucks if the other team is sniping a lot, but it's not as if you can't adapt. Either go recon yourself, take a moment to analyze movement paths before sprinting across open terrain, or just kill them with non-sniper weapons. Most people chosing recon aren't long range sniping gods, will easily become nervous under fire and can usually be taken out with an assault weapon + scope. At least that's true for me - I suck at sniping and only choose it when neccessary (spotting, mortar, too much action going on and I need a break after multiple deaths in close quarter combat).

A server limiting the number of snipers or enforcing other rules will just kill tactical play. "Hey, we need a recon for a mortar on that tank blocking the choke point" - "Sry, recon spots are full, one is afk, the rest has C4 equipped."

The problem isn't the enemy team having a bunch of snipers, it's your team being full of them and doing effectively nothing. Having a team of 8 snipers a 4 total medic/assault/engineer isn't going to be taking any objectives any time soon.
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Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 19:25:02
December 28 2010 19:24 GMT
#330
On December 29 2010 04:20 Hurricane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 04:11 Shockk wrote:
I don't see the point in limiting a server to a certain number of snipers or completely banning sniping. I laugh every time I join a server with "rules" like

- max X snipers
- no C4 vehicle
- no RPG infantry

etc.

Sure it sucks if the other team is sniping a lot, but it's not as if you can't adapt. Either go recon yourself, take a moment to analyze movement paths before sprinting across open terrain, or just kill them with non-sniper weapons. Most people chosing recon aren't long range sniping gods, will easily become nervous under fire and can usually be taken out with an assault weapon + scope. At least that's true for me - I suck at sniping and only choose it when neccessary (spotting, mortar, too much action going on and I need a break after multiple deaths in close quarter combat).

A server limiting the number of snipers or enforcing other rules will just kill tactical play. "Hey, we need a recon for a mortar on that tank blocking the choke point" - "Sry, recon spots are full, one is afk, the rest has C4 equipped."

The problem isn't the enemy team having a bunch of snipers, it's your team being full of them and doing effectively nothing. Having a team of 8 snipers a 4 total medic/assault/engineer isn't going to be taking any objectives any time soon.


Ok, that certainly sucks even more. But at least your back's covered and some spotting will happen (unless they're braindead). And if they insist on being useless and just playing sitting duck, you can always change the server.

A "no-sniper-rule" won't stop bad players from being bad, they might screw up your team even more if they'd run around as assault/medic/engi.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 28 2010 19:26 GMT
#331
I always roll Recon and go CQC. Usually with a Shotgun or G3.
slith
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 20:10:55
December 28 2010 19:39 GMT
#332
On December 26 2010 17:03 Genome852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 04:53 slith wrote:
Shooting (and hitting) while strafing..

Damage is never important if you can place your hits well while dodging enemy bullets, take that advise from someone who gets banned for "cheating" often..

As in every shooter: Never stop moving.


Like I said, assuming you hit 25% more your overall DPS will remain the same as with magnum ammo, so 25% damage comes out ahead.
But it is far easier to hit while running when using accuracy bonus. That's what I tried to say, and you try not to understand I guess. For people standing and shooting at each other, your statement is correct. But if you never stand still, this will never be an issue. Combined with the low skill level you mentioned, accuracy bonus + running is, in my opinion, far better than the damage bonus, as people for some reason can't hit moving targets anymore and always hold still for taking aim (opposed to Quake or Unreal Tournament players). This is your timing window you can abuse, the time they need to switch into aiming mode and get a "lock" on you is enough to spray 2 or 3 volleys at them, eventually killing them right with the first. Your cross-hair getting smaller when taking the accuracy bonus helps out a lot too. So does the fact that their screen is getting shaken when hit. This is also possible with the damage upgrade, but I find that I perform far better with the accuracy bonus when doing this.
When using the AK-47 however, the damage upgrade is more important, as the damage output gets so insanely high it doesn't matter if half of your bullets miss. 2 Hits on the upper half of the body is usually enough, and you can get out about 5 shots before the spray really kicks in.

If fighting at extreme ranges (e.g. sniper vs assault rifle) you might be at an disadvantage, but then again you can just walk out of the line of fire and get closer.

On December 29 2010 04:26 Fruscainte wrote:
I always roll Recon and go CQC. Usually with a Shotgun or G3.

I only use G3 with Assault class, as I find myself always low on ammo when fighting with it, same goes for Shotguns. Especially the automatic ones Saiga or USAS.
The combination of single shot Shotguns with the Grach as sidegun and switching after every shotgun load fired is very fun.
When in doubt, empty your magazine.
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 20:22:57
December 28 2010 20:22 GMT
#333
If anyone would like to setup a team (with mics), I'm up for it =). I play a pretty good medic or engineer.
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ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
December 28 2010 20:34 GMT
#334
I played some squad deathmatch (?) last night. 4v4v4v4 and it's pretty awesome.
If you have a friend or two, give it a go because it's actually pretty sick, I could definitely see myself playing it a hell of a lot more
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Rflcrx
Profile Joined October 2010
503 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 20:49:06
December 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#335
I can only speak for HQ, were magnum ammo beats decreased spray everytime. I don't know where you play, but I don't have a lot of problems hitting running targets. For SQ this might be valid, idk about that, don't play SQ.

Ah, okay, you play SQ, nevermind then

/e So I see I am not the only one who spams smoke grenades when he is annoyed by teamsnipers :D in Vietnam I just run infront of them till they get spotted/shoot me (most servers have a pretty low tk limit)
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
December 28 2010 20:44 GMT
#336
Recon is a good class, the problem is and always has been sniper rifles. They encourage people to sit as far away from objectives as possible. Most people can't hit shit when they snipe in BC2, so they get maybe 8-10 kills an entire game. They are effectively dead weight. Doubly so in Rush. Unfortunately in vietnam I can't spam them with smoke grenades
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
December 28 2010 21:29 GMT
#337
I think the problem is there's a certain allure to being a sniper. Be honest, the idea of being the impossibly patient "lone wolf" is pretty awesome.

Then again, I like to go red dot or ACOG on sniper rifles. I don't hard scope, I always quick scope or try to no scope.

I usually play assault, though. My general play style works better when I'm effective at short/medium range and gave some actual firepower. That or I just CG spam. >:O
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
December 28 2010 21:46 GMT
#338
On December 29 2010 04:26 Fruscainte wrote:
I always roll Recon and go CQC. Usually with a Shotgun or G3.



If I roll Recon, I run in with an M95 and no-scope :D
Bona Fide
Profile Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
December 28 2010 21:53 GMT
#339
On December 29 2010 04:24 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 04:20 Hurricane wrote:
On December 29 2010 04:11 Shockk wrote:
I don't see the point in limiting a server to a certain number of snipers or completely banning sniping. I laugh every time I join a server with "rules" like

- max X snipers
- no C4 vehicle
- no RPG infantry

etc.

Sure it sucks if the other team is sniping a lot, but it's not as if you can't adapt. Either go recon yourself, take a moment to analyze movement paths before sprinting across open terrain, or just kill them with non-sniper weapons. Most people chosing recon aren't long range sniping gods, will easily become nervous under fire and can usually be taken out with an assault weapon + scope. At least that's true for me - I suck at sniping and only choose it when neccessary (spotting, mortar, too much action going on and I need a break after multiple deaths in close quarter combat).

A server limiting the number of snipers or enforcing other rules will just kill tactical play. "Hey, we need a recon for a mortar on that tank blocking the choke point" - "Sry, recon spots are full, one is afk, the rest has C4 equipped."

The problem isn't the enemy team having a bunch of snipers, it's your team being full of them and doing effectively nothing. Having a team of 8 snipers a 4 total medic/assault/engineer isn't going to be taking any objectives any time soon.


Ok, that certainly sucks even more. But at least your back's covered and some spotting will happen (unless they're braindead). And if they insist on being useless and just playing sitting duck, you can always change the server.

A "no-sniper-rule" won't stop bad players from being bad, they might screw up your team even more if they'd run around as assault/medic/engi.
Yeah, that's the thing. Most wookies are in fact braindead, and care only about the K/D ratio. They could be on defense, standing right next to an MCOM that is armed, and continue sniping.

-_-
Bona Fide
Profile Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
December 28 2010 21:54 GMT
#340
No offense, but it sounds like a lot of TLers are the kind of recon teammates that I rage at. Anyone here like to play primarily assault/medic, drop lots of ammo/med kits, and focus on arming/disarming MCOMs?
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